WTF??? Is it audacity or stupidity???
This may be completely untrue so take it with a grain of salt. It may be folks late to the party regurgitating what we already know from the first NOA but I'm hearing the Bucky brought a booster to see a recruit again and the NCAA has been questioning folks about it.
Also, Willie Gay had the "goods" on Ole Miss and rolled on them. Don't know if that ones true....seems a little too convenient.
Steve mentioned the second booster visit last week
There has been some smoke about Willie mentioned already. But I am skeptical that they would be foolish enough to try expose themselves there with it being know it was really an msu vs lsu battle
If this is true, doesn't the NCAA have to expedite the process? I mean you can't keep letting a coach cheat bc the process moves at a snail's paceQuote:
Originally Posted by jumbo
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They definitely did some more of the same this time around.
I have seen mentioned multiple times that Freeze and Oher were seen together with a recruit in Hattiesburg. Is that a no-no?
If Oher intentionally accompanied or met up with Freeze on the trip then yes, it's a violation.Quote:
Originally Posted by turkish
May have been their strategy haha...if they're going to continue to delay so they can investigate when new allegations occur, seems like the best bet is to just continue blatantly cheating so they have to keep investigating and postponing punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The results of this class may make them realize that was still a bad strategy, and that may be the reason Freeze was so ticked about it.
At this point they need a 2 year death penalty followed up with a 30 scholly reduction over the following 4 years. hahah
Freeze is heading to the booth or to another place in football (not sure NFL has a place for him) so he doesn't care. He'll be out of this in a few years but will have made his $40M+ over a career and really doesn't need the gig. He's going down with the ship at this point and will continue to lecture us along the way.
If they are still cheating then the only way to stop them is to take away their reason to cheat and that is to dismantle the football team. It's now overly obvious that if they have a team taking the field they are going to cheat to make it as good as they can.
Its time for the NCAA to announce the COI meeting (date and time) so the penalties can be administered for the 1st NOA, regardless of where they are in the process of the 2nd NOA.
After all, it's only fair to their prospective recruits to let them know the "true" story as Lyin' Hugh will continue to preach from his pulpit of hypocrisy that nothing other than a single year bowl ban is expected. As DD said, "I trust him, Hugh won't lie to me (paraphrasing)."
Time to get this 1st BS with the NCAA done and penalties handed out, then move on to the 2nd NOA and the 3rd NOA and so forth.
**** those $#!^birds!!!
I think at this point they really just don't have anything to lose. They're probably going down hard anyway, so might as well keep doing what you've been doing.
What choice does the NCAA have other than at least a one year DP? Will scholarship reduction stop them? It will probably just make them spend more on the guys they do get.
THIS^^ I haven't thought about that but that is probably true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
Yup. I heard they were continuing to offer financial incentives to "mitigate the damages" from the ongoing investigation. Scholarship losses are a huge loss unless you can pay your tuition in cash. One year death penalty sounds appropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
Sending Shay Hodge in to talk to .D. Bowie is a violation. He is a booster now, idiots.
And Hugh actually admitted yesterday that they may actually get hit hard by the NCAA. So, you tell your croots before NSD that it's all a witch hunt and not that bad and after NSD you admit that the NCAA just may lower the boom as expected. Great work there, Hugh.
They are Stupid Foolish.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
That's a pre-existing relationship right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodaski
Yeah, that is not a violation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I would love to see where he said this because this means the end game is finally starting to hit home with this group (network, coaches, administrators AND fanbase).Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Bo played it this am on his show. He was flabbergasted Freeze would admit in public that a) the rumors might be true and b) they could get hit hard by the NCAA.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
What's sad is that Mississippi based sports media "journalists" don't realize or understand what is going on in their own state in regards to college athletics. They are either stupid or complicit. Sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Complicit, they aren't ALL stupid. They don't want to get "Blevined".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
I posted back in August/September that Gay turned them in and turned over messages from The Lord and Savior himself. The only thing that was not clear regarding Gay was whether or not it was a burner phone. This was all around the time the NCAA was offering immunity to the Bo Scarboroughs and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
With regard to the booster and recruit this current cycle I heard of one back during the season when Brennan decommitted from LSU for a brief period. Bucky quickly left his beaver dam and headed down to Bay St.Louis, booster in tow to visit the fine QB. Brennan said no dice and went back to LSU. The whole timing and setup of this visit almost appeared like a sting setup by the NCAA. It was right after the immunity deals. Brennan who had been committed to LSU for a while and has had family ties to Louisiana, all of a sudden decommits. Bucky slaps his tail and does the same thing the NCAA just received info on. Brennan says no and does not wait long to recommit to LSU. The entire thing appeared like a sting operation and the dumb SOB's fell for it.
I mean hell, they nailed Jesus to a cross. What do you expect?
No it's not. He had a previous relationship w him. It's not illegal to talk to him. Only illegal to use him to offer cash, and prizes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodaski
Or use a credit card to hold tires until his mom could pay for them**Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Here's the catch. A lot of bears are now saying they are going to be hit hard. What they won't admit is that they have done anything to deserve being hit hard. They are still trying to say this is all a witch hunt and the NCAA is going to hit them hard not because of what they found, but to try and justify the length of the investigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
OM's motto?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ
From what I'm told, it's not a violation of course, for a family member to speak to a family member about where he's going to play ball. But it is a violation for the coach to ask that family member to call & coherce on his behalfQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I don't listen to Bo or Matt Wyatt because I think they are too soft when it comes to telling it like it truly is regarding MSU sports (and the news relating to our rival Cheating Bastards up North), but surely Bo had to follow up with an opinion or two regarding this, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
And because they beat Bama back-to-back. Apparently the NCAA has a vested interest in not seeing Bama lose back-to-back to UNM...so they are going to have to show UNM its their responsibility to lose to Bama. Its in the NCAA's best interest, don't you know.****Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34
Seriously, a bunch of those UNM fans are some of the dumbest SOB's on the planet.
I've heard this too. Idiots. I guess the NCAA is about to go after Clemson then.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
If true, they deserve the death penalty.
This wasn't a rogue booster being a little over zealous. There was a network in place to cheat. That reached from low level boosters to the head coach and coaches. It spanned over multiple years and in the admist of an investigation.
Regardless of what would cause them the most anguish. They deserve the Death penalty.
Ole Miss is an athletic department supported by a bunch of white collar criminals. They believe they can thwart any punishment handed down by turning the tables on the NCAA, using coercion tactics to back them off. That's how entitled they feel.
Yep. I suspect their plan (and that of their fans) is to continue to try like hell to demonize the NCAA, and get other school's fans to join their "crusade" by trying to make it "the NCAA vs all of us" instead of "the NCAA vs Ole Miss". They're trying to "warn" other school's fans that they may be next if they don't join in a public outcry against the NCAA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
They need to stall the COI meeting as much as possible in order for this plan to take effect in hope that by the time they have to face-the-music the tune will have changed, allowing them to get off easy.
They proudly promote the "network". The network got Pete Boone and Cutcliff fired because they wanted no part of what the plans were and how the network would operate. Freeze worked within the network as an off-field coach in recruiting under Orgeron. He was the perfect fit after Nutt started sliding. Hr was the All-American Christian man that could hide behind that and leg the network do its thing and he would be the face they could hide behind. Freeze knew how GED's were completed and ACT scores were fixed to pass. Boone fires Sanders because of the Powe and other Waynesboro deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen