I'm telling y'all, you're jumping the gun if you think D Lee overtakes Shumpert this year. Shumpert is going to have a big season.
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I'm telling y'all, you're jumping the gun if you think D Lee overtakes Shumpert this year. Shumpert is going to have a big season.
Any specifics??Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I think Shunpert is very good. D Lee reminds me a ton of Vick Ballard. He will be a BEAST.
100% agree. Shumpert is an extremely hard worker and came on towards the end of the season. It's always funny to hear and read people annoiting guys who've never played a game. Shumpert is not chopped liver, the guy is legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
He ran by some guys in shorts and shirts today and didn't get tackled during a no-contact drill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treemydawg
I honestly don't care which one becomes a stud as long as one of them does. I've never understood the inclination a lot of fans have to pump up one of or own players at the expense of another. I love the potential of Shumpert, Williams, and Lee. I trust at least one of them will break out and be very good.
We're always looking for the next big game breaker.
Not sure this means anyone here doesn't have the highest hopes for Shump. Personally, I'd love it of he gained 1200 yards and 20 touchdowns. I just want the other guys getting snaps to get 800 yards and 8-10 TDs. Throw in some scores from Dak and we have the best running game in the SEC.
I think we're loaded at RB. Just open those holes and let these guys get a head of steam going.
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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
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Shump will be the #1 RB & it won't be close.
I saw Shumpert, Williams, and Lee play in high school. The thing that impressed about Shumpert showed up more on defense, he loved to bring the lumber. Williams was probably the most explosive of the three. The thing about Lee was he was just relentless. To me there was nothing that just jumped up and said sure fire SEC but they certainly all had qualities that said they could be that if they put in the work. I'll qualify all of that by saying I only saw each of them play once. Given how we develop players I would expect at the very least one of them to be a very good back in the SEC.
Well there you go. Next topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Shump's only minus is finding the hole naturally. hopefully he does a better job of it now that he has a chance to be the man. He has great hands, is a blocking machine, knows the offense very well, and plays with max effort.
The thing I want to see from Shumpert is field vision. He needs to look for space as a RB and find it rather than always trying to find someone to run over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
He runs too upright and he stalls at the line of scrimmage instead of just bursting forward. Unless he's going to suddenly be able to instantly read the field he's going to have tons of 1-2 yard carries. I hope I'm wrong but I've got visions of frustrations with Shumpert. He has all the talent in the world but his mechanics are very poor. I want to see a lot of Lee and Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Shumpert ' s running style changed at State because that's what they wanted to see from a young bigger back to counter the scat backs we had at the time. He was not a bowing ball rather a slide and side step back in highschool. He's now returning to that form yet he's adding power to his game. He could be a Marshawn Lynch style back.
I saw some preview the other day and they said Holloway was the likely starter at RB and he was the only RB they mentioned.
A little time at a sorority should take care of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I've heard great things about Nick Gibson
Shump last 5 games last year. 33 car 232 yards 7.03 ypc 2 tds
Yes, best overall back. Yes, he will get the most snaps. He's not going to leave our fans screaming he's a heisman candidate though. He doesn't make people miss and his vision is beyond awful. He will lead us in rushing by a running back- but not by much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Does it bother you that none of the three seem to be a home run threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Exactly- if the vision doesnt improve- Lee and Williams will start to get more and more snapsQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
JRob wasnt a HR threat either- he did okQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
He looks so much quicker and very explosive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treemydawg
As for the other comments in the thread....
I think the "can't run to space, only runs people over" thing has gotten comical on here. Was he not coming in contact with anyone until 7 yds downfield while averaging 7.? Yds per carry in the last 3 games? He was utilized as a blocking back and downhill runner last year, so he played that way...this year he's our feature back, so he will play that way.
Sorry, I was just excited to see his footwork today, and I feel like people are jumping straight to Lee and Aeris and totally passing by Shump when discussing our talent on O. Just thought I would discuss him bc I think he will impress this season.
"Beyond awful"? Ha, come on mane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
his nickname is "blind man"Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Well, since we can't obsess about how our back up QB is actually better than the starter, RB is the natural choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Completely agree. I think he will be our best rb, and I absolutely love his running style. I just thought you might have some inside info on him from today is why I asked any specifics.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
We haven't had a home run threat at RB in Mullen's tenure besides Perk 1st 2yrs but we've done ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I totally disagree. Ballard is the best home run threat Mullen has had so far. He actually had a lot of long TD runs. My word he basically won the Music City Bowl for us with 2 TD runs over 60 yards. And unlike Perk, he never got caught from behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Nobody considered Ballard a HR threat. He wasn't a blazer he was just fast enough. He was a mid 4.6 guy. When someone ask me about HR threat I think of a blazer with breakaway speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Well, he proved himself a HR threat regardless whether anyone considered him one. And he had better top end speed than Perk, that's why he didn't get run down once he broke into the open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Holloway last 5 games last year 19 car 141 yards 7.42 ypc. 1 td and that's without getting a carry in one game and only one carry in two other games. 245 yards at 33 carries for reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Boobie had 5 runs over 40yds his Sr year but I don't consider him a HR threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
It's amazing how quick some fans give up on a player, especially a higher rated one, when they don't set the world on fire the first year or two out of high school. Shumpert has had to adjust to Div 1 SEC football and he needs to improve in some areas but I'm excited to see him as our starter this year. We are expecting our All-American quarterback to improve so why shouldn't we expect our third year running back to improve?
I like the fact that you reference yourself in the 3rd person Dan.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Enter Malik DearQuote:
Originally Posted by rtdawg
Exactly. I hate how shump was portrayed during the year last year. I think he'll be solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
I am afraid the same thing will occur if Aeris doesn't lite the world on fire early on. Development happens; hell it's whT so many folks hang their hat on when discussing Mullen.
Let me add...and I am the biggest Aeris supporter there is; not a better kid as an elite athlete around...but when discussing quickness of feet and shiftiness he is behind shump. He may have better vision tho, which could make up for that.
not that my opinion matters, but Shump scared me more than J Rob...Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
He's got to be a lot faster.
Not in the sense of an Adrian Peterson, but jrob broke off several big runs last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34