Bo Bounds Thinks MSU Wins 7 Games This year

Yup. That?s what Bo, inferiority complex Bounds just said.

He is piggy backing off Bartoo saying that we will win 6 games because we play 5 top 15 recruiters in 40+ days and because we lost Mullen.

Bartoo compared the best MSU roster of our life times to Arkansas? roster. Yes. He actually said that.

He also said that MSU?s 8+ win projection in the FPI was too high because MSU lost Mullen. Yet, is A&M?s less because they lost Sumlin? Arkansas because they lost Bert? How about others?

Here is what?s funny, Bo Bounds has MSU winning 7 games, LSU winning 6/7 games, OM winning 6 games, and Arkansas winning about 5 or 6 games. In Bo?s opinion, I guess the SEC West isn?t playing a full schedule this year since nobody is winning more than 6 or 7 games.

Again, this is the best roster in 20+ years and Bo Bounds is saying we?ll 7 games. That is absolutely ludicrous and lazy.

This is one thing that sucks about Mississippi. While media from Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, etc are finding reasons why their teams will win big, Mississippi media are digging for reasons why we will lose. And the we wonder why we get picked last in the SEC West every year. If in-state media won’t stand up and be honest about the team, why would anyone else?

The inferiority complex, pump the brakes people from Mississippi are too much for me. They literally hold the state back in numerous ways.

Why listen?

Bartoo was also shocked that we were a favorite over Kentucky last year. Anyone that predicts state to win 7 games this year is an idiot, or is just looking to generate some sort of attention.

What an idiot.

Howard Stern was great this morning. Who is this Bo Bounds you speak of***

To add: Bartoo and Bo are talking about tough our schedule is.

I love our schedule. Yes some tough games but rarely two road games in a row or tough games in back to back weeks. We have a chance this year to be up for every losable game.

Heck this years team is better than last years team and we actually have a head coach that will coach a full season and not quit Halfway through. Smh.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why listen?

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It’s a good show. Bo is just easily manipulated and changes his opinion in order to be seen as smart by others.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

It’s a good show. Bo is just easily manipulated and changes his opinion in order to be seen as smart by others.

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Sounds great**

Good. I hope he picks us to not win any by the time the season starts

What’s funny is Jake Wimerbly and ESPN FPI, has us as damn near a playoff contender and Bo thinks we’ll win 7 games. What a *****

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Bartoo was also shocked that we were a favorite over Kentucky last year. Anyone that predicts state to win 7 games this year is an idiot, or is just looking to generate some sort of attention.

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Or just thinks morehead and staff will be a trainwreck. I would think even if Morehead is not a good coach (or if it just takes a season to get the team adjusted to his offense), we should win seven games just from our defense.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Or just thinks morehead and staff will be a trainwreck. I would think even if Morehead is not a good coach (or if it just takes a season to get the team adjusted to his offense), we should win seven games just from our defense.

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I think C34 could lead MSU to 7 wins this year.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

To add: Bartoo and Bo are talking about tough our schedule is.

I love our schedule. Yes some tough games but rarely two road games in a row or tough games in back to back weeks. We have a chance this year to be up for every losable game.

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Hell, don't we have 7 home games? Tough or not home field advantage is huge in the SEC.

And every time I listen to Bartoo it sounds like he snorted a line of coke before going on.

The only way we win only 7 games is if we lose Fitz, both RBs, half the WRs and our starting DL.

If State only wins seven this Fall, Moorhead is a flat failure. I could literally, not being a coach, sit Fitz and Simmons down and tell one tondirect the offense, the other the defense with zero coaching and we’d still win six games. That’s how deep this team is.

Bo got another one....just avoid his show. He's shock factor fool.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why listen?

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Exactly, show is crap.

Bo can't get enough of Bartoo. You can nit-pick at all the numbers if you want, but all that matters is we return nearly every major contributor from last year's team, including one of, if not the best D-line in the league. Idc who's coaching, if you can only muster 7 wins with the talent we have on this roster, you are a failure.

