Things I would change

1. We need to play Kylin Hill more. We need to use some two back sets with Aeris and him and let them be a two running back tandem.

2. We need to throw the ball to Jordan Thomas more.

3. We might be better off moving Jenkins back to guard and starting Moon at center and then letting Daryl Williams play the other guard spot. Not 100% sure on that, but I definitely would look at it.

4. Peters should start at CB over Cleveland. I realize that Cleveland is a leader- but Peters makes plays on the field.

5. Willie Gay needs to play more as well. Not saying he should start but he needs to be getting more reps.

That's probably the best we can do with what we have to work with right now.

1) I think and have thought Nick Gibson is our best rusher. Maybe he doesn't pass block tho. Don't know.

2) Agree with this.

3) Not sure.

4) Don't know why anyone has ever thought Cleveland is an SEC corner. He ain't. He just isn't good at all IMO and never has been.

5) Probably so.

Hill is slowly playing more and more.

I actually trust Mullen with Gibson. On Dawgs Talk last week, you could almost hear the frustration in Mullen's voice when talking about Gibson. He mentioned, " could get someone seriously hurt"

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

1. We need to play Kylin Hill more. We need to use some two back sets with Aeris and him and let them be a two running back tandem.

2. We need to throw the ball to Jordan Thomas more.

3. We might be better off moving Jenkins back to guard and starting Moon at center and then letting Daryl Williams play the other guard spot. Not 100% sure on that, but I definitely would look at it.

4. Peters should start at CB over Cleveland. I realize that Cleveland is a leader- but Peters makes plays on the field.

5. Willie Gay needs to play more as well. Not saying he should start but he needs to be getting more reps.

That's probably the best we can do with what we have to work with right now.

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Oh more of the Peters love. He's our 5th corner we out on the field. That should tell you something. I wish he was a star, but he's not.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Oh more of the Peters love. He's our 5th corner we out on the field. That should tell you something. I wish he was a star, but he's not.

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Yeah. He makes plays when he actually does. Sorry he stole your girlfriend or whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTUG_xeBjsE

That was better than anything Cleveland has done in his entire career. Last night he made some nice tackles in the field as well.

Hill brings a gear that the others do not have. He brings elite speed with physicality. We didn't block worth a shit last night, but Williams didn't look the part. He looked like a backup. He looked slow and lethargic. Agree with Thomas. He has to be more involved in the passing game. We took a Mike Tyson uppercut on the first play from Georgia and had rubber legs the rest of the night. It shook us mentally. I'm hoping for a more cohesive offensive performance against Auburn. Fitzgerald has to be asked to run more. We ran power with Fitz on the first play vs LSU and we had two blockers ahead of him sledgehammering defenders. That set the tone. We threw a slow flare to Williams to the right last night that got blown up. That set the tone. We sucked on first down last night.

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Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog

Hill brings a gear that the others do not have. He bring elite speed with physicality. We didn't block worth a shit last night, but Williams didn't look the part. He looked like a backup. He looked slow and lethargic. Agree with Thomas. He has to be more involved in the passing game. We took a Mike Tyson uppercut on the first play from Georgia and had rubber legs the rest of the night. It shook us mentally. I'm hoping for a more cohesive offensive performance against Auburn. Fitzgerald has to be asked to run more. We ran power with Fitz on the first play vs LSU and we had two blockers ahead of him sledgehammering defenders. That set the tone. We threw a slow flare to Williams to the right last night that got blown up. That set the tone. We sucked on first down last night.

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I think Hill is a special player or is going to be. You're absolutely 100% right- I haven't seen that kind of attitude from a MSU RB since AD or maybe Ballard. And I'm fine with Aeris playing a lot- in general he is productive. I think over the course of their careers Hill will ultimately prove to be better.

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Yeah. He makes plays when he actually does. Sorry he stole your girlfriend or whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTUG_xeBjsE

That was better than anything Cleveland has done in his entire career. Last night he made some nice tackles in the field as well.

