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Yes. Keep going back to them with better and better offers until one just can't say no. Don't give up and don't settle for a lesser choice.
Neither TCU or Louisville has our SEC money, our stadium, or our fanbase. Eventually one of them will crack and take the job.
Remember how Alabama didn't take a "no" from Saban.
That could get embarrassing....
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...unless it worked, of course.
I’d go full guns a blazing at Schlossnagle. He’d be more likely to leave then McDonnell. Just my opinion though.
The thing about Schoss is his personal situation. Wasn't there a rumor about infidelity. He might not be in a position to move.
I'd offer a contract for $2M/year and make them walk away. If they walk away add $200K to it until they sign.
Yall gettin' crazy now.
And that may be why he took his name out of the hat. Just a thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
If they win, it'd pay for itself many times over. I'd rather overpay for a natty than pay market rate for 2 seeds and road super regional losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I believe this is going to be the only way John Cohen saves face with MSU fans. If he doesn't hire a top tier coach he will have fans questioning him and his abilities till he retires and probably after that. He needs to throw 2.5 million if need be. What is 2.5 million on a HC when you spent 60mill plus on a stadium. Let Cohen work a few years for free since he is the one that got himself in this mess.
You can't tell me they would both turn down $3M a year to be our coach.
That's more than Moorhead. Is Howland making that? Think we getting a little crazy nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
What about $4M?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
2.5 each as co-coachesQuote:
Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)
Pretty sure Howland makes like $2.5MQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I think it's quite possible that Schloss was the guy. That's why Cohen made statements like he did. That's why their AD said no comment and that TCU would persevere. That's why Sarloos was rumored to be promoted. That's why Schloss was rumored to be contacting our recruits already (Commerce).
I think smn happened at the 11th hour to cause it to fall apart. My guess is the infidelity rumors.
This is were courting becomes staking and good guys end up in meetings with HRQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Sounds like a good reason TO move. It's not like the other woman would ride with him and his wife on the jet we sent to pick him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
LOL Why not just tell one of them we are going to pay them what Nick Saban makes and be done with it. Cohen will pay top dollar for one of his top targets, but definitely not over pay by about $1.2 million to get to your $3 million salary.
It really seems something happened with Schloss and it wasn't money if we all believe the rumors. Either we screwed up and told him to wait, we moved on for some reason, or he talked it over and decided he wanted to stay where he was.
We might never know the truth. Especially if it's John's fault.
I really don't get the panic people are letting set in. We are not going to end up with a "Pruitt" unless we have insane fans that scare off coaches by doing things like publicly smearing their character. We may not end up getting one of the top 5 head coaches from teh country to leave their current position at another power 5 school, but holy shit people. We haven't even offered a Schiano yet. Until we offer Hendo the job, or at the very least least until Tadlock and Butch publicly pull their name out of the running, step away from the ledge.
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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
Steve said on the Bone Yard yesterday that he had some more information on the Schloss situation, but he didn't want to comment until after we had a coach.
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Originally Posted by MSU338
You can take it to the bank that Cohen is not going to pay $2.5 million for a baseball head coach.
If I don't like the coach leaking out, I'm saying he was tied up in the Larry Nassar deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Not really... just making this more Tennessee like
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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
+1
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Originally Posted by dawgs
I'm glad you aren't our athletic director, and you probably would still be trying to find that $200,000 donation too.
Well then we need to stop having such ambitious expectations for our program.Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
$200K is a tiny fraction of our SEC Network check. If that makes the difference in a home run hire and a ho hum hire, its worth every penny.Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
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Originally Posted by msstate7
This is America today.
This week makes me miss football recruiting time and I despise football recruiting.
Yep, would pay for itself many times over if we get a guy in here that finally starts winning natties and hosting regionals and supers more years than not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Wasn't aware we can just buy natty's.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
These infidelity rumors are stupid. 2 reasons.
1) don't spread sh*t like that unless you know for sure. The guy has kids in high school and college. It's embarrassing to see our fans do it and it feels of sour grapes.
2) basic infidelity is no reason to not hire someone. As long as he isn't breaking the law or sleeping with coworkers or students it would be dumb as hell not to hire a coach like that for something so common
Bonus point. Why hasn't TCU fired him if it's bad enough for us not to hire him?
Stop spreading bullshit rumors like this. Every single person that has brought it up doesn't have a clue if it's true or not. It's a harmful rumor and you are spreading because you got your feelings hurt he turned us down
I'm with JohnsonQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
I hardly ever get inside info but I did on the Schloss deal. I firmly believe something 17'd up at the end based on what I was told here in Fort Worth. It was a done deal. Think about something else now too. Just think how 17'd Schloss is right now. Prolly pretty 17'd right now if you ask me.
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That is $200,000 added on to the $2,000,000 so that is $2.2 million. He also said that he would keep offering the $200,000 until it was accepted. That's pretty much why I made the donation comment. Because he would probably be still looking for the donation. Ya'll are throwing football head coaching type salaries out here. Cohen knows what is realistic on top dollar for a head baseball coach.
This is taken from the Louisville Rivals Site in June, 2016 - "Louisville gave McDonnell a 10-year extension on his existing contract and will pay him $1 million in base salary. The contract also includes several retention bonuses, including a $150,000 payment if McDonnell stays at U of L through next summer. He will receive another $150,000 bonus if he's still at U of L in 2020, and then the bonus drops to $100,000 every two years after that, beginning in 2022 and running through 2026.
Now of course he is going to probably receive a "little" extra in his pay check because he was "interested" in our job.
Even if you average 10k a game, once you start paying a baseball coach 1.5M plus, you are getting less ROI by far out of the big 3.
Steve said on the Bone Yard yesterday, that he would have some information on this after we actually have hired a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
According to this board, Louisville didn't even charge admission for baseball until this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I'm with Johnson and you also.
College sports aren't for profit business where we are looking to maximize our income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13