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Kendall would be the obvious choice, but if we use him, I don't know he can recover in time for the 3 games championship series.
If we have to face Indiana - Pollo is a fastball guy, they will hit him well.
If we have to face OSU - They've already seen Kendall.
Let Cox or Gentry start with a really short leash, then Ross ?
How about lindgren with a short leash? Not sure who I would go with.
If you go Kendall Friday he will pitch again before this thing is over, he's available for championship series. If you skip him Friday you only get for really one more outing. The only other way he pitches is in some kind of short relief role. I think you have to pitch him Friday and then he can start game 2 or 3.
I think you've gotta try Lindy with a short leash, go straight to Ross, then let Bracewell finish.
I think you have to go Graveman, regardless of opponent.
I think this is the way to go right hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Hump4Hoops
Graveman and keep his pitches down unless he is just absolutely dealing. Then Ross/Bracewell/Holder.
not spitting in the face of someones religion? A bit insensitive, no? Are you just trying to be an ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hump4Hoops
The season is 2 games long at this point. Graveman (our best option as a starter) needs to throw one of those games. If he throws the first game he has an opportunity to come back for championship series- assuming we make it.
To be fair, I practice a religion that worships Marco Rubio. It is a sin to take his name in vain. It is also a sin to display his Most Holy image in public. You are breaking both the 4th and 11th commandments handed down by his Most Holy Padre Rubio.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcoRubio
Please change your username and avatar as well. Or, just grow a pair. It's the internet.
I'm sorry science offends you. troll. This is not the correct board for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcoRubio
Good grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcoRubio
Bench Mobb.
He's trying to be an ass.
I'd be down to see Lindgren get a shot.
Graveman all day. Not even a choice.
I might be also. A lot would depend on how he has thrown in bullpen sessions the last week or two. The one problem is if you are going to use Graveman, I would rather use him Friday rather than Saturday. I do not want to lose Friday without Graveman, then burn Graveman on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will James
I think you have to look at the rest of the bracket as well as the opponent. We will play Friday. Then maybe Saturday , Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. That's maybe 5 games in 6 days. I thnk we have to be ready to throw everyone.
I'd like to see us pitch everyone and have a short leash and a pitch count (40-50).
Friday - Graveman (vs IU) or Bracewell (vs OSU) / Ross / Holder
Saturday - Fitts (or Graveman or Bracewell) /Girodo / Holder
Monday - Pollo or Fitts or Bracewell or Lindgen / Ross / Holder
Tuesday - ???
Wednesday - Johnny Wholestaff
More like he's just affirming that he is an ass. He doesn't have to try. **Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
In my opinion we will need more from the SP in a CWS best of 3 played on consecutive days. Lindgren, when on, is easily our most effective starter. He gives up less fly balls than Kendall. Starting Kendall On Friday makes me doubt his effectiveness going on Mon OR Tues. that would only be 2 and 3 days rest. We have to start looking at what will give us the best chance to win it all.
Therefore I feel that Graveman has to throw Game 1 Monday, hopefully against a non-ace. Advantage State. Then we come back with Fitts/Pollo for game 2 vs their ace and pray, and Game 3 again with our best guy if he's on Lindgren who will be well rested against a non-ace and hopefully depleted pen.
So I say Lindgren Friday. Graveman Monday. Fitts/Pollo Tues. Lindgren Wed.
[QUOTE=Will James;22415]In my opinion we will need more from the SP in a CWS best of 3 played on consecutive days. Lindgren, when on, is easily our most effective starter. He gives up less fly balls than Kendall. Starting Kendall On Friday makes me doubt his effectiveness going on Mon OR Tues. that would only be 2 and 3 days rest. We have to start looking at what will give us the best chance to win it all. QUOTE]
Couldn't agree less. You have to GET to the championship series before you try to win it all. Do whatever it takes to get there and then make your adjustments.
I can live with that. Here is my question. Assuming we went with the above but lost on Friday. Who would you then pitch on Saturday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Will James
Couldn't agree less. You have to GET to the championship series before you try to win it all. Do whatever it takes to get there and then make your adjustments
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Originally Posted by MarcoRubio
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I agree. Kind of. I thnk you have to play your best chance to win Friday as it gives you such an advantage for the Champ series.
