Straight talk on Lashley from West Point...

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"Mullen never visited- not once. Hevesy showed one damn time"
"LSU came by 4 different times"
Alabama came 3 times to see him"
"Saban and Miles both came to West Point- but not Dan Mullen- who is 20 minutes away"

This is the laziness I've been telling you about. We are lazy recruiters and want to depend too much on others to do the work for us- like Johnny Cooks and State guys on the WP staff. Our coaches have got to put in more effort. They arent putting in the "Strain" in recruiting. No "relentless effort". But they want it out of everybody else.

John Hevesy you are stealing from my University. You ****ing suck you ****ing douchebag. Go recruit and get some talent upfront you sorry POS. You owe T-Buck about 50K for getting Reese you lazy mf'er.

I'm so pissed at Mullen, that is complete crap

It's got nothing to do with your post but "strain" is the stupidest shit ever! I'd go somewhere else just because of that.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

These are quotes:

"Mullen never visited- not once. Hevesy showed one damn time"
"LSU came by 4 different times"
Alabama came 3 times to see him"
"Saban and Miles both came to West Point- but not Dan Mullen- who is 20 minutes away"

This is the laziness I've been telling you about. We are lazy recruiters and want to depend too much on others to do the work for us- like Johnny Cooks and State guys on the WP staff. Our coaches have got to put in more effort. They arent putting in the "Strain" in recruiting. No "relentless effort". But they want it out of everybody else.

John Hevesy you are stealing from my University. You ****ing suck you ****ing douchebag. Go recruit and get some talent upfront you sorry POS. You owe T-Buck about 50K for getting Reese you lazy mf'er.

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How often are the coaches allowed to visit? I'm reading that the head coach can only visit once. Is this correct? How about the assistants?

It hard to believe that's real. I believe it is but that's beyond lazy and irresponsible if true

The toilets are getting jealous

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Originally Posted by Coach34

These are quotes:

"Mullen never visited- not once. Hevesy showed one damn time"
"LSU came by 4 different times"
Alabama came 3 times to see him"
"Saban and Miles both came to West Point- but not Dan Mullen- who is 20 minutes away"

This is the laziness I've been telling you about. We are lazy recruiters and want to depend too much on others to do the work for us- like Johnny Cooks and State guys on the WP staff. Our coaches have got to put in more effort. They arent putting in the "Strain" in recruiting. No "relentless effort". But they want it out of everybody else.

John Hevesy you are stealing from my University. You ****ing suck you ****ing douchebag. Go recruit and get some talent upfront you sorry POS. You owe T-Buck about 50K for getting Reese you lazy mf'er.

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not arguing, but do you really believe Mullen never visited him at home or the school?

If that is true, the only explanation is Mullen didn't want him.

And that makes no sense either.

Yep that's the same stuff I've heard. Just pathetic. I'm almost to the point where apathy is about to set in. My dad said when we hired Mullen he wouldn't recruit well. I asked why and he said because he's an arrogant Yankee asshole. Well dad you were right again. Just go read Tebow's book. He said when he took his official visit to Florida Dan told him it didn't matter who the qb was because his system is so great.

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

It hard to believe that's real. I believe it is but that's beyond lazy and irresponsible if true

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I agree...
Shit just stop by a few times after you finish playing 18 at old waverly..

If true, can this be used to fire someone for cause and not owe the rest of their contract?

Not advocating that we should fire Mullen, but we do seem to be paying 4.5 mil a year for this effort.

So, if the program goes to hell, could this be used to fire him for cause? Isn't there a minimal amount of effort someone must show in their job?

Lastly, if true, this says a lot about Mullen's character as a person in general. You have to have no conscience to accept the pay checks he is receiving and not give effort in you me job.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

not arguing, but do you really believe Mullen never visited him at home or the school?.

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I believe it as if Pick said it to me- came straight from their staff.

People dont realize my Dad was from West Point- and my Grandmother lived there until the day she died. They knew the Bryan's.

