According to the article by "College Sports Only," Raekwon accidentally shot himself in the parking lot across the street.
http://collegesportsonly.com/college...-shot-leg.html
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According to the article by "College Sports Only," Raekwon accidentally shot himself in the parking lot across the street.
http://collegesportsonly.com/college...-shot-leg.html
So if that's the case... He Gone!!!
Not a chance. Dude starts for Bama. He could have shot somebody else and he'd be playing this Saturday vs FSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
Did he have a permit for the gun. Plaxico got railroaded, but no permit could mean real trouble.
Hopefully we'll get him for the o-line after he ends up at EMCC.
I am no lawyer and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night. However, I do believe that the laws in New York are just a bit different than down here.
Won't miss a snap
Think that was a state issue, not a federal issue though. Could be wrong. I've been wrong, once.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
So he tried to shoot his gun in the air and shot himself? That is just dumb.
I also have been wrong (more than once to boot), but I think that was actually a city law problem, not a state law problem (splitting hairs). NYC basically makes the possession of guns at all (or magazines) illegal. There was an interesting article from Reason a few weeks back on this issue that was interesting--passengers who were simply traveling to NYC without knowledge of the gun laws were getting arrested. I think I saw that one lady got arrested for just the possession of a magazine in her purse, no gun at all. I think the general state laws are much more relaxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by louisvilledawg
If there's any issue here with Davis, I don't think it's possession. Alabama allows open carry, but requires a permit for concealed carry. If you shoot yourself, but no one saw how you were carrying, I don't think they would try to ding you for concealed carry. He could maybe get cited for discharging the weapon in public, though.
(again, I'm wrong far more often than I'm right, though)
What is concealed carry vs open carry?
How much of the gun has to be hidden before it's considered concealed carry? Half of it? If you can put it on a string and hang it from your car mirror, half the gun will be concealed from someone's view. Tough one to argue unless there is a specific definition of concealed vs open carry.
I'm pretty sure he's got to be 21 to be legally in possession of a pistol in any way, but he does start for Bama...
Not trying to completely derail this thread into a discussion of gun laws, so if you're interested in the definition of concealed carry, this site has a pretty good one: https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/concealed-weapons/Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
Saban has these issues like the one in Louisianna last year. Kid doesn't miss a moment of the game unless he is winded in the middle after kicking ass.
Word on twitter is he isn't at practice today
Wrong. You can legally possess a gun once you are 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoseBrown
It's a really bad look, but legally speaking I'm not sure any laws were violated with the possible exception of disturbing the peace or public endangerment, neither of which would stick if the gun never left his trousers because any attorney could just argue it was an accidental discharge. Alabama laws are actually really lax for even requiring permits for either open or conceal carry. I don't know the specifics 100%, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the clear there even if he didn't have a permit.
As it relates to his status with the team, he SHOULD be at least suspended. No college athlete should be allowed to possess a gun period because pretty much all universities strictly prohibit them and will expell students that are found in possession of them on campus. Even if Saban has no problem at all personally with the gun possession (which I highly doubt), he basically has no choice but to enforce a very strict "no gun" policy for all his players just to make sure they stay enrolled at the university if for no other reason. Same applies to Mullen and every other coach out there.
Well he was just shot in the legQuote:
Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.
I'm gonna reserve final judgement til I get all the facts... That being said, if he did "accidentally" cap himself, he is, at the very least, a dumbass. (I don't believe in gun "accidents" for the most part)...
And HSV's post is spot on, IMO....
Did he tell the police he shot himself to start with? I was under the impression that he was shot by someone else when the story broke. If he wasn't honest about the situation to start with, couldn't there be charges coming from that?
My faddah hung me on a hook once. Once.Quote:
Originally Posted by louisvilledawg
It's my understanding that he was "uncooperative" with LE...Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Not sure if that means "I don't have anything to say." or "17 you, pig."
I'm bettin' he's toast unless there's a simple explanation for this... (which we'd likely already heard).
Thought it might have been a simple classroom accident in "Economics of Meth 101", the class he was taking right after "Modular Home vs Tradition Mobile Home Social Impact" course. Understand you Elephants have a high stress academic program.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
And all this time I thought you actually followed Bama footballQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
VERY NICEQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgowar
REP GIVEN
You can possess one but you can't buy one until you're 18
Lol good point. I thought I read it just grazed leg but who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wet Dawg
My point was, as a coach, why is my player carrying a pistol at a bar? He should be gone, or suspended indefinitely, or whatever you call it! I don't care about the laws necessarily in this case.
I don't think it happened in the Bar... I think it was across the street, in a parking lot....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
If he was actually in the Bar with a firearm, I would hope he'd get charged and expelled...
Bigger question. Why are these goofballs running around with pistols chambered, pointed at their own bodies. Dumb SOBs
Yeah I was thinking he had been in the bar before the gun shot. I guess I could assume he didn't have it on him and went to parking lot and grabbed gun out of car and it went off. I'm just saying that I'm questioning any player for having a pistol.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I'm 100 down with that.... "muzzle discipline" are* important....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasu Dackds
Playas Lives Matta...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
#secondamendment
Not saying he shot himself or even had a pistol because this hasn't been confirmed. This is just a question; 2nd amendment rights aside, which I 100% support as a conservative:
Why would a football player in a town like Tuscaloosa feel the need to have a pistol on them while out and about? Genuine question. Is there a crime problem in T-town? Does one living there feel the need to have a self defense weapon on them?
He's from Meridian.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Hahahaha that's damn true. Fair point. Rep givenQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Being from Meridian myself, I should have understood his plight before I asked. Glad to be away from there. Talk about a town with issues.
Shit, Bro.... I didn't mean to offend your hometown... I lived there for a few years and had to whip out my FO FI on a couple of occasions..Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Of course, I was "somewhere I shouldn't have been" (Midnight Sun) at a time (who knows, but waaaaay after midnight) and I was pleased just to get outta their with my two "white wimmins"....
Peace '91
Seriously 0 offense taken. Meridian has issues that need to be dealt with. It should not be a common occurrence to have to fend off panhandlers in a town that size. And that's just a small part of it. Glad to be in a much nicer town now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
well - they are only about 35 minutes from Bessemer, so there's thatQuote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
So, the bar owner says it...must be true. She is probably worried there will be legal ramifications so she made up this story: "He was shooting in the air, and shot himself (in the leg)". Okay...
No matter the story, if he is able/ok he will play. Saban will smooth over any irregularities per usual.