Hearing from incredibly reliable sources that Butch Thompson will be departing Auburn for Mississippi State at seasons end.
No idea if he is legit or anything
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Hearing from incredibly reliable sources that Butch Thompson will be departing Auburn for Mississippi State at seasons end.
No idea if he is legit or anything
No way. Joe maddon more likely leaving cubs for us
How is Butch on the recruiting front and who would he bring in as far as a hitting coach? He has Auburn doing well this year and he certainly seems to improved them. I would kind of be disappointed unless he makes a lot of noise this year before taking the job.
Other than current roster, there isn't anything Auburn has that's better than us in baseball. We have a better stadium, better tradition, more money to offer, more resources to offer. And if in fact Butch decided to come back as HC, it should speak volumes about his confidence in John Cohen as our AD considering he worked for the man for multiple years.
I'm calling BS. I'd be pissed if we've hired Butch this quickly in the process. I like the dude and would prefer him to Mingione, but I see both of them as the "if all else fails" candidates. We shouldn't have to give either of them a call. Plus, guys who are reputable like Kendall Rogers are saying we're targeting McDonnell and Schlossnagle. I just don't see us falling that far down our list to Butch so soon.
Rogers and the other big guy (Fitt) just said a day or two ago they would be surprised if we got either of those 2 guysQuote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
I thought we had Bobby Cox locked up***
It's been over a month. I have no doubt that Cohen was targeting top coaches, and they could have said no thanks already via their agents. How long do you think it should take? You never know, Butch might have reached out to us. That is, if any of this is true....Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
exactly- Cohen has been working with agents and people for a month. Your big names arent coming to Sville to interview anyway. I could easily see him having a verbal deal in place. This process wont begin when the season ends- we'll be naming a coach the second their season ends if not beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Exactly. Cohen has his crap wired tight and he has a plan in place, bank on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I'm not saying we will or won't get those guys. It's well documented how little college BB coaches move, but the flip side is that big college BB HC jobs don't come open that often, either. I'm in wait and see mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I'd be surprised if we're rushing. We've got approximately 3 months or so until the end of the current season. I'd expect Cohen to be very deliberate and methodical with so much time to find a coach. And I'd be shocked if Butch DIDN'T reach out. All accounts from those around him are that he'd love to take our job. But I don't think Cohen is looking to hire Butch. My gut says he'll hire a big name current HC or a young up-and-comer like he did with Cann. Butch doesn't meet either of those. I'd be "ok" with Butch, but I'd be highly underwhelmed if that's the direction we choose to go, especially with 4 months to find someone. We'll have our guy before the season ends, but I don't think it'll leak this early, unless it's a weather balloon to see which way the wind is blowing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
The good news for any new coach is that we're incredibly well set up right now for future recruiting. Right now PG has our 2018-2020 classes as #2, #5, and #4 nationally. If we can hold on to most of those, that's a great foundation for any new coach.
I'm fine with Butch Thompson. I think it would be a great hire.
Still seems very early to have someone locked up. What happens if Auburn collapses down the stretch? Then we hire a guy who had one winning record as a head coach and never made it past a Regional? At that point, Ming is the better candidate. Butch might have interest and Cohen in him but I doubt this is already set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Also, how much are we willing to spend on a head coach? O'Connor at UVA is making around $600k per year, didn't Canny sign for like $775k starting? That is a pretty big jump unless you really love the school and that was Canny not having any head coaching experience. If Cohen is serious then I could see spending $1 Mill on a coach unless we blew it all on the new Dude.
I didn't realize McDonnell is the highest paid coach in the country so we would have to really throw some money to even get him to the table to discuss it.
Cohen knows Butch inside-out. His record this season would have zero effect on if he was hired or notQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Not saying Butch won't be the guy but I can almost guarantee we haven't offered the job to him yet.
Butch pulling a Jeremy Pruitt? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
As I've said before, he's a much better hire than most folks think. But this one tweet doesn't have me convinced that a deal is in place.
