Five star DL from Louisville. He's out for the year with an ACL, but I'm not too worried about that considering the position he plays. Top player in the state for 2019 as well.
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Five star DL from Louisville. He's out for the year with an ACL, but I'm not too worried about that considering the position he plays. Top player in the state for 2019 as well.
Kaboom!!!!!
Between him and Jones, we are starting off huge for 2019.
Gonna be a top 15 to top 10 class
Oh yea.
That's awesome! Great get! Amazing how much better our recruiting is going without the bears out there here trying to buy everyone.
Like I said in my thread a few days ago, the only thing standing between MSU & a potential playoff caliber program in the next 5 years is coaching instability.
Lock this staff up & lets take advantage of the greatest opportunity of our life times, which in turn has a chance to propel this program to sustainable high level winning, even after OM starts cheating again
Absolutely agree on this!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Fletcher Cox
Chris Jones
Jeff Simmons
Charles Moore
We just committed our next 1st rounder on the D-Block
Have fun Grantham
CLANGA!
Playoff Caliber??? Let's pump the brakes a little. We were 5-7 last year before catching a break just to go bowling. OL and WR recruiting remain problem spots as is out of state recruiting of blue chip talent. That said, a big year on the field combined with the Rebels demise could open a lot of new doors while providing us momentum this program has not enjoyed since Sherrill's first season. 9 win reg season should do the trickQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Dynamite boom
Malik Heath is a four star WR recruit and John Patterson from Pearl is extremely underrated because many think he will have to go the JUCO route first. Our issue at WR is being rectified but it won't be obvious until next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
OL- I agree. That's the only spot left to improve.
We need to be signing 3-4 M Heath's every year due to busts and attrition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think you are over thinking this.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
You arguing semantics. Put it this way, with a stable coaching staff, we have chance to build MSU into the best it's ever been over the next 5 years.
Who does that?Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
We'd be the Cowboys if we did that
We need to be balancing out our WR's better between slot WR's and outside WR's with length is actually the problem. Or was the problem. We signed too many guys that project as slot WR's and not enough guys that could either do both like Fred Ross or were true outside WR's. And even Ross probably fit better in the slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
Horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
Did you forget the 2 years before last season already? Or are you a Bear? We have the QBs lined up. WR is getting fixed already. We need OL, I will give you that.
QUOTE=biggun;789878]Playoff Caliber??? Let's pump the brakes a little. We were 5-7 last year before catching a break just to go bowling. OL and WR recruiting remain problem spots as is out of state recruiting of blue chip talent. That said, a big year on the field combined with the Rebels demise could open a lot of new doors while providing us momentum this program has not enjoyed since Sherrill's first season. 9 win reg season should do the trick[/QUOTE]
Just another reminder how bad it sucks to be an Ole Miss these days.
The LSU of Mississippi. I'm telling y'all. It's coming.
You mean we're finally gonna be their 'real rivals'?***Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I think we are evolving into a Patriots type model with smaller more agile WRs and big athletic TEs. Just my opinion but we have been stockpiling big athletic TEs and smaller WRs. I like it because no one else in the conference is really doing and big TEs can be a matchup nightmare, plus it helps the run game.
In all seriousness, with staff continuity over the next 5 years, I think it's possible for us to build a roster that's equivalent to about Auburn's roster as far as talent.
Difference is that Mullen is a better coach than Malzahn.
So, I'm not sure if Auburn's roster + Mullen makes us a playoff caliber program, but it gets us in the realm of potential candidates
I don't disagree, but the problem with that philosophy at the college level are that it requires two things that are almost impossible to come by at the college level:Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
1. A QB with elite accuracy. The small WRs have less wing span & are smaller targets. You QB has to have NFL caliber accuracy
2. Practice time. So much of what the Pats do is based on WRs reading defenses & the QB being on the same page. I'm sure we do some of this type stuff, but probably not to the complexity that they do.
To a degree, yes however, the pats run a ton of seam routes to their TEs to stretch the field and open upQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Underneath routes. One of the easiest throws to make for a qb is the seam. I'm not saying we can run the pats offense at all but a scaled down version could be extremely effective. And don't think Dan hasn't picked up
Some pointers from his relationship with Belichik.
We had a chance to get ahead of them when Brewer got popped and we screwed it up due to our own stupidity, it's imperative that we do all we can to bury these pricks this time. We are gonna going to have a four to five year window depending on the outcome of things that are not yet public. We have a real chance to get all the top kids from the state and maybe a better chance of fighting of our sec brethren that will surly try to cherry pick players from our state. It's time, we need to get it done, no infighting or other bullshat like before we have to get together and get on with it. If we can there is a chance for something very special in our near future.
It's almost impossible for us to have a top ten class. And hays not a bitch it's a fact. Heck I'm tickled w this class but it's more than likely not going to be top 20. Closer to 30 before it's over. And still in the bottom half of the league 8-10 range. But it's a really good class that I like, again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I'm not suggesting we go all in with that I'm just saying mixing this with what we already do can be extremelyQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
effective. And this is just my opinion. Dan doesn't call me for advice lol
Going forward, there is absolutely zero reason we can't be the Kansas State or Virginia Tech of the SEC, which is a team that is ALWAYS competitive, every other year competes for a spot in the top-10 or to-15.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
He's referring to the 2019 class not 2018. Have you seen the talent in ms for 2019? Our class will be much closer to 10 than 30. I'm guessing somewhere between 8-12Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Dude we will have a top 20 -25 class this year and the talent for 2019 is loaded for MS. No way it's only top 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
It all comes down to getting to Atlanta. We were able to do it almost 20 years ago due to the top defense in the nation and an excellent smash mouth running game.
Overcoming Bama is the challenge for everyone in the west.
I don't think that's what Dan is going for going forward. Couch, Todd, Heath, Osirius Mitchell, Austin Williams are all listed as 6'3" or taller. And we will be even longer if we get Whop and Stephen Guidry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I think the way to beat Alabama or at least have the best chance to beat Alabama is to throw the ball deep and hit on some of those bombs for touchdowns. Taller WR's give us a better chance to be successful at doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgcentral
I'll totally agree. This isn't the late 90's where JWS just wanted some receivers to be able to "go up and get the ball".Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
But if you can get that defense going and have the type of QB that Dan likes to develop, along with some receivers that do more than try and get up for that jump ball,..you're on the right path.
I accepted that we'll never have those road grating offensive linemen that Jackie had. He'd lay those 300 pounders on them for 3 quarters and watch the opposition wilt.
And right on queue come the "pump the brakes" negative asshole guys. If some people want to pump some sunshine and get excited we landed a five star DL guy for 2019, let them. Be happy that we got a big time recruit. Sheesh.
You can incorporate that as well but there's some reason we are signing so many TEs. We have 5 or 6 on the roster now and several more committed. We ran a lot of 2 TE sets last year. I'm not saying that our whole offense will go that route but I see us adding these concepts more and more especially with the practice reports saying Jordan Thomas is being moved all over the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We kind of already do that. I bet we've ranked in the top 15 at least 3 times in Mullen's tenure which is about every other year.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
Not sure Mullen's strategy of developing "check down QBs" is conducive to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
That strategy is great for pro development but does allow for the risk/reward plays that help you have upsets.
Read this article and look at Mullen's quote about 3/4 the way down on QBs making the average play.
http://www.espn.com/college-football...uru-dan-mullen
I think they paid recruits not to visit or commit to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
For 2018 class you're right... For 2019, like the poster said, I'm sorry, but you're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
They did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Will be interesting to see if they continue that just in spite, when they have no chance of getting a player