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The CL and DJ just deadpanned this article..
"Are these multiple isolated incidents?" says Buckner, the independent lawyer. "Or is there a pattern of behavior or one or two networks involved? Is there coordination between coaches and boosters? Or were they independent? If I were a hearing panel member, I'd be concerned about it."
Boom
Damn good article
Kugh Hell-a-burger about to be on 105.9 after given time to digest this....
For all the vitriol The Faithful* were spewing on Twitter about this article, it ranks as a big "eh". I don't think anything new was learned, and confirmed a lot of what we already knew - Kiffin is dumb enough to leave a social media/text trail. I do think his conclusion that this is a watershed moment for the NCAA is dead on.
Is this "THE" article that was rumored to be coming out?
Look for Kiffin to get a show cause
is this the big article? Kinda weak. Most of this stuff we already knew
I thought there was an article that was supposed to come out with quotes from former OM recruits...Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
supposed to be another I think- but I can't 100% say soQuote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
That confirmed stuff that Coach and Rosebowl have been saying, but nothing really new there, FOR US. Now for the rest of the world there is a lot new there. Good article.
Why in the hell has kiffin not "resigned" to pursue other endeavors. Stupid on their part.
Article wasn't weak at all- it eliminated the He said/she said OM defense. Miller has texts implicating Kiffin- that's a huge no-no
I hope not. This didn't say much of anything new for the overall scope, and in fact, lays out some pretty crappy possibilities for OM to skate on some infractions.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
I was hoping for much more than that, particularly considering how long the article is.
You are focusing on the lack of new information. The important part of that story is the info Miller gave NCAA, some of which appears to be verified already and some of which has not. And that kiffin won't survive this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScreenCaptureThis
I don't want the rodent to survive this either.
Underwhelmed
There's another one coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
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"This is a very serious case," says Michael Buckner, a Florida-based attorney who frequently works on NCAA cases but is unaffiliated with this one. "The number of Level I violations involved (16 overall, eight in football) coupled with the number of coaches and boosters involved. Those are all very serious violations that threaten the integrity of the sport."
The NCAA is going to go in om dry. There is no other choice.Quote:
"[Does the NCAA] stick to their guns like they said a few years ago and hold the head coach accountable?" asked a veteran SEC head coach. "Or is the NCAA going to wipe their hands of this? If they do, it's going to turn college football into college basketball, which is a free for all. They need to make a damn statement, sooner or later."
Who do you think the "veteran" sec coach was they quoted? Saban? Doesn't sound like miles.
Fantastic, will be interesting to see how it plays out. No way Kiffin survives this. Quiet honestly I am surprised he has not already been fired.
Actually, on second read, the paragraphs above and below the pictures of the Tunsil video are pretty damning!
Wait, let me get this straight... Miller said
Among the things Miller says he told the NCAA: Ole Miss had an intricate system in which the school arranged for Tunsil and his family through boosters to get loans, money and free lodging at hotels and residences around Oxford, Miss. He claims he told the NCAA of benefits that spanned nearly three years.
And your response is "meh"?
Hell, how can it get worse?!?
I don't think Freeze survives this. His chances of coaching at om in 2017 have gone drastically south.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
This stood out to me.Quote:
In February, Ole Miss athletic director Ross Bjork incorrectly claimed that the investigation was over in an interview with the The Clarion Ledger, a statement NCAA officials viewed as inappropriate.
Love that SI is essentially calling the NCAA out... Either drop the hammer or just get out the way
Is this the "big one" that everybody was buzzing about?
To me, this is very important to keep in mind. Good post!Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
What is worse than an institutionalized system of getting players money, in which coaches and boosters are involved in?
Yep. Ms polingo better be able to show the "money she and Lindsay had saved" to up and move to Oxford. Consider that along with tunsils messages to Barney asking for money to pay moms bills. The NCAA ain't that stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Exactly. I had not heard about miller showing the NCAA texts confirming housing assistance. Apparently Tunsil's mom is still on the network payroll. Miller's texts prove she's lying. Now I can quit bitchin bout the Oxford house.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Olemiss is going to go down harder than Frazier.
I really hope Saban is the driving force behind this investigation. If Saban wants om to burn, they'll burnQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
We have Ole Miss helping the Tunsils move to Oxford. Well how about that, I guess that makes Sports Illustrated racist. ED was called racist for suggesting that people who lived in an inner city $40,000 house might need some help moving to Oxford.
Says cell phones were collected. Damn, where did we hear that before?
It enumerates a lot of hard evidence from Miller. Objective evidence trumps credibility arguments every time. Sorry, rebels.
We've got a national article zeroing in on how deceptive Ole Miss's public front has been. Bjork was specifically called out for lying to media about the the case. You've got the NCAA agreeing that Ross Bjork's behavior has been inappropriate. So much for "exemplary cooperation".
We've got MSU people turning Ole Miss...wait, that didn't happen. Sorry, rebels.
We've got a national article saying more investigation about Tunsil's draft night revelation is ongoing, despite the impossible claim from rebels that its all over.
We've got a national article saying Ole Miss self-imposed stuff is only a good start. SI is hammering Ole Miss for not so much as firing anybody.
And finally, we've got this national article proclaiming that the NCAA needs to make an example of Ole Miss. The article pretty much says Ole Miss is all-in and has only wrist-slapped itself, whereas the NCAA should to a lot more than that. And they will.
Now that I think about it, a lot of the quotes and whatnot that were initially meant to go along with the article might have been omitted due to the investigation. I'm not sure how it all works, but the NCAA could've stopped all of that somehow. Or the other possibility is that this just simply might not be "THE" article.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScreenCaptureThis
Bank statements a few years before tunsil's recruitment till his signing are probably requested. If she doesn't produce them, the assumption is guilty as chargedQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I found this interesting...
In a statement to SI through a lawyer, she said: "[Miller] continued receiving his pension, child support and military benefits. Why he keeps telling people that Ole Miss promised us something or did something wrong is beyond me, and frankly makes me very angry."
Why is she angry about Miller saying OM did something wrong?
I actually love the tone of the article. Very matter of fact, and covers the Ole Miss side of the story. Rebel folks can't say it was a one-sided article. It was fairly written and fact-based. Those facts are pretty damning. What stood out to me:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
- Miller verified a lot of the stuff in the NOA to the SI writer - showing him texts and messages.
- Independent third party experts categorizing the case as "severe"
- Reminding us that the biggest part of it - the ACT fraud - is irrefutable and two coaches have already gotten show clauses over it
- Quoting a rival SEC coach about wanting the NCAA to make a statement
- Essentially putting pressure on the NCAA to do something because everyone is watching
- The NCAA concerned with Bjork for his comments about the investigation being over
Thamel did a great job here in my opinion.
All content aside, the one thing that this article screams is that the national media has officially condemned Ole Miss. They are guilty by every conceivable metric in the court of public opinion. That can have a significant impact on how the NCAA handles the case. They won't operate like a sequestered jury that is not subject to any outside influence. They will very much be concerned with public perception and the message sent by the penalties, because in the current climate the very function and worth of their entire organization will be under scrutiny. That is what I would be most worried about if I were an OM fan.