Gridley is still our SS- you don't move a guy with 2 years experience that's good at his position
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Gridley is still our SS- you don't move a guy with 2 years experience that's good at his position
That he is... long year though
He's not going anywhere- and Belmont better hit because the kid from Washington is breathing down his neck
U right. Gridley is real good.
2 plays gridley didn't make that Alexander makes with ease
I forgot to add the *** but I feel like you got the idea, 7.
Gridley won't end the year as our SS.
Gridley isn't going anywhere
And we'll be arguing about it all season hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Belmont was our best hitter tonight and is our best defensive infielder. Gridley and Stovall need to fight over 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Where was Cody Brown?
yyuup.... it has begun.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He had a good night- but Gridley is going to be our SSQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Got to argue about something since Cohen isn't bunting anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Isn't this the exact kind of thing you blast Mullen for? Playing a less talented guy because he's more experienced?Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
It's about like if the braves had brought up Swanson and played him at 3b bc we had aybar and no real 3b. The best SS has to be at SS and worry about 3b later. Defense at SS is more important than 3b imoQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
In 2 yrs grid has done nothing to cost us games. Belmont hasn't proven anything at this point except he's awesome defensively in high school and some scrimmages. He may end up being great. But he has to prove it. One game doesn't prove it. Let's see him be consistent and stay healthy. Grid has already been both for 2 full years.
You must have forgot the beginning of last season... in particular the ball he got in short left almost at 3b vs vandy to save a run. Alexander started at SS last season and lost job bc of bat, not glove.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
He started what a game? Grid is gonna have to play his way off of ss and rightfully so. Just deal with it and get used to it.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
He started 19 games at SS last season and 1 at 2b (tried to come back from injury and left early)Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
And you guys are right... gridley has done nothing at ss to cost us games. The problem is he hasn't done anything to win games defensively at SS either. Luke can win games with his glove. And the difference in offense?
In '16...
Gridley ops = .685
Luke ops = .675
I don't see AC moving Gridley. Not after the preseason praise he gave him. And while I don't think Gridley has great range...I don't think he needs to be moved. Gotta have him in the batting order, and unless you switch him & LA, or put him at 2B and Stovall at 3B, I don't know where you move him. Plus, he hasn't been practicing those positions, nor have Stovall or LA. So best case scenario is leave them be since this was one game against a top 15-20 opponent.
Then you need them both in the lineup. That's all that tells me. You don't take a solid bat like Gridley out of the lineup when you clearly don't have great hitters this year. Don't make a bad problem worse by removing one of its' better piecesQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Dude, take a break sometimes. You talking about last year? Who gives a flip?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
New Coach, new team, new year. One game and you bitching about a player already?
They're not getting moved. Cannizzaro wants both in the lineup. Gridley can't really play third. Gridley is a solid ss. I don't know what the deal is against him. Also I would almost bet you that he's going to hit 300 with a good amount of doubles and 4 homeruns this year
I know I come across as a gridley hater, but that's just not the case. Again, gridley's ops was .685 last season... not good. Best scenario for the team is Stovall at 2b, Alexander at SS, and Bragg or Skelton man 3b and hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
About gridley's .685 ops... Cody brown's ops was .786 and he sits. If you ops below .700, you've got to be elite defensively, not adequate
I'm with this guy ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by hailstate17
Well Cody Brown doesn't play infield, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Gridley is nowhere Near as bad defensively as y'all try to paint him. Not a ton of range, but a good SS. If he can get to it, he makes the play
His career ISO is .065... I wouldn't hold my breath on power comingQuote:
Originally Posted by hailstate17
Range and arm are what make a good SSQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Oh, and quit using last year's stats. It's a new season, with a new hitting coach, and players with more experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Then he has enough, bc he's pretty good. He isn't great. But far from a liability at SS. We have FAR bigger defensive issues than Gridley, yet you are stuck on him for some reason. He isn't moving, so I guess I don't get the pointQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He had at least 1 HR last year, and several extra base hits. Again, Gridley was nowhere near a liability at the plate last year, so why are you ripping him? We don't have another infielder to put there without opening another weakness at 3B. And there's no way of knowing that Gridley won't have a better year than Stovall AND LA, bc Gridley is solid. You're hung up on himQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If the kid from Washington ends up playing 3rd base, we are in major trouble. I am all for him DH'ing, but trust me he isn't there defensively yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Lack of range and arm at the most premium defensive position.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Career OPS (398 ABs) is .663. In the cape this summer, he OPS'd at .588 (31 games).
Where do you guys get this idea he's gonna suddenly be a silver slugger, slick fielding SS?
Cadaver, I argued that Holloway should've been the guy in the preseason. My reasoning was that Mullen obviously thought Holloway was the best option and that was good enough for me. I was wrong and so was Mullen... aeris was the best of our RBs. This is a similar situation imo. Luke is a backup SS to a lesser player
Lol, well I argued for Aeris & against Holloway and was right, and now I'm arguing for Gridley. HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Who said he was going to be a slugger? You're talking about one of our best bats...think about that. It doesn't matter how good or bad he is according to your stats, he's still one of the best we've got...so you don't remove him. It's that simpleQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Not very similar in my opinion. It would be like if you lined them both up at running back or put Holloway in the slot. Look Alexander might be a litttle more talented. But tell me if we take Alexander off third base. Who is playing there? We're trying to make a catcher into a third baseman, but think Gavin Collins with less homeruns and lower average. (At this point in his career) then we have another guy who can't hit or field, but he has a ton of potential. Y'all want to put him on the field? Last night was our best infield. The only difference I would like in the lineup is Cody Brown and Poole in the lineup for marrero and blaylock