Something isnt right

After all the years of lying, covering up, and backing Freeze, they just did this way too fast. Too fast to act, too fast to admit Freeze did something bad, and too fast to let us believe it was escorts without actually saying it. Freeze too fast to let people believe it. Then, they beg people to respect his privacy. We all know there is something else there...more to come. It's rumored to be bad. Whatever it is, it must be really really bad. I just cant see another reason they act like this otherwise.

You know everyone is assuming that the escorts are females.....maybe, maybe not!

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

After all the years of lying, covering up, and backing Freeze, they just did this way too fast. Too fast to act, too fast to admit Freeze did something bad, and too fast to let us believe it was escorts without actually saying it. Freeze too fast to let people believe it. Then, they beg people to respect his privacy. We all know there is something else there...more to come. It's rumored to be bad. Whatever it is, it must be really really bad. I just cant see another reason they act like this otherwise.

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Starkvegas and I were just talking about this very thing.

Oh It's Coming isn't completely here

If somebody made those calls on a State Agency issued cell phone, then they must not have been concerned about their privacy at that point in time.

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Originally Posted by Mjoelner34

Starkvegas and I were just talking about this very thing.

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I smell a conspiracy.

It happened extremely way too fast at lightening speed. If they have any control of their situation, I don't sense they're very confident about it.

Air is thin in Oxford. Tough for the sheep to reason.

It's my understanding compliance reviews HC phone records every month. No way they didn't know and instead allowed it. Not going to help in the LOIC department.

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

After all the years of lying, covering up, and backing Freeze, they just did this way too fast. Too fast to act, too fast to admit Freeze did something bad, and too fast to let us believe it was escorts without actually saying it. Freeze too fast to let people believe it. Then, they beg people to respect his privacy. We all know there is something else there...more to come. It's rumored to be bad. Whatever it is, it must be really really bad. I just cant see another reason they act like this otherwise.

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This was the preamble. The "Mother Of All bombs" (MOAB) is still to come.

The most logical and prevailing theories are: 1) hookers for recruits and 2) his affair(s). Neither will be a shock to us here, but to the rest of the world it'll be downright scandalous. Personally, if it's hookers for cruits' they're done. Toast. Finito. Death.

Only other explanation to cut ties so quickly is that there are possible criminal charges coming. In fact, ole Miss may have to file charges against freeze to separate itself.

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

You know everyone is assuming that the escorts are females.....maybe, maybe not!

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Beaver do gnaw on wood!

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Oh It's Coming isn't completely here

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I hear that's what Bucky said.

I honestly don't know, but is there not some criminal element if a man is hiring hookers for 17 year old boys? I have no idea if true, although that rumor has been around now for a while. But it would seem NCAA would be the least of my concerns if they can somehow prove that.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I honestly don't know, but is there not some criminal element if a man is hiring hookers for 17 year old boys? I have no idea if true, although that rumor has been around now for a while. But it would seem NCAA would be the least of my concerns if they can somehow prove that.

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What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.

What a better way to a recruit's commitment than some cash, clothes and a little poon. If these were minors, then the purchase of escorts/hookers has to be not only a NCAA violation, but a crime. If Bucky was involved with this, then he's got some splaining to do.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.

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Credit card records are next. If the school paid for hookers they are finished. I mean out of the SEC finished. If some boosters paid for hookers for croots for years then it's pretty much the DP.

I was not on board regarding Ole Miss receiving the Death Penalty (DP) for their transgressions. However, should "hookers for recruits" become a reality, I believe the DP will be probable. Interestingly, it could come in the form of a self-imposed one year DP a la Tulane following the Hot Rod Willimas point shaving scandal. (The Tulane self-imposed DP was intended to be permanent, but lasted 2-3 years, I think.)
It appears more will be revealed in the coming days or weeks. Should it simply be more salacious details regarding Freeze's personal life, then meh. He has been exposed as a fraud, and what remains of his personal life is just that, personal. However, should this bleed over into recruiting, hold on for an even wilder and exciting ride.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

This was the preamble. The "Mother Of All bombs" (MOAB) is still to come.

The most logical and prevailing theories are: 1) hookers for recruits and 2) his affair(s). Neither will be a shock to us here, but to the rest of the world it'll be downright scandalous. Personally, if it's hookers for cruits' they're done. Toast. Finito. Death.

Only other explanation to cut ties so quickly is that there are possible criminal charges coming. In fact, ole Miss may have to file charges against freeze to separate itself.

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Only an individual that's been living in Siberia for the past 20 years (or has powder blue hanging in their closet) would think "hookers for recruits" is NOT logical.

That said and operating under the assumption it was "hookers for recruits" and there are possible criminal charges coming, would TCUN have already been made aware of a law enforcement agency homing in on the crimes of "paid sex for/with minors" or is it still pre-mature to think law enforcement has been notified to investigate? Because I agree, something has definitely spooked the TCUN camp to make them pull the plug on Freeze as fast as they did.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I honestly don't know, but is there not some criminal element if a man is hiring hookers for 17 year old boys? I have no idea if true, although that rumor has been around now for a while. But it would seem NCAA would be the least of my concerns if they can somehow prove that.

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At one time there was also a rumor on their big weekend of recruits being transported to Memphis for .........watching the marching ducks in the Peabody Hotel? Maybe that was another mistake and there was another reason.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.

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The possibilities...

Does the Opportunity Fund count?

And what if ole Barn paid the lady entrepreneurs?

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

This was the preamble. The "Mother Of All bombs" (MOAB) is still to come.