I'd be curious to know how many wins Bartoo predicted us to have last year.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Bo can't get enough of Bartoo. You can nit-pick at all the numbers if you want, but all that matters is we return nearly every major contributor from last year's team, including one of, if not the best D-line in the league. Idc who's coaching, if you can only muster 7 wins with the talent we have on this roster, you are a failure.

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This

It's funny when Bo makes a ridiculous prediction & he talks with that arrogant, smug voice in which he attempts to make himself sound smarter than the average fan. That's when you know he doesn't really believe what he is saying.

This team returns most every contributor to an 8 win team that should've won in 9 2017.

This team beat no one last year that it was not favored against = no fluke wins.

This team beat Louisville in a bowl game without a coaching staff. We've already seen MSU play without Mullen & they beat a Heisman winner

Bartoo lives and dies by his matrix. If he says we win 8, he’s saying his matrix is shit.....guess what? His matrix is shit

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

If he says we win 8, he’s saying his matrix is shit.....guess what? His matrix is shit

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Bartoo lives and dies by his matrix. If he says we win 8, he?s saying his matrix is shit.....guess what? His matrix is shit

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Well stated. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Another thing: We are about to find out how good Mullen really was.

Was MSU's success above recruiting rankings due to Mullen or Mississippi high school players not being properly rated?

If Mississippi HS kids were properly rated by the recruiting services, what would the matrix say then?

Again, remember, Sweat & Fitzgerald were 3 star recruits.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

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This guy, and that gif.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Or just thinks morehead and staff will be a trainwreck. I would think even if Morehead is not a good coach (or if it just takes a season to get the team adjusted to his offense), we should win seven games just from our defense.

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Who is Morehead?

I'll say this... if we win only 7 games then Moorhead better be sent packing. I think we go 10-2 at worse. I'm calling 11-1.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Well stated. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Another thing: We are about to find out how good Mullen really was.

Was MSU's success above recruiting rankings due to Mullen or Mississippi high school players not being properly rated?

If Mississippi HS kids were properly rated by the recruiting services, what would the matrix say then?

Again, remember, Sweat & Fitzgerald were 3 star recruits.

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We are about to find out how good Mullen is. If you look at the teams by recruiting alone, it's probably conceivable that you could pick us to win 7 games. Are the recruiting rankings that far off, is Mullen that good of developer, or is Mullen that good of a coach. One of those is true. Everyone just assumes Mullen isn't a good coach and we have amazing talent and that Morhead will just come in and dominate. This could very well be the case, but it we won't really know until this year.

I will bet anyone 25k we win more than 7 games. The only way we win only 7 is if Fitz and keys both break their ankles in the 1st game.

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

We are about to find out how good Mullen is. If you look at the teams by recruiting alone, it's probably conceivable that you could pick us to win 7 games. Are the recruiting rankings that far off, is Mullen that good of developer, or is Mullen that good of a coach. One of those is true. Everyone just assumes Mullen isn't a good coach and we have amazing talent and that Morhead will just come in and dominate. This could very well be the case, but it we won't really know until this year.

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Agree.

Mullen's success at MSU was labeled as "Mullen wins at in-spite of MSU"

If Moorhead wins at MSU, it should be labeled as "Moorhead wins & MSU is a good job"

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Bartoo lives and dies by his matrix. If he says we win 8, he’s saying his matrix is shit.....guess what? His matrix is shit

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Rep Given!

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Well stated. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Another thing: We are about to find out how good Mullen really was. -
Was MSU's success above recruiting rankings due to Mullen or Mississippi high school players not being properly rated?

If Mississippi HS kids were properly rated by the recruiting services, what would the matrix say then?

Again, remember, Sweat & Fitzgerald were 3 star recruits.

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Mullen is an above average coach who is very good at evaluating talent and developing talent. Mullen took advantage of MS players not being properly ranked, but I think also had disdain for the recruiting process and baggage that comes with 5* divas based on his UF experience. That translated to us missing on high 4 and 5 star players and never fully realizing our potential because we were always a player like AJ Brown (or a player like Josh Robinson riding the pine) away. You can get away with that in MS at a program like MSU. He will not be able to follow that same philosophy at UF. It will be interesting watching that progress.

