I only ask bc Kellenberger has this article trashing dan on the front page of the cl. I'm curious as to what bonner specifically asked.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/s...ssue/30156235/
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I only ask bc Kellenberger has this article trashing dan on the front page of the cl. I'm curious as to what bonner specifically asked.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/s...ssue/30156235/
Don't give him any clicks
How kellenberger of him....
He was asked about his opinion on the state flag, which seems inappropriate to begin with for a head football coach to have to answer when he has fans on both sides of the issue. Just the media being the media and Kellenberger being a shit head.
Dan Mullen is not a politician. Dan Mullen is a football coach in a state whose flag has been thrown under the microscope. Pieces of shit like Kellenberger write biased articles for the benefit of the other big school in the state.
Bucky now has the benefit of knowing how to answer said question and Kellenberger will praise him and trash Mullen again.
That was a weak article. Dan's in a tough spot bc he has no ties to MS (prob not confed flag either) so he really doesn't care. If it was absolute that the flag stood for 'racism' then of course he would come out and blast it. He doesn't have a dog in this fight. Politicians have to walk thin lines on these issues not football coaches.
Thanks. Well if he was just asked his opinion on the flag or the situation as a whole, then I really have no problem with his answer. If he was asked directly whether it should be changed, then yea he was probably avoiding the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
The point is that football coaches shouldn't be answering those types of questions to begin with. Kellenberger and Bonner just want to get in on the state flag story.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Hugh is just being a little bitch as normal. He got his ream..instead of Dan storming the set and demanding the State change the flag or something dramatic, Dan did his damn job and stuck to the prepared statement for the most part. He is a football coach not a politician.
But that of course was Hughs wet dream to get to bash him for not answering how he thought he should of. What an embarrassment of a column.
In this age of media I don't feel like Mississippi State really NEEDS the Clarion-Ledger. Someone in our administration needs to point that out to them. That slob Kellenberger has a hard on for State and especially Mullen. Bonner does a decent job but I would let him know that his access may suffer if all Kellenberger writes about us is negative. I really don't like that asshole.
That's the most Killaburger column ever. How are you going to whine about that response (that was actually pretty straightforward) when you have been in a position to critique institutionally approved racism since you started this job? Like your team is actually called THE REBELS and youre speaking up because Mullen didn't publicly stomp on the flag?
Don't read the column. You won't be able to stop rolling your eyes.
Hamburgler said Mullen "fell apart" on the answer. That's just not true. Not true in any shape or form. Maybe he straddled the fence a bit. But I bet he doesn't give two sh1ts about the flag. He'll damn sure never be a politician,..or a lying OpEd writer. That's to be commended.
That's an editorial piece not a sports piece.
Here's Dan's response that is being called criticized.
"That's a lot for people in Jackson and for the people in Mississippi. I know -- I don't see it very often. We don't have it on our campus up. I do know we're the most diverse campus in the Southeastern Conference. I know the university embraces that diversity as a whole. I certainly embrace that diversity. We're so diverse, they have a Yankee as the head football coach in the Southeastern Conference.
“I think it's something that on a national level is getting an awful lot of attention right now, that people are really looking into how we can make things better in the state of Mississippi. And I hope as a university we're out on the forefront trying to help make things better with the type of school that we have and the diversity we have in our school.”
So, pretty much no matter how Dan answered, it was going to be criticized one way or the other.
This is all because Freeze is about to get reamed over Tunsil.
Dan, how dare you make a joke against yourself instead of talking about the coach who came before you and did his best to run MSU football into the ground... just, how dare you?!
I quit taking the Ledger 15 or 16 years ago due to delivery issues. I bought one a year or so ago. I couldn't believe how bad it had become. The Brits wouldn't even wrap fish with that rag.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
As I was following along on Twitter the response from the National Media seemed to be pretty positive. Lots of affirmative tweet snippets. Here I was thinking he made a good statement and reiterated the Universities position which is pretty strong on the matter.
So glad Kellenburger could set me, and the rest of the media, straight. What would we ever do without the wisdom of the Clarion Ledger.
I'm sure the CL will continue their unbiased reporting by asking Freeze his direct response to all the confederate flags that fly in the Grove
And if he doesn't direct condemn them, I expect another scathing editorial
This is it! The hammer meets the nail!Quote:
Originally Posted by Statefan
I get your point. The question shouldn't be asked, I agree. My point was in regards to his response once the question is asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Exactly...and the microscope on Mullen continued on Head2Head. Little dick can't help himself and criticizes Mullen for the smallest things. I bet his attitude is completely different for the reverends day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgcentral
Maybe Brother Freeze will get asked about his feelings on gay marriage....
