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BYU - Win / They suck and we should easily win (4-2)
UK - Win / Just because we're at home (5-2)
@ aTm - Loss / They're improving and we don't play well there (5-3)
UMass - Win (6-3)
Bama - LOSS (6-4)
@Upig - Loss (6-5) I could go either way on this one and they aren't good but we're horrible on the road
TCUN - Win (7-5) But we will struggle to keep Patterson under 400 yards passing
8-4
8-4. Could go 9-3
8-4
8-4.
Lose to Bama and someone else.
At least 8-4 possibly 9-3 with wins against BYU, UK, A&M (fools gold), UMass, Ole Miss. Game that’s a toss up to me is Arkansas. Win that one and we are 9-3.
I seriously don't see us winning an SEC road game this year
I'm gonna be optimistic and say 9-3. We have to commit to running the football. I don't want us throwing more than 15 passes a game. Our run game is actually producing.
7-5. I'm confused by what evidence people see giving them confidence to say 8 or 9 wins.
Why does everyone keep talking about what our record will be?
The goal is to play for championships & keep demanding the level of play be at a growing level that will allow you to do that.
I am seriously sick & tired of "What will our record be" posts.
Discuss some football. Discuss how this team can get better, call people out, etc. Threads like this happen about 12 times a week & are completely useless.
I mean, are you guys so unbelievably excited about what bowl game we will go to that you care about whether we win 7 or 8 games? or even 9?
Who gives a shit. It's about winning championship or moving in that direction. Regardless of whether we win 7, 8, 9 games, the last 2 weeks have absolutely proven to me that we are in no way, shape, or form moving any closer towards winning a championship.
I get where you are coming from and like the attitude but if you cant be happy with 8-4, 9-3 and beating OM this year then you aint gonna be happy this year my friendQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
That we are better or as good than the rest of the teams we play other than Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outside Dawg
7-5. Should only lose 1 of Kentucky/Arkansas/A&M/OM, could lose none. We'll lose two. Hope one of them isn't OM.
9-3
Only because everyone else sucks.
It's not that I wouldn't be excited about or encouraged by an 8 or 9 win season, but it's a useless conversation because that's not a goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I would much rather discuss how can become competitive with the last 2 teams we have played. That is what matters because that is what determines whether or not you compete for championships.
Again, I don't accept MSU's football history & think it relegates the program.
Just please stop having meaningless, ridiculous threads that argue about whether we'll win 7,8, or 9 games. It's dumb.
Nobody knows.
80 points given up on the road. What makes people think we will win A&M and ARK?
7-5, one better than I thought going in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Ok I'll take you up on this -Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
After coming off a 6-7 season, to progress toward competing for a title, this should be seen as a growing season. We need the OL to gel without Rankin since everyone else will be back next year. We need to see major improvement in our pass defense. We need our receivers to somehow learn to catch. We need our coaches to see what has been done by UGa and AU's secondary (blanket coverage) and OL (holding on every play) and figure out how we implement it. Those things, along with landing out top WR and OL targets can help us with the next step.
BC they aint UGA and AuburnQuote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
This is the way I'm leaning and had predicted at first of year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
With our secondary Hurts and Shea Shea might set NCAA records for passing yards.
Neither of those two teams are close to as good as Auburn or Georgia. A&M and Arkansas have huge fatal flaws and have shitty run defenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
I?m good with that, but we beat TAM... so 8-4 for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
I had to think about it some. 5 - 7.
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
But they have decent offenses with pretty good WRs. Our secondary play is about as atrocious as stepping on a 3 day-old piece of road kill....Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
So you got it lol. I was seeing if State7 would jump all over it, but he must be distracted. I started to put it at 4 - 8. Maybe that would've woke him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Our DL should eat them alive though. Our biggest issue with our secondary is that our DL didn’t get any pressure on the QB the last two weeks and it exposed our secondary. No secondary could withstand having to cover for 4-5 seconds a pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
Coming into tonight, Auburn had given up the third most sacks in division 1. So the D-line should've dominated tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Seems to me we blitzed a lot more vs LSU. Last 2 games not so much I don't believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outside Dawg
That have an outlier game. They're not as bad as that stat indicates. I don't think you can truly judge an o-line based solely on sacks though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outside Dawg
Hear, hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I'll play- get a new o-line coach. Give Gonzalez one more year since Guidry and Heath will be coming in and I'm curious to see what Couch gives us going forward. We need to manage our roster better to make sure we don't have all slot WR's and a year where we have one high school o-line recruit. That's unacceptable at this point.
Again- it's time for our fans to stop being satisfied with just winning the Egg Bowl and Liberty Bowl.
That said- I think we go 9-3.
Clemson had 11 of their 16 sacks given up. That’s an outlier stat if there ever was one. That was also on Stidham as he held on to the ball 7-8 seconds instead of 2.9 seconds over the last few games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outside Dawg
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The goal is to play for championships & keep demanding the level of play be at a growing level that will allow you to do that.
Then here is your solution. Give MSU 18 million per year. It's that simple.
Auburn also changed the OL line upQuote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
The point remains that we could win against A&M, and certainly OM, but there is no on field evidence by msu that our d-line should have their way against those offenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
I honestly don't think that would help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach
How does 18 mil, unless given directly to a player, help us recruit a player that has a Bama offer?
So you've now gone from "We're gonna win the West next year and maybe this year" to "someone needs to pony up 18 million a year to improve our coaching"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach
Those seem like polar opposites of each other ***
Again, if we lose to Arkansas, we aren't turd bowl worthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
7-5 with a good chance for 8-4, but some things are gonna have to go our way.
As Dan has proven, alot can be done with recruits. I believe we were ranked #1 with an average star of 2.8. Now hold that thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
1- MSU as been a stepping stone under Mullen some what. Why? Can't pay enough, not prestigious enough.
2- If you can pay better money on coaches, then the product on the field becomes better because the coaches are better.
We hire better position coaches and those players get better, then recruits take notice and we begin to snag some better recruits.
Either we pay what they pay, or expect low years and high years and live with it.