Where JoeMo seems to be so far - a very good coach (who may be great) who is very good at evaluating talent and developing talent (or else Fordham doesn't win and PSU doesn't advance), who is not afraid of what 4 & 5* recruiting brings with it and expects his coaches to be able to handle it or ship a kid out (see Bryant as an example). It will also be interesting to watch this develop.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Bartoo lives and dies by his matrix. If he says we win 8, he’s saying his matrix is shit.....guess what? His matrix is shit

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He doesn't say we win 8. He says winning 8 would be overachieving. That's some high level horse shit. I know Bo Bounds reads this board and I wish he would come on here and make a bet and set the terms regarding state winning 7 games. We will see if he has more money than sense.

Moorhead is basically Dan Mullen without the massive douche factor. He is installing a version of the RPO similar to Mullen's but better. We have a very capable group of asst. coaches. We have talent literally sitting on the bench waiting to play. Yet we will win only 7 games. I cannot wrap my head around that level of thinking.

Bartoo called Chad Morris the worst hire in the SEC yet has Arky winning one less game than us. He called Moorhead an inspired hire that proves MSU wants to take another step forward in the West, yet we will only win 7 games. His shit just doesn't make sense half the time.

Just like Bill Connelly or Phil Steele, you have to take Dave Bartoo with a grain of salt. Yes, he's pumping his own version of 'advanced stats' but they are all flawed in some way. None of it hits above Vegas, which is obviously still not a very good bet. Perhaps if you get all 3 to agree on something, you might have a pretty good bet

None of them seem like they played football at all, ie they don't realize how important the trenches are, which is where we're most experienced

Statistics are simply a starting point, in any situation. For example, Steele will say we have a bunch of starters returning. Bartoo will say we have an unproven coach, Connelly will say our recruiting ranking will keep us from being elite. All have flaws, but you also have to prove the other direction, ie are our starters good? Do we have better players than our ranking? Will Moorhead be as good as Mullen? etc

Once we beat the crap out of LSU, AGAIN!, his and other's narrative will change.

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Originally Posted by IMissJack

Once we beat the crap out of LSU, AGAIN!, his and other's narrative will change.

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Sure, but these guys overthink things.

Bo believed in this team a couple of months ago, but the further away we get from last season, the more the media forgets their eye test & instead regresses back to using traditional model numbers that tell them what they "should" believe.

It's why the SEC predictions are basically the same every year regardless of the feeling you got directly following the previous season.

Here's a tip:

Rank the SEC teams for the following season within a month after the previous season, & don't change them unless new, substantial information emerges.

At the end of 2017, MSU passed the eye test as a top tier SEC team & they return everybody. If you forget that, you are doing your predictions a disservice.

This same phenomenon happens in the NFL draft, at the end of the CFB season, you know who the best players are, but then that changes after workouts & other things leading up to the NFL draft.

It's blinding

We will win 7 or more in our first 9 games. Anybody who thinks Florida is gonna leave DWS with a victory this fall has lost their damn minds. That place is going to be more electric than anything anyone has ever seen.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

We will win 7 or more in our first 9 games. Anybody who thinks Florida is gonna leave DWS with a victory this fall has lost their damn minds. That place is going to be more electric than anything anyone has ever seen.

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Yep. Dan better bring 3 pairs of shorts.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

We will win 7 or more in our first 9 games. Anybody who thinks Florida is gonna leave DWS with a victory this fall has lost their damn minds. That place is going to be more electric than anything anyone has ever seen.

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I'll go so far as to say we will be rolling into T-Town for a 1 v 2 match up of 9-0 teams. We might even be the #1 in that match up.
Schlabach on ESPN has us #20 right now. We will have beaten his Way too Early #23 LSU (on the road), #14 Auburn, UF (who will be ranked when we play them), a rebuilding A&M, K State and Kentucky on the road, and 3 cupcakes. Bama will have faced teams rebuilding (Lousiville, OM, A&M, Arky, MO and Tenn), cupcakes (Arky St., UL-L) and LSU

Seven wins? In that case I would like to place a very public, very real, bet with Mr Bounds for $10K. I will take the over. PM me, Bo.