However, without knowing who we are playing it is much harder. The best case for us would be to take care of business on Friday and have a forced extra game from the other side of the bracket. In any case, our greatest advantage is no one knows who is coming out of the pen until they walk through the gate. I'm sure that makes the other teams crazy. I hope for Friday we put Evan Mitchell, Myles Gentry, Will Cox and Shelly in the pen to warm up for a while.
You cant make it to the finals if you don't win one on Friday. I guess we probably start Graveman the second game on Friday if we even have to play it. Hopefully staff will get it done in the first game
First game on Friday. Second game (if necessary) would be Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hometowndawg
You of all people. You will ridicule Ole Miss relentlessly for being racist, yet you want people to relax when a religion is insulted? Hypocrite.
This shouldn't be a discussion. Graveman goes Friday. He's rested and we have to win Friday to have the best chance to win the whole thing. Then he is available for short innings on Tuesday if we are in an elimination scenario or can go in game 3 as the starter in a winner take all. Also it doesn't make a flying shit who we play. If the pitcher executes it doesn't matter the team he faces. Play against the game not against a team.
Aint nobody insulting a religion. Untwist those panties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
If Graveman is ready, you have to throw him. We are severely limited with starting pitching. Therefore, we want to use the only reliable starter that we have as much as possible. Allow Graveman, the senior, to put us on his shoulders. Quick hook in favor of Ross Mitchell and Bracewell, though. Keep the pitch count down so he will be ready to go again in the championship.
Nice shaming attempt. But I'm not letting it go. And you're right, Christianity isn't just a "religion".Quote:
Originally Posted by Hump4Hoops
would ya'll please quit talking about religion? isn't there like a religion board some where for you to go with that? religion and politics. why bring either up on an MSU sports board when the dawgs are in Omaha and one game away from the national title game.
Graveman already has been seen by Or St. I say if they win, throw someone else and let Girado come in a pitch middle relief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
No use giving them something they have seen. I would be a fan of Fritz. That guy only had one hitter tag him yesterday.
I'm definitely on board with Lindgren on Friday. If he is on, he can give us a really solid start. Plus, if we were to lose Friday, I would feel a lot better about our chances of winning the rematch if Graveman was going.
We just have to make it to the Championship and burn that bridge when we get there. You can't start planning ahead or you will never get there.
Planning ahead is what you are doing if you don't start Graveman. It's not a regional and Jackson State waiting on us if we happen to lose. We have to win this game.
True, but Graveman could start game 2 against the team if we lose Friday. I'm not against Graveman on Friday, but if you think he gives you our best chance to win, what will it hurt to wait a day and hope we can get by without using him?Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
In other words, if we were in an elimination game Friday, you DEFINITELY start Graveman, but we aren't. Plus, Lindgren is more than capable of beating Indiana or Oregon St if he's on. And what if Graveman pitches Friday and loses? Would you rather have a Lindgren or Fitts starting the elimination game?! Or the one with less pressure? I would want Graveman in the most pressure packed game.
Graveman should start Friday- if he's 100% (and I don't see why he wouldn't be). If you start Graveman in Game 2 and win to make it to the final series he wouldn't be available unitl Game 3 of the final series- which isn't guaranteed. I don't want to plan ahead, but this way you kill two birds with one stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I like Bracewell starting over Lindgren anyway if you do change it up.
Lindgren hasnt pitched in a long while and not under any pressure like Fitts, Graveman, Ross, Giro, Holder have faced. You pitch Graveman, Ross Friday and if they get beat you go Fitts, Giro on Saturday. The same thing we have been doing the whole post-season. I just don't see the benefit in holding out KG and gambling (trusting) Lindgren, Pollo, Bracewell or anybody else to start a game as important as Fridays.
I think having Graveman Friday and available to carry a full load for a Game 3 (which makes 2 full games) outweighs saving him for a maybe Saturday game and if he has to pitch Saturday we only have him for a short stint in title series. Which will make every game we play after Friday a staff game. One of the main reasons our pitching model is working is because we have a guy that can give us 5-8 innings up front. That is especially true in a situation where we might have to play 5 games in 6 days to win a title. I'd rather have him with the opportunity to pitch 2 long outings than one and a short stint.
I'm cool with that about Graveman. I'd just love to have him for game 1 of the Championship if at all possible...and with Friday not being an elimination game, it IS possible. But I'm ok with Grave going Friday for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyDawg
As for Lindgren vs Brace, I would be fine with either...BUT the best hitters on OSU and IU are their Lefties. With that being said, I feel like Lindgren could have some Girodo-esque success with his slider against them.