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Also, made 2 veiled comments about the Dan/UT fit
He's a "great coach at an average program"
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Also, made 2 veiled comments about the Dan/UT fit
He's a "great coach at an average program"
Then I switched to another channel
17 finebaum.
Let's get him fired
Hey he called us an average program. We are moving up in his eyes then*******
Finebaum and chizik must be lovers.
Both of them can kiss my butt!
I don?t watch that jerk.
All that matters is what Dan Mullen thinks/says. If we ever want to move up as a program, Mullen (or other coaches like him) have to be willing to stay and build said program. If they aren't, what else can you do, at least in the short term? I hope Mullen wants to stay, I really do. But post-2015 is still pretty fresh on my mind.
Same way if we ever want to shut up the talking the heads who says we can't be more than an 8 win program. We are going to have to win more than 8 games for multiple years in a row to prove it.
The octopod has made it a personal affair to snub us. I'm about ready to hire an old man to whip his ass.
Interesting, the Confederate Bear Sharks are singing that same tune. I guess he got his orders.
The funniest thing I've ever seen in my life was when Saban verbally slapped the taste out of Finebaum's mouth during an interview a couple years back over something Paul had said off air about a couple of Bama players. Watching Paul refuse to make eye contact was priceless. We know who pays your bills, ya little whore.
Tennessee is a better job than Mississippi State, but IMO it's not a good enough job for Mullen to leave with what he has coming back in 2018, with Keytaon on campus, & the 2019 Mississippi class.
The truth is that Mullen has a blank check to be at MSU for as long as he wants to be here. He has the formula figured out & we'll never fire him. He can coach at MSU for 20+ years.
At Tennessee, he has to win over the next 3-5 years or he'll be gone. With what MSU has & can offer Mullen, Tennessee just isn't worth it.
Mullen will leave MSU if he believes the job he is taking can get him consistently in the national championship race & Tennessee doesn't offer that. When run correctly, Tennessee is a 9-10 win program. Well, Mullen basically has MSU at an 8 win program & sometimes 9. So he is going to leave MSU for 1 extra win a year & Bama still on his schedule? LOL. That makes no sense. I think Tennessee would have a much greater chance of landing Mullen if they got rid of the 3rd Sat in Oct game.
Now, if Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Bama, UGA, Florida, LSU, Michigan, USC, Notre Dame (for more reasons than football), or Florida State comes after Mullen, then I'll be worried, because those schools offer him enough upside to leave MSU.
Again, TN is a better program than MSU, but not to the extent that would make Mullen leaving his blank check at MSU worth it.
I just can’t see a way Mullen goes to Tennessee. I’ll bet my little VCash on it.
Yep and that?s exactly what he is, bought and paid for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pollodawg
No it is not a better program. Just stop with the need to always try to be o smartest guy in room. MSU is top half of SEC, Tennessee is bottom 5 of SECQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I agree on PSU, Flarda, and MEEEEchigan
I believe Dan is extremely intelligent. If he were to take that train wreck in Knoxville I would have to re evaluate how smart I believe he is.
Chiz gets sloppy 2nds after Freeze gets first shot
TN is not a better program than MSU now and hasn't been for several years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
You are correct, Sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Why the __________ would you want to deal with the TN Fans and rocky top.. There is not much money at TN... Ole paullll stirring the pot AGAIN....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Mullen would have to change the way he recruits if he went to Tennessee because the raw talent in their backyard isn't nearly what it is here. If he were to go to Tenn and stick with the "no promises, work hard to earn your spot" pitch, he would not be successful and would be fired within 4-5 years. He's a smart guy and I think he knows that. If he ever does leave, I doubt it will be for somewhere other than an elite program that recruits itself.
It's a bigger stadium and a bigger fanbase - does not equate to better. How many great coaches turned them down as they have selected Kiffin, Dooley and Butch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
He'd still have to play Bama every year.
Maybe not in wins, but in potential and money, they are way ahead. That said, I don't see Mullen leaving to take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I have heard Dan personally say 10 or so years is the time to make a move because you usually wear out your welcome, ie Richt.
However Dan is still very welcome. I've also heard him say he doesn't see himself coaching too far into his 50's.
If he leaves, it will have to be for the perfect job in his mind for him and his family. I just don't see Tennessee being it
Tennessee WAS a top tier program. 3 bad hires has ended that. Look at the changes in the college landscape since Fat Phil was fired in 2008 - too much competition in their backyard that wasn?t there before. Yeah, they have a big stadium - but for a ?top tier? program, they are 56-52 since Dan Mullen became our HC. It?s a step down and a rebuild.
Dan ain't leaving. At TN you gotta beat Bama every once in a while and now maybe Ga too. He'll never beat Saban and would not beat Smart very often either.
Tn is like the Landfish, history is long gone where as Msu with DM is making history.
Also, not sure the Sec likes what Paul wishes for. Coaches have left Sec schools for another but it's more of a rarity.
You hold your nuts so hard on Dan Mullen and the miss state football team, they have to be the size of BBs.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
If the Hogs run off Big BB, they will make a run at Malzahn for sure, and he would be likely to take itQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Whatever dude. Dan would be a fool to leave MSU for TN. Much higher pressure and expectations there.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
A football head coach in the SEC hasn't been poached from another SEC school since 1999. Stop with the bullshit already. Tired of the insecurities.
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I think their are several pro/cons for either school...
Pros of UT:
1. Bigger fanbase and support, facilities, more resources, $, etc....
2. (all things equal) Better recruiting classes.
3. (for the time being) Easier scheduling due to the SECE sucking hind teat.
4. Slightly more exposure (but this is probably negligible with SECN).
Cons of UT:
1. Completely batshit nuts fans with unrealistic expectations for the current status of the program.
That being said, if Dan is smarter than he is arrogant, and if he has a good year this year (it's looking like he will), he'll use UT's interest to get a better compensation package, stay at MSU and not have to deal with that trainwreck...
JMO
Bulldawg28 said LSU and Bama. I don?t see it, but half way there. There was extreme criticism for picking both wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Fair assessment all the way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Dan isn't even on UT's top 6 wish list and that's not cause they don't want him it's cause they don't really think they can get him so they aren't spending anytime attempting to. Rumor is they already have their guy which means it isn't Mullen. Stop falling for the Finebaum troll.
Yep. Historically, TN is a better program, but not today.Quote:
Originally Posted by justwin
I'd say so. He left one out tho. If Dan has to play Saban every year why would he go to a place where it is a requirement to sometimes do that in order to keep your job. He can stay at MSU forever and never beat Saban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Correct. It isn?t a better program but it does have more resourcesQuote:
Originally Posted by justwin
Why would the SEC allow their mouthpiece to create a coach controversy on the league network. Stop this shit commissioner.
Coach Mullen is probably not very high up on UT's list, right now...
Those cats are gonna swing for the fences on this next hire... They are gonna want to throw enough money at a "well known" head coach that has experience at programs they consider "bigtime"....
Some of the names floating around (in no particular order - sit down for this):
Gruden
Kelly
Kiffin (yes, Lane Kiffin)
Stoops (Bob)
Norvell
Mullin