Sunday Morning QB- It Sux Edition

Congrats to them- they earned it

1. Terrible offensive game planning. You know they are a speed defense that slants and stems their defensive front. We looked like we literally had not practiced against it in the 1st half. They were slanting their front to the wide side of the field alot and we simply couldnt lock on and create some running lanes. You have to run North-South vs them- everybody knows that. The 1st half gameplan was shit

2. They were bringing safetys and OLB's off the edge vs our OT's to create speed mismatches. They also ran X stunts at our OT's that caused confusion. This wasnt something new. It wasnt unexpected- yet it damn sure looked like it was in the 1st half.

3. The long pass play to Engram that completely changed the game after we had seized momentum was ridiculous. Bennie pointed at Engram before the ball was snapped and told the Secondary it was coming. Redmond tried to jump the out and took himself out of position. Engram catches the ball down the middle and the Safety completely whiffs on the tackle- that cant happen.

4. The 90 yard run cant happen. It should have been a 5 yard loss. That was a back-breaker and ridiculous. You cant miss tackles like that. That's why you lose games.

5. Our DE's didnt attack. They just stood up and tried to read the whole game. Never tried to force the issue. WTF?

6. Shump had a big game because he runs North-South. Thats what you have to do to their D. Needed more of it

7. Benardrick McKinney was a no-show yesterday. A literal non-factor

I agree with Mullen's postgame comment- "It sux". Yes Dan, it does. It ****ing does. 364 more days of this shit.

I agree. The coaching staff is fully to blame. It looked like we expected to play an FCS team. We were probably done in this game since thursday when mullen sent them home, you cant expect guys not to check out doing that. We had everything in our hands and we pisssed it away against a far inferior team. Unacceptable. Cant believe this is all you have to say about it though Coach haha

I can't believe he let them off on Thursday.

didn't grab and wrap up. That's not on the coaches, that's on him and it costs us. For as good as Will has been at times this year, he was bad yesterday. We'd better find a safety before next year or hope Peters can come in and start immediately because from what I saw yesterday, we have shit back there. Better be looking for JUCO help, imo.

That long run wasnt on just Redmond- thats ridiculous. Where was the backside DL? Why was there such a gaping hole for him to cut back thru?

The offensive line was worse than anyone

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

I can't believe he let them off on Thursday.

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I think this might be a big reason why we didn't look ready.

You can blame the coaching staff for not having them ready and the same ol stupidass mistakes they have made all year. Like i said on another thread when you look at it, 10-2 with this staff making these mistakes is a hell of a year.

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

I agree. The coaching staff is fully to blame. It looked like we expected to play an FCS team. We were probably done in this game since thursday when mullen sent them home, you cant expect guys not to check out doing that. We had everything in our hands and we pisssed it away against a far inferior team. Unacceptable. Cant believe this is all you have to say about it though Coach haha

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Their two key plays on offense both happened because we missed tackles. The players were In position to make plays and they whiffed on tackles. How is that ALL on coaching? We missed tackles all night long.

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

didn't grab and wrap up. That's not on the coaches, that's on him and it costs us. For as good as Will has been at times this year, he was bad yesterday. We'd better find a safety before next year or hope Peters can come in and start immediately because from what I saw yesterday, we have shit back there. Better be looking for JUCO help, imo.

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I've seen Peters play in person. He is good enough to start at safety for us immediately. And I don't say that about most players- the last few I've said that about are Chris Jones, Bear Wilson, and Shumpert.

The real problem is Dan likes to play upper classmen because he's Dan and shitter's full. See Chris Jones with the 1B's behind PJ Jones.

But in reality Peters, Bryant, and maybe JT Gray if he doesn't become a LB are > than Evans and Coman. Don't tell Dan- he invented football after all.

missed, he was gone. You have grab, hold on and bring them to the ground and Will knows that. At the very least grab him long enough to slow him down. He did neither.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

That long run wasnt on just Redmond- thats ridiculous. Where was the backside DL? Why was there such a gaping hole for him to cut back thru?

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Redmond didn't wrap up. I don't know what AJ Jefferson was doing in the game or what he was doing on that play, and Kivon Coman went in with his head down and took out Chris Jones. Then Deontay Evans didn't have the speed or the angle to track him down. Just inexcusable all the way around.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think this might be a big reason why we didn't look ready.

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The second I heard Mullen let the players go home for Thanksgiving, I called my buddy and said we just lost the game. Croom did that once and said he would never do it again. The team usually eats a Thanksgiving meal together in Starkville. It's not like we had much on the line. Sounds like Hevesey shit the bed too.

Three things - tackling, the OL, and presnap reads.

Tackling was a surprise because we've tackled well in or other 11 games.