This guy may be correct, but it just doesn't sound like something that Cohen would do at this point in time in the baseball season relevant to a coaching search. Cohen would have more respect for another university's baseball program too. Kendall Rogers hasn't mentioned this, and I would imagine his sources would be better than Next Level Baseball (never even heard of them until now). Butch is still hired by Auburn to win games. How would something like this effect their players, etc.?
I'm not saying I believe this guy or not- I'm talking hypothetically but here is what COULD be happening:Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
1. Cohen and Butch talked privately- Cohen tells Butch he wants him to be the guy- Butch agrees to it and they will announce after the season
2. Being a good guy- Butch tells his AD privately that he will be leaving after the season to return to State so the AD wont be blindsided
3. Auburn AD has made a call or two to some agents saying he is checking around "in case" Butch leaves for StarkVegas
4. Somebody putting 2 and 2 together as to who could be State's next HC
OR:
This tweeter doesnt know shit and is just throwing something out there that he heard from somebody else that doesnt know shit
Possibly, I just don't think Cohen would have offered Butch the job yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
That being said, I think Butch would be a solid, high floor, limited ceiling hire. Possibly like a Dan Mullen for the baseball program.
What Butch does bring though is extremely positive:
- Butch is a good recruiter & evaluator
- He's extremely mature & an adult. He's stable & would bring stability to the program.
- Butch loves MSU & MSU is where he wants to be. We would not have to worry about Butch ever leaving for another job. MSU is his dream job
There is definitely an urgency to get a quality hire on board. My wife talked to the Dad of a recruit in Baton Rouge who has offers from State, Tulane, USM and Oklahoma. His Dad said that they have eliminated State due to the dumpster fire the program has become....we need to get this mess straightened out quick or this is going to look like the Rick Ray years...Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
This^. Butch is probably the guy if we miss on everybody. Butch isn't in a hurry to leave AU and we aren't in a hurry to hire him. But, he'd come if we pushed him and needed him to be the coach. Say what you want, State is his dream spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
doesn't make sense to me this early in the season. if true, and the AU AD thinks it's true, they fire Butch immediately.
Yeah, they're going to fire their HC midseason in a year in which they're 20-5 and just outside the top 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
no they wouldn't. They just wouldn't. And I, like most am almost positive there is no deal yet. He's in the hunt thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
Eh, pretty poor decision making process to eliminate your best offer before they hire a new coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
We simply can't straighten out the mess until after the season unless we hire a guy who currently is not coaching. Surely, intelligent people realize that
Didn't take long for Rogers to shoot down that Butch rumor.
I think most would be happy with Butch, at this point any coach not named McDonnell or Schlossnagle is going to have to hit the ground running to make up for the perceived disappointment of not getting a "Tier A" hire. IMO I wouldn't be surprised if Cohen doesn't value Butch as a "Tier A" hire.
Exactly. This is why you're not seeing a mass exodus of our recruits. I've talked to several and Cohen is keeping them in the loop and they understand we are going to make a great hire and he will. Just gotta be patient right now and trust Cohen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Honestly I was surprised to hear that our program is being perceived that way.....but it was straight from the horses mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I’d be good with Butch. He’s the “safe” hire and someone Cohen trusts. He’s done wonders with a very shitty shitty Auburn program. Imo, he’s done a better job with that program then Pearl has done with their basketball program. Both of those programs are equally shit historically in the SEC.
When your coach is fired for cause for what he was fired for dumpster fire does come to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
.....when you are 13-13, 1-5 SEC what do you call that?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
I would be pissed too considering the list put out on 247. BT would be one of my last choices from that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
Did they have any on there other than the names being thrown around here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
No big time coach is going to seriously consider an unofficial offer with 3 months to go to the CWS finale. If we settled on butch in March before giving bigger, better names a chance to turn us down after the season, then Cohen ****ed it up. Shit, I would question butch?s professionalism if he?s unofficially accepting a new gig with 2 months left in the regular season and 3 months left before the natty.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Butch will be there if everyone else falls through. You don’t go with your fall back plan 2 months before the end of the regular season and 3 months before the end of the CWS.
According to this thread, HCs don’t move around anyway, so whoever we hire wouldn’t be looking around.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Man. I just read Thompson's bio. I want this guy.
you needed to read his bio to know who he was???? wth????Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13