Where would Hev be if he wasn't the MSU OL coach?

Mullen obviously doesn't want to let Hev go. I'm still surprised Sallach is gone. Maybe it's because they've been together so long or perhaps Mullen feels Hev's OL coaching is the secret sauce to his offense. Regardless at this point Mullen must know that Hev hasn't established a dynamic resume and would likely be professionally in trouble if he lost this job. So, where do you think Hev would land of canned by Mullen.


1) Inner city HS head coach that preaches tough love and hard work.
2) OL coach at service academy or similar school like the Citadel.

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He'd be a middle school OL coach with a Summer job as a mover.

Well one of the best in the country (urban Meyer) hired hev before Mullen, so I'd guess hev would have a job

Some small college in Cali. that struggles to recruit OL.

He would be a motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river.

A cook at Waffle House.

He would probabaly be a OL coach at a Power 5 school up north. You put him in that situation where his personality doesn't class as bad and he would recruit better. It goes against the grain but the guy is a pretty decent OL coach. He does a lot with what he has. If he could up his recruiting to his position he would be much more than decent. He did basically get us Dak, I'll be forever greatful for that.

He would be ******* lawn mowing guy with a side job as Meagan's pool boy.

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Well one of the best in the country (urban Meyer) hired hev before Mullen, so I'd guess hev would have a job

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Meyer also moved him from OL coach to "tackles and TEs" coach and then moved him to just TE coach before we hired Mullen. That is why he was available.

I am not saying he cannot coach. This year will tell the tale. He has 11 reasonably talented players the are RFr or higher. It is certainly the most talented and deep OL of the Mullen era. If we screw the pooch like we did against South Alabama last year, then he is definitely not the guy. If he is that good a coach, it should not take until 6 games into the season for the OL to gel.

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Given the talent he's put in the league, Hev would have no issue grabbing another D1 job. Whole bunch of OL coaches who haven't put a Gabe in the league.

". He did basically get us Dak, I'll be forever greatful for that."

QB at MSU vs Greyshirt TE at LSU.... wasn't that hard of a sales job.

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Given the talent he's put in the league, Hev would have no issue grabbing another D1 job. Whole bunch of OL coaches who haven't put a Gabe in the league.

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If he has such a great reputation a) why has that not translated to recruiting like Dak for QBs and b) why has he not gotten any of the other jobs where he interviewed.

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

". He did basically get us Dak, I'll be forever greatful for that."

QB at MSU vs Greyshirt TE at LSU.... wasn't that hard of a sales job.

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We got him because Hev found him and we recruited in first. Watch the Dallas video.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

He would be a motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

We got him because Hev found him and we recruited in first. Watch the Dallas video.

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More like he identified Dak. Dan finished off the recruiting aspect. And considering that TCU found him too odds are good whoever had that territory would have found him also for us.

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More like he identified Dak. Dan finished off the recruiting aspect. And considering that TCU found him too odds are good whoever had that territory would have found him also for us.

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Hev knew his coach. We were on him before anyone else and that's how we got him.

Her is not a bad coach. He is one of the best at teaching technique. He is just not a very good recruiter

He would probably be Head Coach at Alabama leading them to their 41st National Championship*

He's told me he found Dak and urged Mullen to look at him based upon his football skills and leadership skills. They were actually looking at someone else when Hev recognized said skills.

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He's told me he found Dak and urged Mullen to look at him based upon his football skills and leadership skills. They were actually looking at someone else when Hev recognized said skills.

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Careful....posting anything positive about Hev goes against the narrative of he is the worst coach ever at MSU. However, I do remember the time we ran off Bruce Arians as our OC.

Hev seems like once you are his guy then he might be ok to be around but you have to get used to the guy first. Recruiting is tough if you don't make that good connection right off the bat. Mullen also values Hev's opinion in game planning so they guy is probably valuable at that also. Mullen just needs to figure out how to keep Hev from hurting recruiting (if he actually does negatively impact it).

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Hev knew his coach. We were on him before anyone else and that's how we got him.

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As I said he identified Dak. But Dan finished off his recruitment. Players are not recruited by just one person usually. You have the area recruiter and the position coach. At any rate, having a blind squirrel finding a nut moment is not a reason to keep a guy around forever. Especially when his position group is consistently under-recruited.

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Hev seems like once you are his guy then he might be ok to be around but you have to get used to the guy first. Recruiting is tough if you don't make that good connection right off the bat. Mullen also values Hev's opinion in game planning so they guy is probably valuable at that also. Mullen just needs to figure out how to keep Hev from hurting recruiting (if he actually does negatively impact it).

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Dan has done numerous things to try to work around Hevesy. The latest being to hire DJ Looney to help. The problem is in recruiting most players prefer to be close to whoever their potential position coach is going to be. And that's understandable. As long as he is the o-line coach we are going to struggle with recruiting o-linemen. The proof is in the pudding. The only two options that I see are to: 1. Make Hevesy the assistant head coach when the NCAA allows the extra assistant to be added. The problem with this of course is it basically puts us at one less on the field coach that can recruit and is still a disadvantage for us. 2. Move Hevesy to the Scott Sallach office position. He would still be on staff, could still hang out with Dan, game plan with Dan, and wouldn't have to recruit but we could replace him on the field with Looney at o-line coach, move Peterson to TE coach or add another elite recruiter, and then add an elite special teams coach to go along with Boniol in the front office as the kicking guru.

Option 2 would be preferable to me.

In short: Hev is a fine on-the-field coach. Terrible recruiter--he's a liability. Helping to find Dak is great, but if he intends to live off the good graces of something he did 6 years ago, he's sorely mistaken.

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Careful....posting anything positive about Hev goes against the narrative of he is the worst coach ever at MSU. However, I do remember the time we ran off Bruce Arians as our OC.

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Did you really compare Hevesy to Bruce Arians? And FWIW I was against firing Arians at the time and thought it was a bad move.

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Hev seems like once you are his guy then he might be ok to be around but you have to get used to the guy first. Recruiting is tough if you don't make that good connection right off the bat. Mullen also values Hev's opinion in game planning so they guy is probably valuable at that also. Mullen just needs to figure out how to keep Hev from hurting recruiting (if he actually does negatively impact it).

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Whatever his advice is against Bama, then Dan should do the opposite. We could have the best Oline in the league and they'd still watch Bama's defense run to the qb. At least it looks that way every first half we play them.

Maybe Cohen can broker a deal with Louisville, the last one seemed to work in our favor.

I could see Hev working in the Shipley kitchen over by The Lodge if Dan kicked him to the curb.

Selling used cars in downtown Charlotte.

Another vote for.... he discovered Dak. He is teflon as long as he is at State.

back to the original topic by OP:

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

Mullen obviously doesn't want to let Hev go. I'm still surprised Sallach is gone. Maybe it's because they've been together so long or perhaps Mullen feels Hev's OL coaching is the secret sauce to his offense. Regardless at this point Mullen must know that Hev hasn't established a dynamic resume and would likely be professionally in trouble if he lost this job. So, where do you think Hev would land of canned by Mullen.


1) Inner city HS head coach that preaches tough love and hard work.///
2) OL coach at service academy or similar school like the Citadel.

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Come in Dawg. He's got us Dak, Day and Fred Ross. That should buy him some respect right there.