Hugh Freeze is difficult to figure out

Check out this tweet: https://twitter.com/zacellis/status/753631440928174080

Wonder if Les hung up the phone and said, "wtf did he call me, who t f does he think he is?"

1. Freeze is a professional talker. This is similar to OBama when in front of a microphone. He's smooth, prepared, and is an ace at portraying innocence.

2. He is as self consciousness of a 12 year old girl. Cares way to much about what people think. He desperately above all else wants to be liked.

3. He's a professional liar. As a professional talker, he has the media wrapped around his finger, but he is different, almost psychotic away from the microphone.

4. I can't figure out if he has a conscience or not. We have actual stories, some on the record and some off, of him running a systematic cheating scheme at Ole Miss, however, as a professional talker, he's able to get away with the innocent card. Not sure where is mind is.

5. He's arrogant beyond all recognition. He knows he can fool people and takes pride in it. This actually makes him a good recruiter. Mullen has more substance, but terribly lacks in this category.

This guy is a professional politician but I can't figure out his personality. He's definitely got some Jeffery Dahmer in him.

This stuff just keeps getting weirder.

1) why do that at all?

2) why do that then talk about doing that?

Maybe he gave les some advice on game planning?

Why would he call his real rival?

He's gonna break one of these days and it won't be purty.

Christianity vs Rebelism

I like how he said he gets inquiries from NFL staffs about his offense - apparently he is the golden guru of football now.

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Originally Posted by Indndawg

He's gonna break one of these days and it won't be purty.

Christianity vs Rebelism

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You would think but Freeze is an Oscar caliber actor.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I like how he said he gets inquiries from NFL staffs about his offense - apparently he is the golden guru of football now.

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That's got to be among the most boldface lies he's told. No one in the NFL is interested in a 6 play cookie cutter offense.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You would think but Freeze is an Oscar caliber actor.

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I don't think Freeze is acting. I think he's a narcissist and maybe somewhat of a sociopath. He's not struggling because he's trying to maintain a public persona at odds with his private persona. Very few people that pull off something like he is pulling off without believing their own bullshit. He really thinks that what he's doing isn't cheating (and not in the sense that he feels like players should be payed so there's no harm; I think he really believes that what they do basically falls in an unidentified exception that should apply to him for whatever reason) and I think is actually surprised and bothered that other coaches think of him as dirty. He's actually struggling because he feels like he's not getting the admiration he deserves and he really doesn't understand why he is being singled out for no reason, so the only explanation is that it is a test from god or the devil.

Freeze is a classic sociopath....no conscience...a charmer who believes his own lies....really a dangerous human being.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I like how he said he gets inquiries from NFL staffs about his offense - apparently he is the golden guru of football now.

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They must be blown away by those well placed bubble screens.

I just wish someone would ask him a simple question like "Coach Freeze, you met with a recruit with a booster present on more than one occasion. You had to know this broke some of the most basic NCAA recruiting rules so how do you pass this off as a "mistake"??

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Originally Posted by K9 Avenger

Freeze is a classic sociopath....no conscience...a charmer who believes his own lies....really a dangerous human being.

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To me, he is the exact type of personality that you get with a Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggert, folks that feel they are doing the Lord's work and no matter what their actions are (right or wrong) they always have it justified in their own mind so that they seemingly feel very little guilt about it and will claim innocence until they are shown to be a liar, backed in a corner and they finally know the gig is up. So far with this Freeze is essentially skating by with either claiming ignorance or that the staff didn't cheat but made some "mistakes". Will be very difficult to ever pin him down to where he would admit to anything he has done or known about as actual cheating.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

To me, he is the exact type of personality that you get with a Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggert, folks that feel they are doing the Lord's work and no matter what their actions are (right or wrong) they always have it justified in their own mind so that they seemingly feel very little guilt about it and will claim innocence until they are shown to be a liar, backed in a corner and they finally know the gig is up. So far with this Freeze is essentially skating by with either claiming ignorance or that the staff didn't cheat but made some "mistakes". Will be very difficult to ever pin him down to where he would admit to anything he has done or known about as actual cheating.

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I was going to post the same thing about Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. Those that remember those two will remember how they acted before the facts were exposed. Smug and confident. Then, epic meltdowns.

Any time a grown man says that another grow man wrote a sweet letter to him something is wrong with that man.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I like how he said he gets inquiries from NFL staffs about his offense - apparently he is the golden guru of football now.

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Wonder if they taught him to go for it on 4th and 1 in his own territory with only 3 minutes left in the half? OR put an All-American DE in as a RB?

Freeze is not difficult to figure out. He is simply an egotistical dipshit that goes out of his way to manipulate as many people he can to look at him as nothing less than perfection.

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Originally Posted by thf24

That's got to be among the most boldface lies he's told. No one in the NFL is interested in a 6 play cookie cutter offense.

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Well Gus Malzhan and Art Briles have made similar claims. Maybe a team or two in the NFL has asked some questions, maybe not.

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Originally Posted by K9 Avenger

Freeze is a classic sociopath....no conscience...a charmer who believes his own lies....really a dangerous human being.