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You show the one play he's made in 2.5 years. Congrats. As I said, there's a reason we keep sending him out there 5th in the rotation. A good reason. And to add, of the guys we play in front of him one is a fr and one is a soph. Which totally blow holes in your we only the older guys. Try again.

1. Fire Hevesy
2. Fire Gonzales
3. Hire coaches to replace them that can recruit and coach on SEC Level.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You show the one play he's made in 2.5 years. Congrats. As I said, there's a reason we keep sending him out there 5th in the rotation. A good reason. And to add, of the guys we play in front of him one is a fr and one is a soph. Which totally blow holes in your we only the older guys. Try again.

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Durr and Cleveland are seniors. Dantzler is very good and he should start as well. Peters plays more than Rayford. You don't know what you are talking about.

Show me Cleveland and Durr's highlight video.


Edit to add- Peters has as many INT's and fumble recoveries as Durr and Cleveland COMBINED. In less playing time. That blows holes in your biased one play in 2.5 years comment.

Wanna know why Peters can't ever seem to start? He can't grasp a playbook. There's a reason Lanquist begged Buckley to take because he couldn't grasp what safeties are doing. Cleveland plays because he's one of the better perimeter tacklers on the team. As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Wanna know why Peters can't ever seem to start? He can't grasp a playbook. There's a reason Lanquist begged Buckley to take because he couldn't grasp what safeties are doing. Cleveland plays because he's one of the better perimeter tacklers on the team. As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

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And the fact that Georgia attacked Cleveland all night says you know even less.

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Wanna know why Peters can't ever seem to start? He can't grasp a playbook. There's a reason Lanquist begged Buckley to take because he couldn't grasp what safeties are doing. Cleveland plays because he's one of the better perimeter tacklers on the team. As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

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He should be good at it. He's had a lot of in game practice having to tackle WRs because of how many completions he gives up.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And the fact that Georgia attacked Cleveland all night says you know even less.

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Actually Georgia was targeting the safety most of the time. Only big play I remember on Clevelands side was the first one and he was suppose to have safety help Deep middle.

Not only can Cleveland not cover any SEC receiver on any team anywhere ... he's a very average at best tackler.

[QUOTE=Todd4State;809072]Durr and Cleveland are seniors. Dantzler is very good and he should start as well. Peters plays more than Rayford. You don't know what you are talking about.

Show me Cleveland and Durr's highlight video.

I said 2 of the ones who play more that hit the field before him, dantzler and rayford, are below him in class. I know what I'm talking about. But thanks. Again, there's a reason Cleveland plays before him. Our entire defensive staff thinks he's better. Just a fact. But I can't tell you shit anyway. Don't know why I try. You know ****ing everything. Literally. You dads brother or who the **** ever played for the baseball cardinals and it makes you an expert on everything, in every sport. Amazing..... In your mind anyway. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Durr and Cleveland are seniors. Dantzler is very good and he should start as well. Peters plays more than Rayford. You don't know what you are talking about.

Show me Cleveland and Durr's highlight video.

I said 2 of the ones who play more that hit the field before him, dantzler and rayford, are below him in class. I know what I'm talking about. But thanks. Again, there's a reason Cleveland plays before him. Our entire defensive staff thinks he's better. Just a fact. But I can't tell you shit anyway. Don't know why I try. You know ****ing everything. Literally. You dads brother or who the **** ever played for the baseball cardinals and it makes you an expert on everything, in every sport. Amazing..... In your mind anyway. Congrats.

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Kiss my ass. You act like you know more than anyone else on here- so you trying to call me or anyone else out on that is rich. And then when someone backs up what they say you come back with some vague bullshit- "I really know what I'm talking about"- that doesn't prove your point at all or the person wrong.

Oh- by the way Peters and Dantzler have more tackles this year than the guys that you and the coaches think are better.

Thanks for backing up your point with stats and video though. Good discussion as usual.**

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

1. We need to play Kylin Hill more. We need to use some two back sets with Aeris and him and let them be a two running back tandem.