The OL - somebody please explain why we probably had 0 yards rushing between the tackles. Zero and QB power. Don't think that was stunts. OL just couldn't get it done. And when went 5 wides and the safety walks up, I'm yelling at the TV - DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO iT! ....and it happens anyway - the QB draw into a mass of humanity.

Sometimes the D would show blitz on one side and we'd run our running play right into it anyway. I don't know if I saw Dak change a play all night.

In short, this looked exactly like the Bama game plus a bunch of missed tackles.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

The second I heard Mullen let the players go home for Thanksgiving, I called my buddy and said we just lost the game. Croom did that once and said he would never do it again. The team usually eats a Thanksgiving meal together in Starkville. It's not like we had much on the line. Sounds like Hevesey shit the bed too.

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Yep. Our team spent all day Thursday eating and laying up. Then we ride a bus for a couple of hours right before the game. Dumb, dumb, dumb

I knew we were in trouble when in I think the second quarter we pulled Beckwith on a pass play and cj Johnson blew his ass up and got dak. I knew we weren't ready right then. The o line was awful, will played his only bad game of the year, which is upsetting bc he's probably been our best defender all year. That's the worst part. 0 turnovers, their qb had no Tds and pick, and we shit everywhere and lose. Tough pill to swallow

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

The second I heard Mullen let the players go home for Thanksgiving, I called my buddy and said we just lost the game. Croom did that once and said he would never do it again. The team usually eats a Thanksgiving meal together in Starkville. It's not like we had much on the line. Sounds like Hevesey shit the bed too.

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I hope Dan has learned. It would be really bad if Croom figured that out and Dan doesn't.

What they ought to do is reserve a hotel and offer the families of the football players a chance to come to Starkville to eat with their family members. Because the issue with Thanksgiving and giving them that day off is the travel and the lack of practice time.

Mullen doesnt let Dak change many plays, this staff has tamed Dak

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Originally Posted by FlabLoser

Three things - tackling, the OL, and presnap reads.

Tackling was a surprise because we've tackled well in or other 11 games.

The OL - somebody please explain why we probably had 0 yards rushing between the tackles. Zero and QB power. Don't think that was stunts. OL just couldn't get it done. And when went 5 wides and the safety walks up, I'm yelling at the TV - DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO iT! ....and it happens anyway - the QB draw into a mass of humanity.

Sometimes the D would show blitz on one side and we'd run our running play right into it anyway. I don't know if I saw Dak change a play all night.

In short, this looked exactly like the Bama game plus a bunch of missed tackles.

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I think the poor tackling and bad o-line play were due to lethargy. My guess now looking back on it is Dan probably assumed that the intensity of the rivalry would "take care of itself" and he could let our guys go home for a day or two. He was wrong about that.

I'm more comfortable with Dak calling plays than Dan. When we won the Egg Bowl last year, urban legend is Dak was the one who wanted to run the ball on fourth and short, but Dan wanted to throw it into the end zone. We're lucky we haven't lost three Egg Bowls in a row.

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Mullen doesnt let Dak change many plays, this staff has tamed Dak

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I wonder if he did that with Tebow. I imagine Urban probably had a say in some things too.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I wonder if he did that with Tebow. I imagine Urban probably had a say in some things too.

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Im so pissed off at mullen i cant even think about it. I imagine Tebow had more freedom his senior year, hope he gives Dak the same

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Redmond didn't wrap up. I don't know what AJ Jefferson was doing in the game or what he was doing on that play, and Kivon Coman went in with his head down and took out Chris Jones. Then Deontay Evans didn't have the speed or the angle to track him down. Just inexcusable all the way around.

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Will didn't wrap up 2 yards in the backfield... when he was the only one in the backfield. CBs aren't supposed to be making tackles in the backfield between the tackles... that's where the DL and LBs should be, but none of them showed up on that play. Instead of ripping the kids that were woefully out of position, we choose to rip the kid that's constantly around the ball because he whiffed on a tackle. That makes no sense. Where the hell were the other 10 players?

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Im so pissed off at mullen i cant even think about it. I imagine Tebow had more freedom his senior year, hope he gives Dak the same

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Actually, Dan didn't coach Tebow his senior year.

If we let them go for thanksgiving and chose to ride a ****** bus to the game that's the 2 shittiest things our HC did. Those 2 things can be controlled by the HC and he went 0-2 on those. Wtf is he thinking? Game plans can be fluid and players can't be controlled but goddammit don't be a ****ing dumbass and do the 2 stupidest things you could do. ****ing idiot.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Will didn't wrap up 2 yards in the backfield... when he was the only one in the backfield. CBs aren't supposed to be making tackles in the backfield between the tackles... that's where the DL and LBs should be, but none of them showed up on that play. Instead of ripping the kids that were woefully out of position, we choose to rip the kid that's constantly around the ball because he whiffed on a tackle. That makes no sense. Where the hell were the other 10 players?

