Anyone heard anything on this? I heard it on the radio this morning and wondered if there was any truth to it.
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Anyone heard anything on this? I heard it on the radio this morning and wondered if there was any truth to it.
Steve mentioned there is a pro OM piece to come out soon.
Not what I wanted to hear...
Does seem like it is about the time of year for Barrett Sallee to go down on them like a $10 hooker.
It's almost signing day and the investigation is still hanging out there even worse than last year...of course they are getting someone to write a positive piece about the investigation. Was there ever a doubt they would do this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boodawg
Does it really surprise you that the Ole Miss media would come out with a fluff piece right before signing day to try and minimize damage?
Nope, not surprised at all, but still not what I wanted to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb
"See DD, we good" -- freezeQuote:
Originally Posted by jumbo
"To show you how good, we gonna exemplary cooperate with you by giving you this IOU to our post-NCAA COI celebratory party at the Library where you'll get more "schooling" than you ever thought possible. After all, we gotta make up for our Network's lack of attention while we were recruiting you." -- bdorkQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Who authors the article? I say Bruce Feldmen
It's a good thing the NCAA has given them a routine check up that turned in to a 4+ year colonoscopy. Has to be. See, the Clarion Ledger says so.
Would be nice to see some more "good" news to leak before 2/1...
Kellenberger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
I would be totally shocked if there isn't a positive article sometime this week. If there isn't, that will say a LOT more than if there is one.
Pat Killaburger is the odds on favorite. I stay in touch with some bear lawyers and they talking about suing the NCAA if the sanctions are bad(which they will be). He mentioned getting subpoena power over the NCAA's documents and emails. This works both ways tho. Do the bears really want to open Pandora's box?
That Brad Logan character is always available.
Some of his recent work-
Ole Miss noted it intends on self-sanctioning itself and will present before the COI once it is granted a hearing. It will then be decided if the NCAA decides to add any additional sanctions to those already proposed.
Ben Garrett, who has been at the forefront of this investigation, was steadfast on the Ole Miss Spirit podcast that Ole Miss would "fight back" should the COI render a verdict that was not deemed satisfactory to its liking.
For Ole Miss fans, that is music to their respective ears. The recent legislation from Rep. Lamar could be the match that lights the fire to the conclusion to what many have called a "witch hunt" against a program that is one year removed from a Sugar Bowl victory.
The last thing they want is to be put under oath. Lying to the NCAA during an investigation isn't a crime (although it can have VERY bad consequences with the NCAA). Lying under oath is. The NCAA would probabaly LOVE for Ole Miss to sue them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acid mouth
No doubt. Either Kellenberger or Sallee are my betsQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Please don't insult $10 hookers they have more class.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
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Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
Fixed it for him:
The recent legislation from Rep. Lamar could be the match that lights the fire to the conclusion to what many have called a "witch hunt" against a program that is one year from a removed Sugar Bowl victory.
"Ben Garrett, who has been at the forefront of this investigation..."Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
Good lord, that's high comedy.
Barrett Sallee is a dumbass
That's an insult to dumbasses.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
Actually, it will be interesting to see who authors the piece (if they even put their name on it...it may just say "staff"). It would be a clear indication of what reporters are in Ole Miss's pocket. This could lead to some interesting questions from the NCAA. Imagine the story if it was discovered that a news organization or reporter was involved with intentional deception in regards to the NCAA and how it will impact recruiting.
This has been allowed to happen TOO MUCH. One of about 4 reporters between ESPN, Bleacher Report, and CL will post a glowing article about Ole Miss that flies in the face of EVERYTHING that is being reported involving the investigation. When they are proven wrong NO ONE says anything or holds them to their reporting. It has happened OVER and OVER with no consequences. How a group can get by with this is unbelievable.
How could there possibly be anything positive about Ole Miss coming out?
Maybe they've planted additional trees in the Grove, thereby making an already beautiful campus even more beautiful.***Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Also...this has everything to do with DD Bowie. If Ole Miss loses him the melt will be unbelievable and heads will roll. But the Ole Miss staff can't blatantly lie to recruits anymore because their bluff has been called. DD has drawn a line in the sand. If they don't know what the sanctions are going to be then he's not going to Ole Miss. if the sanctions come out and they are bad then he's not going to Ole Miss. So what do you do?
Get a "in pocket" reporter to put out a puff piece saying they have an inside source and it's telling them that the NCAA will only do a few schollys over what's suggested and probably not a bowl ban. The. Ole Miss staff can say "see...it's right there in print. We are good DD".
When the actual sanctions come out and it's a 30+ scholly loss, 2-3 year bowl probation, show causes, and potential removal from the SEC it will be too late. And...no one will EVER challenge this reporters motives or sources.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
You people that think they might get removed from the league are going to be upset. That's just not happening..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
You have to remember who you are dealing with here. They have been putting out spin pieces for this entire process. The only difference now is that everyone points and laughs at them when they do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
When you live in a made up fantasy world anything is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Why would I be upset and why NOT talk up the possibilityuntil it's proven otherwise. I just don't understand the "fair and balanced" stupidity that some of our fans try to pull in regards to UNM. Talk it up even if it's less than a .0000001% chance of it happening. There is no negative for us in this....why do I have to spell this out? Holy crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
$1M bet that it hits before NSD. Any takers? Bueller? Bueller?
I'd be embarrassed to be an OM fan at this point. Take your lumps and move on you bunch of pasties.
One would think that would be a REALLY easy thing for our coaching staff to deflect though, considering the mountains of negative news out there versus this one, potential positive mustard seed. i.e..."DD...that article was written by an om writer!! C'mon man"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
If our coaching staff has him convinced, as is, that it's going to be nuclear for them...a fluff piece shouldn't do much to sway.
Come on, Homedawg. Is it likely they're removed from the SEC - no. Is it possible they could be removed from the SEC - yes, depending on how egregious AND numerous AND "up yours to the NCAA" their actions are (or have been).Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I'm with Dawgology (and several others) in that I view the length of time their transgressions have gone on and how they've attempted to rub the NCAA's nose in it, and choose to believe that EVERYTHING is on the table because the NCAA has not seen a case of this magnitude. Again, the Network's actions will make the 1980s-SMU look like an appetizer to TCUN's actions (circa 2010-present) the main entree, especially if they've been caught with their hand in the cookie jar again during the current recruiting cycle.
Don't ever say never, because it is possible.
^^^^ ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
I mean there is the whole credibility factor. The more people put outrageous things on here the more anyone that isn't a die hard State fan won't take any info on this board seriously, and them getting kicked out of the conference is outlandish. A lot gets broken on here but outsiders will think that this board is just full of crazy people if everyone jumps on the "Ole Miss could get kicked out of the conference" train. That's just not going to happen. They have plenty of shit coming their way without expanding it to levels that will make people just roll their eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
This is my prayer. If they try to sue the NCAA or SEC or anyone else they think is involved with this then that would be the onous the SEC would have to kick them out. They've already massively embarrassed the league with their shenanigans after the league has worked hard to clean up "the image".Quote:
Originally Posted by Acid mouth
OM is an institutionalized image problem for the SEC from Rebel flags, to nooses on statues of civil rights pioneers, to colonel Reb, to Laremy Tunsil's draft day bombshell. And to make matters worse they are still reluctant to change by keeping Freeze and Bjork on staff. Good riddance.
While I've always thought the sanctions would be harsh, I thought it was impossible to get removed from the SEC...... until now. If the bears sue the NCAA then it's certainly possible. They are wanting to show that other SEC teams (Bama, Georgia, etc) bid on players that they were bidding on. By wanting to drag down other SEC teams because of their rampant, blatant, relentless strain of cheating, I believe the conference at least considers removing them. The SEC can't afford to have this liability of a program especially when they contribute very little to the powerhouse known as the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
http://www.secsports.com/article/110...ern-conference
1) I could make a strong case that OM's action have not been"compatible with the highest standards of education and competitive sports" which is the SEC's mission statement. Don't forget they have been busted for academic fraud as well as financial inducements.
2) I could argue that the behavior of Hugh Freeze, the football staff, and the players did not "at all times reflect the high standards of honor and dignity that characterize participation in the collegiate setting".
3)"It is the responsibility of each member institution to establish policies for sportsmanship and ethical conduct in intercollegiate athletics consistent with the educational mission and goals of the institution. Furthermore, member institutions are responsible for educating on a continuing basis all constituencies about these policies."
I would love to hear Hugh Freese's response to this and he better not say "mistakes were made".