Seems like Mullen is running the coaching staff, like a private sales business where the CEO brings his brother (Hevesy) in as Vice- President of Sales, although his brother has no interest in sales (recruiting) or winning over customers (recruits and their families).

After Hevesy watched our tackle situation this year I figured he'd be offering to cook the family meals every night.

Did we secretly think he's Damien Robinson 2.0 or something?

Something just doesn't make sense. I know for a fact Mullen saw Simmons and worked him hard. He's well liked by the family. It just doesn't make sense unless like spider said he just didn't want him which doesn't make sense either. Strange.

When I posted Months ago what some Highschool Coaches thought of Hev and our coaches vs the Rebs , I was told I,didn't know what I was talking about. Most HS coaches don't even want Hev to walk in the door. And Mullen has turned off many recruits and their Families, that is one reason HUD was glad to leave.

So, is this consistent with how AJ was recruited as well?

Did Mullen just blow off both these cats, Coach? I know that Saban was HAMMERING AJ early on and Lashley late....

Idk if I buy this.

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"I don't think I'm going to take an official to Mississippi State because it's right down the road and I've been there so much."

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He said it himself he has been to State a lot.

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In addition to his upcoming official visits, Lashley has already had a couple of in-home visits with both Mississippi State (John Hevesy) and LSU (Jeff Grimes) stopping by.

"Those were good," he said. "My grandma, she really likes Coach Grimes from LSU a lot. He's a good guy. Both were the same things. It's really about me learning the position. Both of them like my ability as far as athleticism and both liked what I do on the field because they saw me play before."

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From another interview:

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"It always feels good to be back over at State and it is good to get to talk with Coach Hevesy and other prospects," said Lashley. "And I basically talked to the whole staff and they all know me over there. It is just a good feeling there and I've been over there so much. It feels like family at State and I always have fun there."

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Another one:

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"I've been to some of Mississippi State's practice this month," said Lashley. "I've been over there so much that I already know a lot of things they do in practice like their techniques and footwork drills and their steps. I have all of that down pat. And Coach Hevesy is a high-intensity guy when he coaches his guys. Watching them practice a lot, I think Mississippi State is underrated just like they were last year. They have a chip on their shoulders and they're putting in work."

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Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 27
Had ah great visit yesterday with MSU #Hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 20
Great visit from Coach Hevesy #msu #hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ 29 Nov 2015
Great inhome visit today #msu #hailstate

So that is at least three times visited him.

Ask your sources about the Crimson Toyota Tundra

But we cant visit him more than once per conpliance?***

Could just be 2 kids (lashley and aj) justifying their decision to their pro-state community

I also wonder if this is why Mullen keeps losing defensive coaches?

I wonder if new guys come on this staff and see the favoritism attitude that Mullen shows towards "his boys" which all coach on offense, and the defensive guys feel like 2nd rate citizens in the building.

I don't know what the problem is, but I want answers. This CANNOT happen again and Mullen must bring stability to the staff.

The coaching staff needs come together and figure this out.

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Originally Posted by Big4Dawg

Idk if I buy this.



He said it himself he has been to State a lot.



From another interview:



Another one:



Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 27
Had ah great visit yesterday with MSU #Hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 20
Great visit from Coach Hevesy #msu #hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ 29 Nov 2015
Great inhome visit today #msu #hailstate

So that is at least three times visited him.

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Hmm. Yeah, it appears that Lashley was lying in the interview coach posted. Still though, after reading this, HTF did we lose Lashley?

Good lord, he basically allowed Bama to win him over right at the end. I hope he thought through his decision, cause he has to live with it.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I believe it as if Pick said it to me- came straight from their staff.

People dont realize my Dad was from West Point- and my Grandmother lived there until the day she died. They knew the Bryan's.

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Oooooo...... they knew the Bryans. LOL

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Hmm. Yeah, it appears that Lashley was lying in the interview coach posted. Still though, after reading this, HTF did we lose Lashley?

