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HELL State....MFer!!
First football, now baseball....bad perception.
17in midgett.
We are the kings of lateral moves.
Yea, looks like Manny Diaz has started a trend at MSU of the one year assistant to then make a lateral move.
There are two bad ass former SEC coaches who we should hire: Gaspard and Henderson. Cohen make it happen!
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
**** that dwarf. It's amazing how many assistants we have that make lateral moves
I like the mentality and change of philosophy he brought. I hope we hire someone that continues that philosophy
It's just an uphill fight for us sometime. We keep finding guys that get the homecoming call and there's just not much you can do about that.
Wasn't all that disappointed in Manny, but we will miss Wes
Agree, but the city of Starkville has to step it up. We can't keep quality coaches from other parts of the country with the current school system & politics of Starkville. Sad but trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
Well that sucks. Hurts a lot worse than losing Mingione.
Well, there is going to be a ton of pitching talent here for somebody to work with.
Starkville ain't gonna change enough to overcome those issues. Maybe never.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Why don't we come off some money to keep them? Or is it not a money issue? Something more...
True, but fat chance that happens. They're trying to run a retirement community in a college town and as you mentioned about shitty schools. It seems like we can never get everything on the same page.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Yep, this sucks and it will hurt us next year.
I'm glad someone else besides me sees what the issue is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
**** me! There is literally no way we can upgrade from Mini-Me. Like you, I just hope we bring in someone with a similar approach to what he brought. No more of the "traditional" approach like Butch had.
Damn, I hope Stick at least made a competitive offer.
This is 100% trueQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Well the Cal State coach got a chance to visit Starkville again. Think we might see if he is interested this season since he would have the full offseason this time?
It's not about money. It's going home plus the chance to take over for Van Horn possibly in a few yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
why would he leave a head coaching job?Quote:
Originally Posted by bgover4
Our coaches are desired by others to improve their staffs...how is that a bad perception?Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
How is it bad perception? We've had 4 coaches leave in 8 years 3 left for head jobs. Hardly bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
He from California..If we got him and he has a good year(Which he will with our staff) he would be another to leave for another gig..most likely back in California. We need to focus on someone in this area.
Did we not make an offer to him last offseason? I thought it was their pitching coach we were after. Did he take over the head coaching job? Sorry, I don't follow Cal State baseball that closely.Quote:
why would he leave a head coaching job?
Thanks for relevant input DGD.Quote:
He from California..If we got him and he has a good year(Which he will with our staff) he would be another to leave for another gig..most likely back in California. We need to focus on someone in this area.
Why does him leaving feel like this to me?
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He was referencing the CSF pitching coach. The one we thought we were hiring last year before we ended up with Johnson. Don't know why he would want the job this year though if he turned it down last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Last year we offered him after the off season was about over. Might have been a hangup. Just saying that if we wanted him last year we may still be interested and his outlook may be different too.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Sounded more like he and Cohen didn't geehaw from what I read. Not sure he turned it down or Cohen didn't offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
He is from Jacksonville, AR and came up through the schools in the state. I get what everyone is saying on Starkville, etc but I don't think that was the issue here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
If true it isn't a great move for him, if he wants a head job. I doubt many teams have the freshman pitching talent we have. He'll be a bigger commodity in 2 years.
Cohen wants Henderson. If Cohen wanted to keep Wes there would be an offer made financially that he couldn't refuse. I still say he stays here though because he will be a candidate for a HC position soon.
The man is going back to the home area of his family.....hard to overcome that once a person has that opportunity, plus he may get a shot when the Arky coach leaves/fired or retired,
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Originally Posted by SaintDawg
Henderson? Gaspard? Help me out here? Wasn't gaspard at Bama?
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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
The same reason we're picked to finish last every year in football...perception. Do you really think everybody is going to sit back and analyze why our a sizable portion of our assistants are leaving? Hell no...they'll just see we lost an entire defensive staff in football and all assistant coaches in baseball, with 2 of the guys being in their first year. I mean GD, the one sport we're supposed to be towards the top of the SEC and we have to hear rumors of Cohen to Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
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Yes and he would be an awful hire unless all he did was recruit. He had one of the worst hitting teams in the SEC year most years. Gene Henderson was the HC at UK. He was Cohens pitching coach while Cohen was at UK. I could live with hiring him but I'd rather have a coach who teaches velo like Wes. We don't need a drastic change in philosophy. However I'm still saying Wes stays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Okrastar1
Agreed. I hope the bashing comes from being hurt rather than not liking the coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34