assistant coach or two with them on recruiting trips? And aren't recruiting trips usually day trips since coaches now have access to jets? I would find it odd if my head coach went "missing" for some time while on a trip to visit a recruit. Either the rest of the staff knew he was a horny toad or maybe those escorts weren't for him. Maybe I'm just ignorant.
Yes. A head coach has to have another coach with him for off campus visits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negative Waves
Seems to me Freeze would be so open to exposure or even blackmail that it would be impractical for him to get an escort for himself. I am sure there are plenty of "professional women" who would know who they were dealing with and could capitalize on it for a quick payday. I bet TMZ would write a $50K check for an exclusive tell all.
I'm sure he just told them that he was going alone deeper into the garden to pray.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I'm telling you right now. Those services were for recruits. If he was already calling them for himself on recruiting trips, you know that he had to have thought "wow this would be a great way to sway these guys to come to OM" It will all come out. All it is going to take is for one of these recruits to come forward
They already have! To the NCAA! The NCAA just didn't have any proof...until now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
I believe they already have and the NCAA couldn't prove it...until now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
Well ok then...That is wonderful news!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
That is an interesting concept. If they had recruits claim it in interviews but had no evidence - like phone records, photos, or a money trail - it would not have been included in the NOA or the presented evidence. Now they have records and may be able to tie calls to a recruits claim. Could the NCAA have laid (pun intended) another trap for Ole Miss??Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
At the very least, since the calls to escort services correlate with visits to recruits, the NCAA will have no other choice but to open yet another Ole Miss investigation. The endless colonoscopy.
This is in line with what everyone needs to know. There is NO WAY Freeze was going to multiple cities hooking up with multiple women because it is a 100% chance that eventually at least one of them would blackmail him or sell their story. If you are going to have indiscretions with his position, you would think that most people would develop a "trusting" relationship with one female and take care of them. Maybe even have a contract drawn up to keep it quite as we have seen many famous people do. No kiss and tell or else!Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
Bjorks and Vitters opinion on Freeze literally changed overnight.....it has to be more than Freeze enjoying the services of escorts....
I believe the calls were a setup for the "recruitapolooza". You can't arrange that overnight. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't say "Hey, we've got a big frat party and need some entertainment. What can you provide?".
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Originally Posted by Bass Chaser
Well Tiger Woods was....what was it 12 or 16.....he got away with it for yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
Absolutely!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass Chaser
Absolutely!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass Chaser
Exactly my point! Look what happened to him. I'm saying Freeze couldn't keep up the pace of a Tiger Woods. No way all that ass was for him. If Beaver was banging strange Beaver in Oxfart, no way he is hitting all of that strange on the road and putting himself in that position. I'm saying he was ignorant enough to find the local stuff and think it wouldn't come out, but I question that he was setting up escorts in multiple cities, but then again anything will not surprise me now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
I have been wrestling back and forth since last Thurs on whether the hookers were for Freeze or for recruits . There is evidence that supports both cases :
Hookers for Freeze:
- rumors around Oxford of other women
- Briarcrest stories coming to light
- Head coaches in the SEC simply do not get involved in that type of work for recruiting . Lining up girls is always handled by a booster , GA or at most a position coach . Only explanation is they were for himself
Hookers for recruits :
- twitter timeline suggest Freeze was in Oxford at time of phone call
- stories from previous recruits such as Chris Jones on how OM likes to do things
- Freeze was too much of a public figure to risk a 4mil dollar job on being caught with his pants down. He was making calls for others
But if you are a head coach for an SEC team and making close to $5mil a year, why would you personally make that call? You're telling me that some grad assistant won't do it for an extra $150 or something. That's insane and stupid. I honestly think it will come out the he is some sex addict or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailState39110
Has anybody entertained the theory that maybe someone other than Freeze used his phone and made the escort call to set up a recruit with some high dollar ass? Maybe a certain coach that's no longer with the team and if exposed would gladly squeal like a stuck pig to the NCAA.
Just a pondering.
You make that call if you are him on a burner phone. He screwed up and called on his state phone and realized what he did and hung up real quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hrdawg82
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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
I still cannot believe that he personally made a call to an escort for players. I am a Hugh hater just as everyone here, but I cannot see it. It makes zero sense. The man makes $4.7 mil a year, he isnt setting up hookers for players. If they were having a big recruiting weekend someone else would have set that up. Now it could have been paid by him but no way did he make the call to set it up. I think he resigned because now everyone knows he is a giant fraud and was unfaithful to his wife with women all over the country. This is Tiger Woods all over again.
The man who based his self worth on recruiting and the big fish he could real in. As much as his ego was tickled by his sociopathic followers you can bet your ass this narcissistic fool would do anything to keep his ego inflated. I have a harder time believing he was buying out of town strange for himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Hrdawg82
Nah - they had to know the whole time. They were forced to make a move when it became public knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Let's suppose a recruit walks into an apartment with 3 or 4 ladies of the night waiting for him. What are the chances he stopped and asked: "Are y'all hookers? Where do y'all work?"
I'm damn near 100% certain this has been reported to the NCAA. They know about the girls. But they don't know if the girls were just drunk college girls or bought and paid for. It would be next to impossible to track that down without some very hard, credible evidence from someone who was involved in arranging everything.
There was a rumor that a former employee may come forward to explain how this was being set up. There's so much stuff flying right now, it's hard to tell what's legit and what's not. Regardless, I think everyone can use their imagination to surmise what's been going on. I think the university knows what's up, the media knows what's up, and the NCAA knows what's up. That's why you had one of their fan site guys immediately come out and say "the girls weren't for recruits." They felt comfortable knowing and confirming that within a matter of hours of the Freeze news breaking? I don't think so.
The question is "can they prove it?". That seems to always be the question in Oxford. I seriously doubt it ever comes out. You'd have to compel a complicit party to come forward and admit to taking part in a massive felony. If the FBI steps in and offers immunity (real immunity, not the BS country club immunity the NCAA offers), then you may see something. Until then, it's all innuendo and speculation.