Belmont, foambat, whatever you want to call him is now batting .210 and is still batting cleanup. It's downright odd.
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Belmont, foambat, whatever you want to call him is now batting .210 and is still batting cleanup. It's downright odd.
Agreed.. He has homerun potential.. but just damn.. bat him 6th-8thQuote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
Just move him down. He was 0-4 tonight, so that makes him something like 3-33 since being moved to batting cleanup. Put the boy somewhere between 7-9 in the lineup.
As hoops said in the game thread, batting order isn't as important as you think. With that said, I want my best hitters getting the most bats, so Luke needs to be toward the bottom of the order. We have an old school baseball coach though, so HRs and RBIs are what he wants in a clean up hitter. Luke leads in both. I would rather have my highest ops guys 1-5... Luke is not in that group
Switch Stovall to 4th and bump Alexander down to 5th. Let Macnamee stay at 6th. Then never put Vansau in at DH and let Hatcher stay in. He's gonna take his lumps but he needs them.
Belmont is a 8th hitter for this team at best, fact is he just isn't a starting SS in the Sec except dear ole State. Batting 4th with an average below .200 has to be a first in Msu baseball history, I have seen our future SS play this year but he is only a junior in H.S. Dude has some pop in his bat as well.
NonCoach34, that you? Need some magical coffee to feel better?Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
GET THIS KID OUT OF THE 4 HOLE...
we know he is going to play, right now he is being protected by one of the if not the hottest hitter on the team Stovall and he is still roughly 3 for his last 30..
so we know he is getting pitches to hit.
Move him to 9 hole so at least he still has some protection from Mangum.. and see if an get a hit or 2
he cost us at least 4 runs last night in the field,not making plays(maybe out of position or his limited range) not making the play with 2 outs led to their 4 run inning.
He does have limited foot speed, I think Stovall would be a much better SS.
Maybe, but speed is a terrible way to judge a SS. Andrelton Simmons is the BEST defensive SS in the world, and he is probably the slowest SS in mlb. And no, I'm not comparing Alexander to Simmons.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
One thing I have noticed about Alexander this season is he has very good range to his right, and not so good range to his left. What do our coaches do? Shade him more right for some dumb reason.
Both the suspect balls last night were to his left
Range is important, his hands are ok getting the ball out of his glove, give me a kid who can go right or left, limited infielders with range create gaps and extra runs, example is when a man is on second and infielder can't get to the ball it creates runs scored.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He's just not a starting SS for Sec play. Maybe a better glove at 3rd but right now that would be a bad move. The James kid at Desoto Central is fairly tall and has shown to have good range, dude has some pop in his bat also. He's just a Junior but is committed to Msu as u probably know.
Dude he's not an sec SS. Plain and simple. It's showing everyday he plays. Not defensively and damn sure not offensively. It's a travesty to the team and sucks for the kid he keeps getting run out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
When have a fairly good hitting team. Having a drop dead out at 4 is an offense killer. It makes the perception of our lineup that we struggle on offense.
You realize this is the 3rd coach that's played him at SS here at state?Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
That doesn't make him a good shortstop.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Pair it with him playing SS in cape cod league also, and it shows he is indeed a SS thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog1
What makes you say that he's a good shortstop? Do you have stats or are you using the eye test?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah he is a SS. At Delta st maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
There are no defensive metrics for college baseball. He looks to have good range right, only decent range left, and a plus arm. His range this season is not as good as his freshman year. Going left is starting to be an issue for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog1
Now what do you support that he isn't a SS on?
Gridley was the SS until this year. Who you chose over foambat. Henderson is a damn idiot which i don't think will get any argument. This was Foambats prove it year....and he has...Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He's an average SEC defender at best. Eye test, stats, whatever the hell you want to use. He's being done wrong by henderson.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
An unbiased eye test.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Belmont was a better third baseman than SS, not sure why anyone thinks he is a Sec SS, he's not.
I agree with isid, sad we have to run the kid out there, it's not Belmont's fault.
I don't know who we have as a backup or who we got coming in next year to play SS, but lord knows we need one badly. I'm not sure who the worse ever at playing SS for Msu, but he's gotta be right there with whomever.
He obviously doesn't have the batting average for what you would want in the lineup much less at the 4 hole. I don't know why you use the dumbass nickname that Coach34 came up with. Hitting with a foam bat takes away all the pop, that is most definitely not his problem. Hell, he might benefit from not swinging so damn hard and just try to make solid contact. It is ridiculous to nickname the guy who leads the team in HRs foam bat. At least get creative with the dumb ass nicknames running our players down. At least when 34 called Dak "Checkdown Charlie", Dak did check down a lot. We later found out it was a lot to do with playing with broken ribs that no one knew about but still he did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
After saying all of that, some guys don't have a good mind set for hitting 4th. On my high school team, I was hitting 7th - I was not a HR hitter, more driving into gap power. We kept having a merry go round at the 4th hole. Our guy hitting 6th who had some pop was hitting really well. Coach moved him to 4th and he immediately went into a slump until he was moved back to 6th. He finally moved me to 4th and I had no problem. I figure I was the only one he put there that wasn't trying to hit a HR. The hype with "hitting clean up" sometimes gets to people kind of like starting in basketball isn't always the best for every player. Stapleton was a lot better off the bench than when he started.
He isn’t a SEC everyday SS.. that’s the bottom line.
Everyone can go back and forth all they want . It doesn’t make a shit.
Not to keep harping on this but why does “foam bat” strike so many nerves???? WhenQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Stone hands Morrow, IJ Glass, our FG kicker 2 years ago was basically getting death threats, Holloway got treated liked he was the worse player on the team, and Ado a true freshman gets called our more than he should and nobody has an issue with them. But heaven forbid this kid is given a nickname and folks go straight mommy/daddy on here... He plays every ****ing game and can barley hit above the Mendoza line.. instead of foam bat maybe it should be No bat..
Might wanna do a little research... c34 didn't come up with the "foambat" nicknameQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
It does seem like our fans are a lot more sensitive when it comes to our baseball players for some reason. I can't figure it out either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Or perhaps we?ve had a problem with all those names because we don?t understand why Mississippi State fans would be tearing down our own players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Isn't Westburg the SS in waiting?
Should be the SS playing but yesQuote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
That's fine but it still doesn't explain why it's more acceptable to do that to football and basketball players for most of our fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
What position does JT Ginn play?
Unfortunately there are no good metrics for balls that get by him that are ruled basehits that somehow every shortstop we play against could get to. He does deserve the criticism IMO. He was the level of an All American out of high school and would be considered a high four star low five star if we were talking about basketball/football rankings. He was higher ranked then Mangum and yet here we are. If he was ranked that high and was a basketball or football player, our fans would massacre him and no one would stick up for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I don't agree with doing to any of them. As a baseball player, it would suck to be ridiculed by your fan base, and have to pay to play at the same timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He could play shortstop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog1
Ginn is not going to turn down 1.5 mil.
I don't go to other team's message boards, does every fan base tear down their own like our fans do? I understand saying the guy shouldn't be batting at all much less clean up. I don't understand the dumb as 17 nick names.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Because the ones who come up with these stupid nicknames, do it for their own fun, but it is nothing against our student athletes, which justifies it.***