Good lord, he basically allowed Bama to win him over right at the end. I hope he thought through his decision, cause he has to live with it.

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I don't understand this part.... what is it he "has to live with"?...

you mean leaving the state, or choosing Bammer?

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Originally Posted by Big4Dawg

Idk if I buy this.



He said it himself he has been to State a lot.



From another interview:



Another one:



Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 27
Had ah great visit yesterday with MSU #Hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 20
Great visit from Coach Hevesy #msu #hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ 29 Nov 2015
Great inhome visit today #msu #hailstate

So that is at least three times visited him.

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Yeah something not adding up here. Him saying all that lets you know some of these stories coming out aren't completely accurate. It makes no sense for some players to love Mullen and then others to say he showed me no love. Of course the ones saying state coaches showed them no love are the ones that signed somewhere else. Sounds like they're rationalizing their decision.

The coaches were talking visits at school- thats just how many times they visited at WPHS. Obviously there was more at home by all teams. They go above and beyond- we dont

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I don't understand this part.... what is it he "has to live with"?...

you mean leaving the state, or choosing Bammer?

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His heart was always with State until 3 days ago.

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Originally Posted by Big4Dawg

Idk if I buy this.



He said it himself he has been to State a lot.



From another interview:



Another one:



Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 27
Had ah great visit yesterday with MSU #Hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ Jan 20
Great visit from Coach Hevesy #msu #hailstate

Scott. ‏@Swagg3rFLOCKa_ 29 Nov 2015
Great inhome visit today #msu #hailstate

So that is at least three times visited him.

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Looks like you bought a load of BS, 34. No suprise there.

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Originally Posted by Big4Dawg

His heart was always with State until 3 days ago.

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ah, I didn't realize he flipped... I thought he was uncommitted... But, I didn't follow him very closely....

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Originally Posted by TUSK

ah, I didn't realize he flipped... I thought he was uncommitted... But, I didn't follow him very closely....

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he didnt flip- he wasnt committed to us because we are lazy recruiters

What's the story behind him committing to State on May 18th and de-committing the next day? Something was fishy about that.

He coaches games the same damn way, why is anyone surprised at this?

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Ask your sources about the Crimson Toyota Tundra

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Hmmm. No kidding??

You know who my source is and he said Scott's a damn lie. He said just last week he visited Scott at his house because he sat at the table with them. Said Mullen has been to his house on more than one occasion. Said Scott has also say in dans office multiple times. We got outbid, period. Was told his mom was greedy!

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Originally Posted by MSUDeltadawg1971

You know who my source is and he said Scott's a damn lie. He said just last week he visited Scott at his house because he sat at the table with them. Said Mullen has been to his house on more than one occasion. Said Scott has also say in dans office multiple times. We got outbid, period. Was told his mom was greedy!

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Now this makes sense!

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Originally Posted by DancingRabbit

What's the story behind him committing to State on May 18th and de-committing the next day? Something was fishy about that.

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His mom wasn't with him and Heav and Dan got him to commit. Mama threw a fit, his not real uncle straightened it out and talked to Dan. Scott de-committed because mama wanted him to visit places he had never been and assured my friend he was a lock. She got greedy in the end.

Shotgun, if you won't, I will. I say Mullen has to be fired. I don't know if we can afford to pay him another $1.2m so that he will include recruiting in his duties as head ball coach.

I don't know what the truth is, but a lot of lies are being told by some people. Elitedawgs hasn't really helped a whole lot by promoting the perception of Mullen being lazy/checked out. Again, don't know what the truth is, and I'm sure it lies somewhere in-between.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Ask your sources about the Crimson Toyota Tundra

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we ran outta Dodge Chargers.

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Originally Posted by MSUDeltadawg1971

You know who my source is and he said Scott's a damn lie. He said just last week he visited Scott at his house because he sat at the table with them. Said Mullen has been to his house on more than one occasion. Said Scott has also say in dans office multiple times. We got outbid, period. Was told his mom was greedy!

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my post was about visits at school- not about his house. Focus people