The most logical and prevailing theories are: 1) hookers for recruits and 2) his affair(s). Neither will be a shock to us here, but to the rest of the world it'll be downright scandalous. Personally, if it's hookers for cruits' they're done. Toast. Finito. Death.

Only other explanation to cut ties so quickly is that there are possible criminal charges coming. In fact, ole Miss may have to file charges against freeze to separate itself.

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Im thinking even worse. That is kind of what they want us to believe. Are we sure Freeze is still in the country? Haha

Surely one of the players mentioned the "entertainment" in the immunity interviews. However it would have been impossible for the investigators to corroborate the story with evidence since it was behind closed doors and was likely a cash transaction and they don't have the girls' testimony. Until now. All the NCAA would have to do is line up the dates of escort calls with the information given in the immunity interviews. If they line up voi la NOA 3!!!

Hookers for recruits is one...

Check with Matt Luke on the hooker calls. Chris Jones could tell how it works. Just saying.......

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.

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Where is the state auditor's office??? They should have already been at OM...

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Originally Posted by Bully75

Check with Matt Luke on the hooker calls. Chris Jones could tell how it works. Just saying.......

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How many burner phones did Matt Luke have...... he has very dirty hands....

As my mother said...... Freeze has better be glad that the person, that they gave a prostitute too, was not my child.... You don't even have to ask... what would have happened.... Hahahaaha

Maybe we all should refer to these cheating asshats by their actual name, UM.

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

Surely one of the players mentioned the "entertainment" in the immunity interviews. However it would have been impossible for the investigators to corroborate the story with evidence since it was behind closed doors and was likely a cash transaction and they don't have the girls' testimony. Until now. All the NCAA would have to do is line up the dates of escort calls with the information given in the immunity interviews. If they line up voi la NOA 3!!!

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And the hookers, money, and phony agents were going to get Big Softie into trouble.

The only story out there so far stems from the resignation announcement. Were they trying to get out in front of this ?
Said they had complied with the records request by Nutt's attorney. How long have Nutt and company had this info?
I haven't heard a peep from them. I agree there is some missing piece here

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Originally Posted by bobtail bob

The only story out there so far stems from the resignation announcement. Were they trying to get out in front of this ?
Said they had complied with the records request by Nutt's attorney. How long have Nutt and company had this info?
I haven't heard a peep from them. I agree there is some missing piece here

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Nutt's attorney did receive part of the phone records... He has now, last week?, asked for ALL of the phone records of ALL employees...in OM ath. department
There are lots of missing pieces here... some of the answers will be on the BURNER PHONES>.... haha

Do federal charges for soliciting prostitutes for minors across state line work like other charges as in for each time it happened it is a charge? Could OM/Freeze be facing multiple charges for each recruiting cycle? Like 60 separate charges across 4 years type amount? Can someone put Freezus's face on this gif please

https://media.giphy.com/media/ivFQpdUZyNZeM/giphy.gif

The rest of the story may explain why some of the "Redacted" are so worried.

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Originally Posted by sorrydog

The rest of the story may explain why some of the "Redacted" are so worried.

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Their more women than hookers involved. Local women who Hugh took care of. Most of the insiders in the Ole Miss program knew this over a year ago. They even knew where he was meeting them. In typical Ole Miss fashion they have tried to spin this only one way. Stay tuned it will get better

So Freeze was hooking up with the hookers before or after the recruits had them?

For what it is worth, the rumor/speculation among some of the Ole Miss faithful is that Freeze is taking one for the team. Had a close friend and loyal Rebel tell me this today. I am not much of a conspiracy theory person, but the situation in Oxford is so disjointed that nothing would surprise me at this point. If Freeze's resignation is part of a larger cover-up, it will fall apart soon enough and at that point, this becomes SMU part two.

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Originally Posted by Dolphus Raymond

For what it is worth, the rumor/speculation among some of the Ole Miss faithful is that Freeze is taking one for the team. Had a close friend and loyal Rebel tell me this today. I am not much of a conspiracy theory person, but the situation in Oxford is so disjointed that nothing would surprise me at this point. If Freeze's resignation is part of a larger cover-up, it will fall apart soon enough and at that point, this becomes SMU part two.

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This is the exact info that I have had passed to me. If this is true it's an epic time to be a dawg.

Didn't I read in the Oxford newspaper a story about several prostitutes getting arrested in Oxford a few years ago. Seems like it was 2015. Several of the gals were from out of state if I remember correctly.

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Originally Posted by Dolphus Raymond

For what it is worth, the rumor/speculation among some of the Ole Miss faithful is that Freeze is taking one for the team. Had a close friend and loyal Rebel tell me this today. I am not much of a conspiracy theory person, but the situation in Oxford is so disjointed that nothing would surprise me at this point. If Freeze's resignation is part of a larger cover-up, it will fall apart soon enough and at that point, this becomes SMU part two.

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Remember in the hostage video Bdork practically begging to stay in the SEC? They knew how big of a shit storm this really was and probation, lost schollies and a couple of lost bowl games will be the very least of their worries.

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Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg

Didn't I read in the Oxford newspaper a story about several prostitutes getting arrested in Oxford a few years ago. Seems like it was 2015. Several of the gals were from out of state if I remember correctly.

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Had forgotten about it but do remember that story. Want to say it occurred close to a recruiting event, but I maybe way off with that part. The hookers part definitely happened.

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Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg

Didn't I read in the Oxford newspaper a story about several prostitutes getting arrested in Oxford a few years ago. Seems like it was 2015. Several of the gals were from out of state if I remember correctly.

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http://wjtv.com/2016/01/05/2-arreste...ing-operation/

This might be it but honestly they'd have to pay me.