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I was looking at the 24/7 recruiting page today, and started wondering about 2019, after looking at who we already have in the boat 2 4* guys and the amazing talent in Mississippi it seems if we can own the state we may be looking at a top 10 maybe even top 5 class. By the way Georgia already has 7 4 and 5* Any thoughts?
I'm sure we'll get our share, but Ole Miss will be a real threat because their bowl ban will be gone, they'll be selling playing time, and the network will be back in operation. They are already touting that #mississippimade stuff. I am expecting to see them gain a good many early commitments.
We really need to have a good year and beat them in Oxford. If we do that, with an exciting offense, recruiting will take care of itself. We will also be able to sell playing time IMO, we can point to the big number of seniors and say the team is wide open. And we see every year, while we have a good foundation throughout the year, anything can happen in December/January.
We won’t dominate the state.
We’ll get our fair share but will have to go out of state to fill in some gaps.
I think a top 15-20 class can be realistic but we simply lack the network power to sniff the top 10
Ole Miss back in business very shortly. In time, I think it may even get worse than before.
We'll get some, OM will get some...and we will finish around 20th in recruiting as usualQuote:
Originally Posted by JETDAWG
They had a player admit on TV that the coaches paid him and they got a slap on the wrist. I don't see why they just don't give out university credit cards and expense it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Hopefully we can grab some blue chippers from those states, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
One of those 4* commits is going to flip. OM has inroads with a lot of the ‘19 class. We’ll get a few, but they’ll get more.
Why? Because Demetric Warren changed his CB prediction? Black has a very pro-MSU coaching staff around and there are a lot of pro-MSU boosters in that area. It'll work itself out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don't consider Ealy that big of a loss. The last 4* kid from prep didn't really blow anyone away at OM. And they had another (Nik Hogan) that transferred to Northwest two years ago who was very unimpressive for a early 4* candidate.
I think we are going to get waxed in recruiting for 2019. If the instate talent really is that good, it will be an opportunity for Ole Miss to take a calculated risk. If they go big, they can basically erase the negative impacts from the NCAA investigation. I think that's going to be too tempting for them to resist and I don't think we're going to have the appetite to step up and compete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Ealy is the real deal, but he will more than likely never step foot on a college campus.
IMO this was the plan of the NCAA. To bait them bastards into doing it again. (At least that is what I like to think as to why they got off so easy)Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Good gracious at the weak sauce in this thread. We are a pessimistic fan base.
I think it is way too early to predict who wins the state in recruiting. Moorhead could blow up or implode. Luke could take an nfl HC job... ok, that will not happen. Luke could also raise his stock or even be fired. Saban could come and take all the state blue chips for all we know right now.
I don't see this happening at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
OM will get some of the guys, but there are simply too many eyes on them to go all in & plus they don't have Freeze anymore.
I think we'll get our fair share & they will get some as well. I think with the states around us being loaded as well, I think we can have close to a #15 type class.
I don't buy the whole OM doom & gloom recruiting situation. While they may pull a few tricks, they have to be tentative right now due to fear of being outed & repeat violator.
Plus, Luke is certainly well antiquated with the network, but I don't think he's a bold or aggressive as Freeze. He'll get some guys but it won't be ridiculous.
Lastly, even when OM was cheating their ass off, they never dominated MS. Most of their most ridiculous cheating was done out of state. MSU will compete for in-state guys. Remember, we already have the best 2019 MS player committed & Black. Add Pickering to that & we are well on our way to have a great in-state haul
We need to have a recruiting target where roughly our class is a 50/50 in state/out of state... focusing on the states of Georgia, Alabama and Louisiana for the out of state players...
Shoot Alabama and LA have all the additional players we need. GA, everyone is there. I would go for MS players first if talent is equal, then hit AL LA hard for the others.
We actually have some guys that will recruit on the new staff. I think we sign 9 4*s, 5 high3*s and 11 mid 3* and below.
Exactly. MS is first obviously, then the surrounding states (we all know AR and TN don't produce as much as AL and LA though). You can get 80%+ of your players right there. After that, go wherever you want to get a few more. Add in JUCO supplements and you're set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
yep MLB is going to offer too much moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by jacksondawg
The State of Georgia has double the amount of 4-5 stars than Alabama/Louisiana combined in 2019 and 5 times as many asQuote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
Mississippi.
They also have 5 times more schools recruiting the state. Some of you will never let that sink in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Yep foregone conclusion. He?s already decided he?s taking mlb money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
2.5-4 milQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
He would be a fool to turn that down. Get the mlb team to pay for college education after baseball and it is a no-brainer
Ealy is taking the mlb money. Kid ran a 6.4 60 this summer. Scouts love the speed and athleticism, question is if he?ll ever hit enough.
Did he really have to think about it? Seems like a no-brainerQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
That’s the question with all of them. No sure things in baseball. Hopefully he is a better hitter than Joe Gray though, who can’t hit his way out of a wet paper sackQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yeah I know that but some project as hitters and some don?t. He?s one that doesn?t. I?ve known joe gray since he was 5 and coached him when he was younger and no he?s not a great hitter and probably never will be. I?ve coached a few over the last 20 years who can rake though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
There are many more OM boosters in that area than MSU. I was born and raised there. Graduated with his parents. But it's all for naught. Trust me when I tell you, he will not come anywhere close to qualifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
My only question is if he goes in the top 30 or the sandwich pick round. Either way....he gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
It just depends on how he does this summer. He comes from a baseball family too- which to me it seems like a lot of those types of players choose baseball over other sports.
Yep. That's why Louisiana is our best out of state option. Only one SEC school to compete with that can't take all of the talent and misses some of the top talent from time to time. It's within driving distance and there are a few big cities and a major city in the state to recruit from.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5049
I would say Memphis but it's dirty as hell in terms of recruiting there.
Geez he?s not big on the school thing huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
Really good baseball family. Know them from tournaments over the years. Yeah hes top 30 going into spring/summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Tennessee is supposed to have a great class this year for the first time in ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5049
I was hoping that w the county Club boys gone that we might see some difference as far as recruiting rankings go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
With the whole staff getting after it....that?s my hope anyway.
ETA. Not that recruiting rankings are that important. Just hoping that maybe this staff can get those extra 2-3 kids each year that are difference makers. Start doing that and 3-5 years down the road the roster dynamics have changed a lot.
When OM was cheating their ass off, they decided to spend a shit ton of money outside of Mississippi. They could have spent that money inside Mississippi, and in 2019, they probably will.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I'm not saying they're going to make a clean sweep or anything. Even if it was completely disorganized, I think there have always been at least a few top in-state recruits where we have had somebody looking out for us and I doubt that changes in 2019. But barring a complete culture change at either MSU or UM between now and signing day 2019 (which I think is unlikely), you are likely going to see one school be much more aggressive than the other, and I would be surprised if that doesn't show up in the results on signing day.
Pretty sure they did try to spend big money in MS when they were cheating their ass off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Yep, this is a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg