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Murray says Mullen has earned the right to have a down season after 8 years without a bad loss and even if this season tanks, he won't be fired. He says that we don't have the money to buy him out because the SEC money has already been committed. The only way Mullen leaves after this year is if someone comes in and offers him a better job.
I know for a 100% fact that money will not be an issue on the buy out if we were to tank and fire him. This came from the horses mouth.
I want to add that it is a shame that a veteran journalist that has been in the program for decades does not have the correct info and goes on a statewide radio show saying a lie but a regular joe like me does.
I don't listen to that show.
I find it hard to believe that we'd instantly pony up to fire a coach with his first potential losing season in seven years but haven't gotten the baseball stadium paid for going on year three.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
This. If we fired him today we'd owe him roughly $12 million. Doesn't make sense to pay a guy $12 million to go away after 7 straight winning seasons. Next year is a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by thf24
What are you talking about? The baseball stadium renovation will start after this season.
I do find it interesting how adamant & confident Bo is about how Mullen is coaching for his job the rest of the season.
The reason I say this is because Bo is usually measured on these types of things & has in the past called it ludicrous to think Mullen's job wasn't safe.
It's clear to me that Bo must have good sources on this & has been talking to some big boosters that David Murray probably doesn't have access to.
I also think it's important to remember that Mullen's job is not on the line due to what happened Saturday. Mullen's job is on the line due to looking for jobs every off season, not recruiting well, losing recruiting in the Golden Triangle, losing to Ole Miss 2 straight, etc.... it's accumulative.
A lot of you are missing the point. It's not the fact that he lost to USA or that he will have a losing record this year. It's the direction the program is now headed. If you to be either blind or stupid to not see that we are at a crossroads. Mullen has been looking for a better opportunity for atleast 2 years now and he doesn't want to be here. He's going through the motions. I would 100% agree that he deserves a chance to turn it around if his heart was in Starkville. But it's not, he genuinely does not want to be here. It's written all over his faceQuote:
Originally Posted by thf24
The entire project as initially announced is paid for? Doesn't mean they can't start.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
Let's wait and see if he still doesn't want to be here by the end of this season. This may be the season he realizes the grass isn't always greener. What if we'd fired Jackie when he was struggling and shopping himself for other jobs?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg
I have no idea about the specifics of the baseball funding, but I just find it really hard to believe that you will start tearing down the baseball stadium without having the money to finish it. It will be a two year process so if they dont have it all, they still have another year or so to get the rest.
I'm just saying that they buyout money is not a problem. They have a fund for that.
As 'mic' posted yesterday, since the last week we were ranked #1, we are 10-8. Granted, that's two FG away from being 12-6 but, in reality its still 10-8. Looks like we're on the fast track to being a .500 team (or worse).Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg
He only has 2 years remaining after this season. We didn't extend for this very reason. And because we didn't extend and meet his demand of $5mil a year he pouted all off season and showed up to the opening game in f*cking shorts. If you had heard what happened in off season it's pretty apparent he's sticking this season to Strick and Keenum for not caving to his demands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.
was thinking the same - since we were ranked #1 every team has improved except us. they've recruited better and been better coached. WTH!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
Every rational-minded fan understands the reality of this.
Unfortunately, rational-mindness isn't a common trait here. We're wanting to fire our most successful coach ever after 1 game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taog Redloh
What the hell happened in the off season that you keep referring to??Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
He will only have 2 years remaining on his contract come December. We will owe him between 6-7 million if we fire him.
If we feel that move has to be made- the money will be there.
I disagree on the buyout. It can be done if needed. Murray is speculating there and he's wrong.
I think it is hilarious the bitching going on about him wearing shorts. What the 17 does that have to do with winning and losing? Sort of like the uniform complaints. Got to be looking for something to bitch about.....which is pretty common on here.
Thinking about new potential coaches is a lot more fun than thinking about the loss to South Alabama. Mullen can definitely redeem himself it just doesn't look very promising right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Haha... That's true. I do think we should give him game 2 before naming his replacement thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
LSU said the same thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.
If not for the current state of financial affairs in LA, that ~$30 Mil check woulda been scratched out with the quickness and the Tiger fanbase wouldn't still be on suicide watch....
Gawd, I hope Les goes 12-2 this year...
He lost one game.
Absolutely on point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.
To hell with the buyout. Why not put the money into the network... :confused:
Our fanbase is clueless on most things. Mullen isn't going anywhere during this season and the coaching search stuff is silly. If he wins five games or so, the fans will be pissed, but he will be back unless he finds another job. Bo Bounds is one of the most uninformed guys there is. He talks like he has sources, but it is only what he reads from the CL site. The Scout bunch are jokes and if not for Rosebowl finally coming out of his Rip Van Winkle slumber and having a source on the UM investigation, they would still be considered the armpits they are in MSU coverage.
We've only played one game. Looking at 100% of the sample, most people are convinced his team isn't that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by StoneDawg
Exactly I wanna know what this guy knowsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Who the Hell is going to hire him for $4.5 million per year? Dan isn't going anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcat91
If he wants out, let him do what a lot of regular folks are doing---take a paycut. But he isn't going anywhere.
If he didn't get an extension last year wouldn't we only owe him for 2 years after this one? He would only have a 3 year deal coming into this year or am I missing something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.
Exactly. It's around 6-7 million come December- not 12. 2 years left after this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Exactly. Mullen has been building this shit show instead a focused, disciplined team of highly recruited players. If this were a play we'd be going into the third and final act.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
And Bo was saying in early August we'd be lucky to get 6 wins and I thought he was full of shit. He has good sources who have evaluated the team and sources who are close to the Mullen situation. As he said yesterday 4-8 gets you fired at MSU these days not a pat on the back and a "we'll get 'em next year coach."
To a really shitty Sunbelt team that was one of the worst teams vs the run last year and was missing 3 of their D-line starters, and in a game that wasn't a fluke. They beat us.Quote:
Originally Posted by StoneDawg
Not all losses are the same.
On top of that...Dan's post-game communication has been anything but encouraging...anything but indicative of a man accepting his own personal responsibility, with promises of getting it fixed.
As has been discussed as nauseum, Dan was already on thin ice due to his constant apparent willingness to, "whore himself out" every year, which has damaged our recruiting efforts in that time of our history that should have been the stepping-stone, [I]the[I] springboard to further our program...coming off several weeks of #1 ranking.
Stop and think about how rare that was for us. In 115 years of football, we have never been close to that. Yes, Dan was instrumental in getting us there, but his actions have also clearly stunted our ability to fully capitalize on that success via recruiting.
That may well have been our one-shot in our lifetime, possibly ever to take that huge step forward toward becoming a powerhouse. We've seen multiple signs of that slipping away. The loss to USA looks like it might be the final nail-in-the-coffin of that dream.
So no...it is not just that he "lost one game".
If Mullen has a bad record this season and we get rid of him that will be a sign that we have come a long way as a program recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
I think in Dan's mind he was #1 not the team. Instead of using that #1 ranking to take the next step for the team he used it to take the next step for himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
I remember these exact same discussuons Croom's last season. "He's not going anywhere", "he will get another year", etc. Lol. Same song, different verse. If Dan wins 3 games and gets blown out yet again to Ole Miss, bye, bye. He gone.
Much like Croom it could be a blow out @ Ole Miss that does it.
Right. I don't understand some folks math on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster