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I am anxious to see how Moorhead handles these issues.
My guess we will see new DL names crop up immediately.
Well, look at the list of past flips.
He is signing up for failure
We gonna be just fine. Our dl is deep and I?m confident JoMo gonna find someone else.
I thought he decommitted on signing day by not signing the LOI.
After losing Williams and Lovett, gotta wonder if Baker keeps his job?
Shouldn’t have been very difficult to beat out OM in this one when all they can sell is FR playing time for a team that is ineligible.
Can’t lose easy recruiting battles like this one.
I make it a point never to get worked up either way about recruiting. They ain’t ours till they are signed and on campus. Y’all need to remember that. Also, you don’t have a real clue as to what they will do on an NCAA field till you see them a few times. Ask me in 3-4 years how we did this year.
Trust me , I would like to have the guy but in the end of the day a 3-Star guy that can’t see what has been done at MSU....Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, Pernell McPhee, Denico Autrey, and SEVERAL others in the NFL right now.....dude just doesn’t get it. So it ain’t worth the drama. No ONE player can be bigger than the program, it’s as simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
We have 13 dl on roster right now and a couple more coming. These guys just might look at depth chart and realize they got a tough road to hoe.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Agree. And I hope our fans don’t buy the “paying time” narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Yep. Right perspectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Yeah, I mean I’m not sure what was done, but we had plenty of warning. Not a good sign for our future recruiting efforts if we couldn’t lock this one up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
We just let OM flip 2 DL when they have nothing but bullshit to sell.
In the 2019 the depth chart clears. If paying time was the issue, the kid just chose his freshman year over the rest of his career. Again, not a good sign for the new staff. They better learn quick how this worksQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Guy is scared to compete, wants it handed to him. Farewell....You clearly aren’t MSU material.
I?m willing to give joe more than 5 weeks before I go saying he can?t recruit. And yeah most of these guys expect to play as freshman that?s the way it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
All I want is Joe to fire back and flip at least one of their recruits either this year or next. If they want to play this game, I just ask that we do too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
That is what will ultimately stop it.
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
So you have the whole story do you? Chill out Francis.
I'm pretty sure Johnson and Woodson can fill him in. As can Hud. That's the good thing about hiring Ole Miss guys. They know how the system works and where the bodies are buried.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
That's the thing, though...who of their recruits do we really want on our team? I honestly can't think of oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yep exactly. I?m good friends with a coach here in south Mississippi. There?s a recruit on his team that signed with unm. He told me this kid wouldn?t even start at usm but unm is taking him cause they don?t have much to pick from and they?re not dropping him cause they need every recruit. He said unm was the only real offer he had after the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by chainedup_Dawg
Hey Shotgun....calm down brother....breath....let this play out. These Drama Queens don?t usually work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
We are going to recruit just fine.....calm down....
This was in the works before this staff even got hired. So just calm down brother....Serenity NOW!!!
Absolutely good point. And I should have quantified a recruit that we actually want. That's part of the reason why I said this year or next.Quote:
Originally Posted by chainedup_Dawg
I'll say this too- the important thing is that we are keeping Devon Robinson. He is massively underrated. Playing in the Team USA International Bowl along with Jalen Mayden. His ranking of 83 is hilarious. Geor'quarious Spivey I think will end up at DE and he's another guy I like a lot too. Crumedy is a four star guy that might play DE but I'm not sure yet.
Devon Robinson is incredibly underrated. He has the potential to be a big time player and Crumedy is really good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Call me psycho. Some of these High Schoolers think they should be starters their freshmen year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Their attitude SHOULD be that they will compete for a starting job. Emphasis on the word should. Of course it doesn't help that they have these recruiters telling them how awesome they are and then they end up having to have the redshirt talk at the end of fall practice. Then Ole Miss has to pay to keep them on campus. That kind of happened with Tobias Singleton.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
He's going to be the next "where did MSU find that guy" guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I'll say this- there aren't many guys in our class that I have questions about right now. Honestly probably for the first time in awhile.
Agreed. Really solid group so far with some real difference makers and joe may pull a surprise or 2 before nsdQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Williams went cheap. Real cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Kinda of tired of the calm down mafia. Everyone has their own way of reacting.Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsofAnarchy
Lovett couldn?t make it without his buddy and he doesn?t want to have to earn a spot. Screw him. This was in the works for awhile anyway.
Yep. And they had this planned to happen after our bowl game and most especially now that we wonQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I’m just tired of playing defense in recruiting.
I’m with Todd, even if it’s just for show, we need to start flipping theirs once a year as well. Seems ridiculous that this only happens to one side of this rivalry.
Kid didn’t want to compete so screw him.
Well, they probably didn't plan on us winning our bowl game and were probably going to wait until NSD. Our boys just caused the process to occur more quickly by winning the Gator Bowl. They can't stand it when we're happy. That's one reason why they went completely apeshit in the Egg Bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I'll guess they try to do some hat ceremony- because he just de-committed. He hasn't technically flipped yet. They'll try to save that for NSD or something like that I bet. If I'm Joe I might just pull his offer and beat them to the punch.
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I?ve got a feeling that Joe gonna handle recruiting differently than the country club did. This man comes from a steel workers family. Y?all ever met any of those folks? They are some of the hardest working non bs people in the world. I just got a feeling joe ain?t gonna let the bears run roughshod over our recruits. Let him get his feet on the ground and I think we?ll see it.
OMs #1 play in recruiting is to sign one guy to sign the other guy. That’s what this latest decommitment is. I was a kid once too. I can totally understand wanting to go to school with friends. Best of luck to him.
JoMo.... I imagine he is going to learn a lot about how dirty the sec is in first go around in recruiting.
Why would we do it for show? Your unbelievable?! These are kids man, kids! You'd swear Ole Miss took your family hostage and raped them for 30 years in chains with your mindset. It's a football game that your not getting paid for. I'm sure you don't have a son or a daughter but imagine if a coach thought like you towards your child? I'm pretty sure the kid wants to play. If Ole Miss is his chance to play let him go, who cares? He isn't Kemdeche. It's not a coache's responsibility to screw over a kid for the sake of fan entertainment.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Let them have Lovett. Baker is a phenomenal coach and was by far the best position coach on the previous staff. Our DL was straight dominant this year.
Why would we suffer getting rid of him because OM flipped 2 DL, one of which is probably going juco and the other wants to play early and we definitely don’t have that available?
There are others out there that are talented and Moorhead will find them. You guys have to realize we are dealing with teenagers. It should tell you something about the kid if they would rather play at OM than MSU right now.
So this kid waiting till new year (after 12am) to announce this? This screams of OM choreography. Forget this kid... hope he starts next season opposite Greg Eiland
Lovett has the talent to make the NFL, even at Ole Miss. This is a loss. Just have to hope we can somehow find a quality replacement.
I hope it doesn't take Moorhead as long to figure out recruiting in the SEC west as it did Dan. This place is as different from the Big 10, as the north is from the south. I don't think Moorhead is the flipping kind either.
Lovett didn’t even dominate at the all star game. We’ve got two guys next year in Pickering and Moore that are both better.
And if Lovett is letting friends dictate decisions in life, he’s a follower not a leader.