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Poised to get the nations #6 RB and #124 overall. Unbelievable. Thought recruiting would surely be dead over there for a while before these sanctions came out. They get a slap on the wrist on then the #4 QB flips to them. If MSU was in the boat TSUN was in then we would've been absolutely hammered.
I?ve gotten to the point of just not caring about them anymore. If the past few years has shown us anything is that after their recruiting hauls they are still going to finish 5-7, 6-6, 7-5. NO MATTER WHAT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
We play them once a year just like the other SEC West teams. I look at them as just another Arkansas. Actually worse.
They are still going to sign some top recruits. One or two guys don't mean shit if you don't have anyone else to go with them. Every p 5 schools get four stars. Once those WR are gone ole miss will have nothing. I suspect Luke will be fired with in two seasons.
Good for them
One top 250 recruit is not killing it by any stretch. When they sign 5 or 6 guys in the top 100, call me and we'll have this discussion. Until then, they're gonna get a nice player or two (or even 3 or 4) but the old days are gone and they know it.
If you?re referring to ealy unm ain?t getting him. He?ll be taking the millions from mlb. He will never see the campus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
If your talking about the Alabama RB, I see 90% of his crystal balls to LSU
What makes you think they are poised for anything?
I assume you are talking about the rb from Alabama. What is going on with that guy? He is highly rated and has taken no official visits. He only has set up 1 to om the end of January. Overwhelming CBs to lsu, but none lately and 2 now to OM (yancy and a Memphis tiger guy). Is this kid a major grade risk or something? Makes no sense he is so highly rated and pretty much nothing on him latelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
Impossible. Those were devastating sanctions....DEVASTATING!!
Because Yancy CB'd them* smh. Which he does to anybody who even mentions Ole Miss in a sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I wonder if he is a non-qualifierQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Gotta be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Probably. If he truly is a non-qualifier, it would be so om to sign him anyway while on scholarship restrictions bc he is a 4*Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Bc LSU isn't sure they'll have room for him. Auburn & Bama have passed so far. TN & FL are sniffing around so right now OM is the leader bc of availability. His teammate Johnathan Hess is committed to OM also.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
How is a 94 rated RB in such low demand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Their QB recruit got dropped by Fla and nobody in the Pac-12 wanted him. They got him because he has issues- as they do alot of their recruitsQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
They doing what they have too right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They can’t get talent + makeup in a player right now, so they are just taking anyone with talent in an effort to build momentum before anyone figures out the catch. And the catch is that they are on pace to put together Team Leavenworth
And let's face it they never stopped the network....they are in full force and now they are emboldened because there are no consequences to all out cheating.
Bc most people think he's going to outgrow RB & become a H-Back/TE type.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Ah. Gotcha. Amazing he is 94 rated thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
He is 6’3” 220 now. Derrick Henry is 6’3” 240, so Joiner looks to be about the same in the future.
Hard to have quick feet and a low center of gravity at that size. Not sure a big, lumbering RB really fits OM’s offense
Backup qb*****Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Maybe he wants to start day 1?
(Just a guess...)
Exactly, they are probably the most corrupt recruiting school in the nation who stuck their middle finger in the faces of the NCAA during the entire 3 year investigation while continuing to cheat during the entire process. And even with all of that the pathetic NCAA COI only gave them little more than a slap on the wrist with OM having every intention of appealing the 2nd year bowl ban (only truly stinging thing they got). So right now they are very much emboldened to go back in Network strong with little worry of consequences and recruits see that accepting benefits has little potential downside. Its also obvious that OM will not be crippled in the way we thought they would be long term. So with all of that together we will have our hands full recruiting against them with the 2019 class. I think Moorhead will end up being a very good recruiter for us but for right now, Matt Luke is the HC with the longer standing relationship with MS HS coaches. Even with the 2018 class, if OM had gotten the penalties we thought they would get then Williams would not have flipped and Lovett would not be mulling things over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezsoil
Just a follow up
Joiner does have some grade concerns but the feeling is he will end up qualifying.
Since when has grades been an issue for Ole Miss?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
They did learn one thing from Freezus and his Network. The Heppin Bidness will always be open, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
None of in-state schools or LSU have room for him. That's the story. He also runs like a 4.8. Even if they did have room it would be at linebacker. Case of being overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
And all of that is coming from ole miss sources.
All of that being said, I think LSU makes room for him in the end and he jumps on that. I believe I heard O say they had a "secret commit" at RB. I think it's him.
Sounds like Ole Miss recruiting during Orgeron's first year.
I'm sure that was the plan all along - but how do you get new recruits to consider thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Our fans have to put it out there on social media like their fans did when they said Dan was leaving for somewhere else 9 years in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
I realize it?s just rankings but it bothers me that guys like this are ranked over Marcus Murphy, Whop, Heath, etc. it just lacks sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Covercorner2
All evaluators miss and put bad grades on guys but it appears as though the recruiting sites forget to fix them when more information is known.
Comparing this guy to Derrick freaking Henry is like comparing Elijah Staley to Cam Newton.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Just watched his video.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5049
Agree he's not Henry, but he is a good athlete that has a profile problem.
Not fast enough with a low enough center of gravity to be a legit SEC RB. Remember Henry had breakaway speed
Not long enough to an outside LB like KJ Wright, Gerri Green
Maybe he can be a TE like Engram or something.
Not sure.
who give's a rip who they sign
MSU fans really need to stop worrying about this. The Ole Miss Media will always skew perception to their advantage. Anyone want to know why the 2019 class is so hyped? Easy, because Ole Miss has the inside track on a lot of the players due to existing factors. I mean look around, they've somehow convinced people that they are doing alright in recruiting this year. Look at the actual class.....we have WIPED THE FLOOR instate. I personally believe that most classes in Mississippi are similar in overall talent, so why aren't we celebrating what WE have ACTUALLY done, rather than what they make it SEEM like they have done?
Whoever wins instate usually wins the battle. What Ole Miss did under Hugh Freeze with the out-of-staters is the exception, not the rule.
I would be really surprised if grades were an issue... unless, of course, he was "on scholarship" at Mtn. Brook, too....
I live in the Birmingham area and know guys involved with the Mountain brook program. Apparently, Joiner is extremely soft for a guy his size. There's a reason AU and bama are passing on a guy with his size and athleticism. Wouldn't be too worried if he ends up at ole miss
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Originally Posted by msudawglb