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I use to think he was always doing things on purpose a few years back but at this point I think he just really believes in what he is saying. I mean the man does the oddest things. Calling other coaches to make sure you have them backing you through ncaa cases, still having phone conversations with Chris Jones supposedly, creeping around highschools for talent and having to be escorted off when families don't want him present. I think he just really is drinking his own koolaid. You described him perfectly.

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Originally Posted by LockeDawg

Well Gus Malzhan and Art Briles have made similar claims. Maybe a team or two in the NFL has asked some questions, maybe not.

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"So, coach, tell us about your bubble screens..." *proceeds to set the phone down and go take a nap*

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Check out this tweet: https://twitter.com/zacellis/status/753631440928174080

Wonder if Les hung up the phone and said, "wtf did he call me, who t f does he think he is?"

This guy is a professional politician but I can't figure out his personality. He's definitely got some Jeffery Dahmer in him.

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You think he's capable of eating people?

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Originally Posted by OlePissSux

I use to think he was always doing things on purpose a few years back but at this point I think he just really believes in what he is saying. I mean the man does the oddest things. Calling other coaches to make sure you have them backing you through ncaa cases, still having phone conversations with Chris Jones supposedly, creeping around highschools for talent and having to be escorted off when families don't want him present. I think he just really is drinking his own koolaid. You described him perfectly.

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Big day for you today, huh? Congrats. Don't get too excited though. This ain't the last chapter by a long sight.

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Originally Posted by scottycameron

Big day for you today, huh? Congrats. Don't get too excited though. This ain't the last chapter by a long sight.

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Yeah I just stated in another thread that more was coming.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I don't think Freeze is acting. I think he's a narcissist and maybe somewhat of a sociopath. He's not struggling because he's trying to maintain a public persona at odds with his private persona. Very few people that pull off something like he is pulling off without believing their own bullshit. He really thinks that what he's doing isn't cheating (and not in the sense that he feels like players should be payed so there's no harm; I think he really believes that what they do basically falls in an unidentified exception that should apply to him for whatever reason) and I think is actually surprised and bothered that other coaches think of him as dirty. He's actually struggling because he feels like he's not getting the admiration he deserves and he really doesn't understand why he is being singled out for no reason, so the only explanation is that it is a test from god or the devil.

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i agree with this. Been stabbed in the back and messed over by more than one of these dipshits in my life. They cry out in pain every time they hit you over they hit you over the head with a bible......

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Originally Posted by LockeDawg

Well Gus Malzhan and Art Briles have made similar claims. Maybe a team or two in the NFL has asked some questions, maybe not.

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I don't believe it from those guys either. What better way than to give validation to your non-traditional, simplistic system by claiming the pro league likes it?

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Originally Posted by OlePissSux

I use to think he was always doing things on purpose a few years back but at this point I think he just really believes in what he is saying. I mean the man does the oddest things. Calling other coaches to make sure you have them backing you through ncaa cases, still having phone conversations with Chris Jones supposedly, creeping around highschools for talent and having to be escorted off when families don't want him present. I think he just really is drinking his own koolaid. You described him perfectly.

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Did anyone hear the story about Freeze that Brandon Walker told about Freeze the other day on Keep it 100. Said he has a friend on the West Point coaching staff that a year or two ago saw Freeze somewhere local there visiting or checking out a prospect and apparently about that exact same time Freeze tweeted out he was doing something in AMORY. So on twitter this coach called him out on it and said he just saw him in West Point. Apparently Freeze denied it and went back and forth with the guy a little bit and the WP guy told BW he thought it was over. Well NO! Freeze apparently called the HC at WP about this assistant telling him a bunch of crap to try and get the guy in trouble with his own employer. Freeze is a piece of work for sure.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Did anyone hear the story about Freeze that Brandon Walker told about Freeze the other day on Keep it 100. Said he has a friend on the West Point coaching staff that a year or two ago saw Freeze somewhere local there visiting or checking out a prospect and apparently about that exact same time Freeze tweeted out he was doing something in AMORY. So on twitter this coach called him out on it and said he just saw him in West Point. Apparently Freeze denied it and went back and forth with the guy a little bit and the WP guy told BW he thought it was over. Well NO! Freeze apparently called the HC at WP about this assistant telling him a bunch of crap to try and get the guy in trouble with his own employer. Freeze is a piece of work for sure.

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Thats when he was recruiting Aeris Williams. Thats the one I was talking about in my previous post. They had to escort him out and tell him to leave constantly at WP. The family was basically begging him not to come around because Aeris had his mind made up. Thats how he works though. Get the kid away from family and get him alone to sway him with boosters. Also if that player has a family member that needs monetary help they will go through them.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I don't think Freeze is acting. I think he's a narcissist and maybe somewhat of a sociopath. He's not struggling because he's trying to maintain a public persona at odds with his private persona. Very few people that pull off something like he is pulling off without believing their own bullshit. He really thinks that what he's doing isn't cheating (and not in the sense that he feels like players should be payed so there's no harm; I think he really believes that what they do basically falls in an unidentified exception that should apply to him for whatever reason) and I think is actually surprised and bothered that other coaches think of him as dirty. He's actually struggling because he feels like he's not getting the admiration he deserves and he really doesn't understand why he is being singled out for no reason, so the only explanation is that it is a test from God or the devil.

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