8 runs today- although the defense gave them some help. We are not even giving ourselves a chance on Sunday at this point. We need to throw a Freshman out there and see if he can swim. Brown is not the answer.
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8 runs today- although the defense gave them some help. We are not even giving ourselves a chance on Sunday at this point. We need to throw a Freshman out there and see if he can swim. Brown is not the answer.
And not only that- if we have to get in the pen on a Friday or Saturday- we're ****ed. We are a 3 pitcher team right now.
No doubt. We need someone with an edge that isn't phased by what's going on around them to step up...can mangum pitch?!?!?
Our whole team has the tone set by the Sunday starter. And the tone with Brown is total dogshit. Brown doesn't compete and that in turn affects the whole team which is why we are such a clown troupe on Sunday's. We have to run somebody out there the team has a little confidence in that they will at least compete. They don't have to be Hudson or Sexton but ****ing compete goddammit.
Rigby competes. Start him and chase him with Small who goes right at people. Hump is good for 4-6 hitters. Shit that's 21-24 outs right there. We have the rest of the pen to match up with. Or give Pilkington a chance. Anybody but Brown, Houston, or Tatum.
I still say try Tatum. You'll know in 3 batters if it's good or bad
Sets the tone from the get go. And if he is bad then we are ****ed again. And on top of that he has done absolutely nothing to earn a Sunday start. Just like Houston.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
Only problem starting Rigby is we need him to close on Friday-Sat. Hud and Sexton won't keep going 9
He and Stovall can probably play every position on the field. You can bet your ass he will compete.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
And if he is bad you have given up a run or 2 and he has but the team behind the eight ball..Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
If these 2 guys .. Tatum and Houston can't get outs in blow games or mid week games what makes anyone think they are able to in weekend games with games in the balance..
This is the problem... We have 3 pitchers. Had Hudson or sexton not gone complete games, rigby would've pitched Friday or Saturday and we'd have given up 12 todayQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I know. I'd actually lean to Small and let him rip. And pray like hell Rigby doesn't have to go on a Saturday. As unorthodox as it sounds I wanted Hudson to go Saturday's with the though Sexton may need the pen more than Hudson. You can't think that way thought you just have to find guys that can ****ing compete on Sunday. If you get beat with those guys then so be it at least you competed. Running Brown out there isn't competing bc he won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Run the guys out there that will compete and see what happens.
I have zero issue with starting any of these freshman on Sunday
At least Small ran out there and said ****ing hit me and didn't shit himself.. He wasn't stellar but who has been on Sunday..
He ran it up there 94- 96 ( at least that's what the scoreboard gun said)
I love small's potential. We missed a big opportunity today to try pilkington, breaux, or JamesQuote:
Originally Posted by mic
I would play Sunday by ear. If we haven't used Rigby yet in a weekend, or have only pitching him an inning or so, then we should try to piggy-back him and Pilkington. I'm ok with Brown, but he needs to be used situationally.
If Rigby can't go on Sunday, then I would go with Pilkington and Breaux, even though they're both lefties.
I know this Sunday shit sux, but damn sure like the aforementioned shit from yesteryear that been our mainstay is no longer our regular sec series outing
Brown goes to the back of the line for Sunday..
Just keep running a different guy out there to start. If they can't get the job done.. Back of the line they go..
So who's it gonna be next year?
Small pitched pretty well for an inning. Should have had no runs scored on him too since that Ole Miss player was gunned down at the plate. Would have really really sucked if we had lost 6-5 and the blown ump call would have cost us the game.
We have a number of options. I think Padget, Breaux, and Small will be great starters for us in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by IMissJack
Start Small and let Him get a rhythm. He should be able to go 5 plus easy. Surely he won't do any worse.
I start Houston this Sunday vs Florida. He wants to start so here is his shot. If he sucks, you throw Pilkington one or innings vs Memphis. Then he starts Sunday vs A&M.
Yeah no Breaux today shocked me. I think him, Small, or Pilkington should get the nod. 3 missed sweep opportunities because we can't find a 3rd starter is awful. It's clearly not Daniel Brown. Let Breaux, Small, or Pilk take a run at it.
Pitching by committee will never get you anywhere. Coach Cohen is just going to have to go to one of the guys who he thinks can get the job done and tell him YOU ARE IT and stick with him. This will give the team some sort of Consistency and help the defense adjust to his style of pitching.
For me, I go Small 100% and tell him he's going 5.
Guys, this is just like having Trevor Fitts on Sundays a couple of years ago. He could go out there and give you 5 decent innings, or need to be pulled after 25 pitches. You never knew what you were going to get. It is what it is, and that team turned out to be pretty good. As long as we can keep holding serve on Fridays and Saturdays, I'm fine with having a swinging gate from the bullpen if the Sunday starter can't produce. We will be alright.
REvery word about Brown I agree with 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
I understand why you feel the way you do about Houston but I think part of the problem there is Houston is better as a starting pitcher and Brown is better out of the bullpen in short relief. I think that's why Brown doesn't compete- he's trying to hold something back for the second- third time through the order. He only has two decent pitches.
The last time Houston started he struck out 10 and walked one. Yes against crap competition but he went five innings and has at least as good a chance as some of the freshmen at succeeding
And I could be totally wrong about Houston- I'd only ask 3-5 innings out of him- but I think it's worth finding out at this point because I don't think Pilkington is ready and Keegan showed us he wasn't last weekend.
I'd kill for Trevor Fitts starting on Sundays right now. Brown reminds me of Lindgren starting in 2013 but worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabaka
Bad idea. He has gotten hit hard after going one. That's why his ERA is through the roof.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Brown has made every start except for last week. Consistency has been the problem in this case. I'm 90% sure they are going with Pilkington on Sundays going forward anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I still think my idea about going with Houston would be better but USM is fairly comparable to an average SEC team and if we get that kind of a performance out of our staff on Sunday- I'll take it.
I disagree. He's not a bullpen guy. Been told some of those times he went in he didn't even get to throw 5 pitches before he came in. Gotta use the strengths of the pitchers. Small competes. He can go 5. He did it against our hitters all fall and spring. It's time to start him and let him give it a go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Small could give us 3-4 innings in a start. We haven't gotten that on Sunday yet
The answer seems obvious to me, Pilkington
What about Noah Hughes?
move the rotation around? Say, move Hudson and/or Sexton back a day. You have to know those two guys are going to have a poor performance sooner or later. Could that somewhat be mitigated by moving one or both of these guys around a day or two? Just trying to think of something because our pitching is shit after our first two guys.
Dude he hit 98 today.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
pitched well against Vandy but I seriously doubt he could consistently to that.
Reading this thread, its obvious this board is as confused about who should be thrown out there on Sunday as Cohen and Johnson are.
We've had a chance to sweep all 3 series. I wouldn't change a thing the 1st 2 gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Is Jared Padgett hurt?
Hughes or Breaux