2. We need to throw the ball to Jordan Thomas more.

3. We might be better off moving Jenkins back to guard and starting Moon at center and then letting Daryl Williams play the other guard spot. Not 100% sure on that, but I definitely would look at it.

4. Peters should start at CB over Cleveland. I realize that Cleveland is a leader- but Peters makes plays on the field.

5. Willie Gay needs to play more as well. Not saying he should start but he needs to be getting more reps.

That's probably the best we can do with what we have to work with right now.

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1) Agree along with Gibson. Williams is sloooww and picks holes the same with little burst.

2) Absolutely, a TE is a Qb' s best friend especially in the middle of the field and 3rd down
3) Meh
4) Agreed, he's a glaring weakness on the defense
5) Meh, LB doesn't seem to be a problem right now. He played a decent amount of snaps last night.

6) I'll add one. Spencer should start over Sweat. He's making plays

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

1. Fire Hevesy
2. Fire Gonzales
3. Hire coaches to replace them that can recruit and coach on SEC Level.

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Ditto but I'll give Gonzo a pass if he signs Guidry, Heath and Whop.

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Kiss my ass. You act like you know more than anyone else on here- so you trying to call me or anyone else out on that is rich. And then when someone backs up what they say you come back with some vague bullshit- "I really know what I'm talking about"- that doesn't prove your point at all or the person wrong.

Oh- by the way Peters and Dantzler have more tackles this year than the guys that you and the coaches think are better.

Thanks for backing up your point with stats and video though. Good discussion as usual.**

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Kiss my ass? Welll that's educational. Thanks for caring. But when you give band lessons I'll be glad to give you credit for knowing how to play an instrument better and marching, assuming you marched!
ETA, I don't know more that everyone on here. However, I damn sure don't claim to know more than the head coach and the staff. Which you continue to do, in pretty much every sport. But when your sporting experience is from the grandstands, stands to reason. I guess. But, I will say I know more than you. Which ain't saying much.

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Kiss my ass? Welll that's educational. Thanks for caring. But when you give band lessons I'll be glad to give you credit for knowing how to play an instrument better and marching, assuming you marched!

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And by being in the band it just means I spent more time on the field than you.

If you want something "educational" here you go- always blindly going along with the coaches and their decisions makes you just as wrong as they are when they are wrong. You might want to take heed of that- especially when the stats, the eye test, and video evidence prove you wrong. And when the only thing you have to back up your point is band smack- you pretty much have nothing left to stand on.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

1) Agree along with Gibson. Williams is sloooww and picks holes the same with little burst.

2) Absolutely, a TE is a Qb' s best friend especially in the middle of the field and 3rd down
3) Meh
4) Agreed, he's a glaring weakness on the defense
5) Meh, LB doesn't seem to be a problem right now. He played a decent amount of snaps last night.

6) I'll add one. Spencer should start over Sweat. He's making plays

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I definitely agree about Spencer being a great player- although I think Sweat is good too. Had Spencer not graduated a year early he would have been a guy that was heavily recruited.

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Ditto but I'll give Gonzo a pass if he signs Guidry, Heath and Whop.

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That's where I stand on Gonzalez. I'm OK if our staff makes mistakes and recruiting mistakes from time to time- but if they do I want to see them fix it going forward and Gonzo has done that. Hevesy? Not so much.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I definitely agree about Spencer being a great player- although I think Sweat is good too. Had Spencer not graduated a year early he would have been a guy that was heavily recruited.

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I'm not saying Sweat isn't legit. He's not making the plays Spencer is. IMO, the guy producing in games should play the most.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You show the one play he's made in 2.5 years. Congrats. As I said, there's a reason we keep sending him out there 5th in the rotation. A good reason. And to add, of the guys we play in front of him one is a fr and one is a soph. Which totally blow holes in your we only the older guys. Try again.

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Peters does make plays. He may have issues I'm not aware of as far being in wrong spot or not understanding coverages, but he makes more plays than durr or Cleveland.