Hugh wasnt the only media member to down Dan for his response. Our good friend Neal McCready also had a smartass comment to make.
That would be funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
Just curious, do our writers take those kind of shots at freeze and company? Or do they stay above that?
We don't have writers. We have Bonner.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Touche. I kind of like being hated. Makes it all the better when we win to know that it ruins mcreadys day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Why the "F" did Dan even address the question???
He should have just tilted up his visor, melted the infidel's soul with laser beams from his eyes, and said "Next question, aight?"....
oh, and ban him from the campus, too.
Kellenberger's not their beat writer any more he's a columnist. That's why it pisses me off even more. The columnist for the main newspaper in the state likes to take shots at us. All our players and coaches should just do like Marshawn Lynch and not answer any questions from the C-L until this dickhead stops with the dickheadedness.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
The good news is it's the Clarion Ledger. Not many people are going to see it.
What did cross and mcready say negative about dan's answers?
I watched the whole thing live and my response was, as usual, that dan said nothing earth shattering for the good or the bad. It was the usual bland speach he typically gives...just like every other coach. Were they mad that he kept referencing the bama game as the biggest loss? It did decide the west...
As far as the flag question I thought it was a dumb question and as a fan I really don't give 2 shits about how he feels on the issue. He's not an elected official he's a football coach.
If i may, can i ask the two part question kellenburger was sent to ask but he chickened out?
Dan: what liberal carpetbagger input do you have concerning the primary symbol the university you wont name flew and remains a part of Mississippi's state flag? .....AND IF you dont have any liberal carpetbagger views we can use, what mindless bullshit about heritage can you accidentally let blurt out so that the attention from the NCAA can be diverted away from "the confederate army up north"?
Watching it live, I didn't for one split second think, "Oh, maybe that could've been answered better." I honestly took it as him saying, "The flag doesn't stand for what Mississippi State as an institution stands for. We embrace diversity, we celebrate and welcome it, so its a non-issue for us."
Like I said in another thread, the CL reporter already knew the answer so why ask it. He had only one reason and I think most of us know. Whey watching the SEC network and watching the ticker on the bottom that is basically all it says.
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Originally Posted by RDawg90
Great post, dude. I thought literally the exact same thing.
Unfortunately, Kellenberger wasn't the only one to take that view. This one is more concerning, since people actually read CBS: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...sissippi-flags
Though it's not quite as far-reaching as the CL's.
Spurrier got asked that question straight up, but he's been fairly outspoken for a long time about it coming down and made no mess about saying it should come down.
To me if you ask that question to a coach, he's the only one you ask it to. Freeze comes in a close 2nd because of them being the Rebels, but even to me this is a sports convention, not a political roasting and you don't ask Freeze that question. Spurrier I guess I can see with it being in his state, but again this isn't a political convention. It's a sports convention. It to me is an out of line question.
I don't get it.
What more does he have to say? Do these dumbasses need it spelled out???? He certainly didn't avoid the question nor support the current flag with his statement.
CBS was much more professional in its assessment of what Mullen said. I still don't think they got the correct meaning, but they didn't go full on stupid like Kellenberger.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn one day. That the rebel power brokers have a incentive program for "journalist". There is just to many similarities in the writing regarding MSU.
I do agree they were more professional about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Though this part did intrigue me:
"He knew it was coming, because The Clarion-Ledger has made it clear to both MSU and Ole Miss that it is interested in their coaches’ thoughts on the Confederate symbol still being a part of the state flag and would use this week to ask Mullen and Hugh Freeze."
That sounds to me like Hugh is really more upset that he just got a regurgitation of the official MSU statement. I'm thinking he was hoping by asking it at Media Days that the CL would be able to lead in the "coaches want it changed" story, but then with Dan kind of dancing around it he didn't get that. He probably wrote the article out of a bit of frustration which should have been detected by the editor. Unfortunately, with online media today the "get it out quickly" usually overrides the "maybe this should be changed up a bit."
And at least he tried to tie it to sports: "It’s important not only because they’re leaders in the state but also because the NCAA will not allow postseason events to be played in Mississippi because of the flag."