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Thank you. Redmond was all over the damn field and never gave up on a single play. He played his ass off and he was the only f*cking one. He should have never had to make that tackle, and I know it was a piss poor tackle, but our DL and LBs should have had their ass over there and make the tackle. The whole game just ****ing pisses me off, We played like shit in every aspect of the game

Will Redmond, Ashton Shumpert, Derunnya Wilson and Devon Bell were the only mfers that showed up yesterday. NO ONE else in our program showed up. From the top down. Unacceptable that it happens and ****ing Dan better fix it. Im a lot more pissed off today than yesterday because we just didn't show up and we got our ass kicked. Mullen get your head out of your ass it's not a ****ing hat.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Will didn't wrap up 2 yards in the backfield... when he was the only one in the backfield. CBs aren't supposed to be making tackles in the backfield between the tackles... that's where the DL and LBs should be, but none of them showed up on that play. Instead of ripping the kids that were woefully out of position, we choose to rip the kid that's constantly around the ball because he whiffed on a tackle. That makes no sense. Where the hell were the other 10 players?

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I'm not ripping Redmond. Just stating facts. He didn't wrap up. I also named 3 other players that messed up on that play. We just weren't ready to play and we got completely outcoached. OM had the perfect plan on offense and defense.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I'm not ripping Redmond. Just stating facts. He didn't wrap up. I also named 3 other players that messed up on that play. We just weren't ready to play and we got completely outcoached. OM had the perfect plan on offense and defense.

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he didn't wrap up. Just hate that no one else was swarming to the ball yesterday.

We let them go for thanksgiving and rode a bus to the game the day of?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?!!!!?!?!?!?!!

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Congrats to them- they earned it

1. Terrible offensive game planning. You know they are a speed defense that slants and stems their defensive front. We looked like we literally had not practiced against it in the 1st half. They were slanting their front to the wide side of the field alot and we simply couldnt lock on and create some running lanes. You have to run North-South vs them- everybody knows that. The 1st half gameplan was shit

2. They were bringing safetys and OLB's off the edge vs our OT's to create speed mismatches. They also ran X stunts at our OT's that caused confusion. This wasnt something new. It wasnt unexpected- yet it damn sure looked like it was in the 1st half.

3. The long pass play to Engram that completely changed the game after we had seized momentum was ridiculous. Bennie pointed at Engram before the ball was snapped and told the Secondary it was coming. Redmond tried to jump the out and took himself out of position. Engram catches the ball down the middle and the Safety completely whiffs on the tackle- that cant happen.

4. The 90 yard run cant happen. It should have been a 5 yard loss. That was a back-breaker and ridiculous. You cant miss tackles like that. That's why you lose games.

5. Our DE's didnt attack. They just stood up and tried to read the whole game. Never tried to force the issue. WTF?

6. Shump had a big game because he runs North-South. Thats what you have to do to their D. Needed more of it

7. Benardrick McKinney was a no-show yesterday. A literal non-factor

I agree with Mullen's postgame comment- "It sux". Yes Dan, it does. It ****ing does. 364 more days of this shit.

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The safety whiffs because as Engram brakes to the middle of the field the safety is breaking to the sideline 20 plus yards further down the field.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Actually, Dan didn't coach Tebow his senior year.

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you are correct, told you i was so pissed off i couldnt think about it

Mullen will never win a championship. His arrogance and love for Hevesy has always created friction among the coaching staff. This leads to a lack of synergy on the team. He needs a REAL OC, but since he is the inventor of the spread offense, that will never happen. Speaking of the Mullen Spread, it is the most antiquated version in existence! Absolutely no innovation.

Collins pyscho/mayhem defense looks more like Chris Wilson 2.0. But I'm sure, just like with previous coaches, he's trying to give Coach what he wants.

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

Mullen will never win a championship. His arrogance and love for Hevesy has always created friction among the coaching staff. This leads to a lack of synergy on the team. He needs a REAL OC, but since he is the inventor of the spread offense, that will never happen. Speaking of the Mullen Spread, it is the most antiquated version in existence! Absolutely no innovation.

Collins pyscho/mayhem defense looks more like Chris Wilson 2.0. But I'm sure, just like with previous coaches, he's trying to give Coach what he wants.

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Mullen is the best thing to happen to state. You're melting hard

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Will Redmond, Ashton Shumpert, Derunnya Wilson and Devon Bell were the only mfers that showed up yesterday. NO ONE else in our program showed up. From the top down. Unacceptable that it happens and ****ing Dan better fix it. Im a lot more pissed off today than yesterday because we just didn't show up and we got our ass kicked. Mullen get your head out of your ass it's not a ****ing hat.

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Dak Prescott fought his heart out too with no help from his HC

I've been this biggest Dak backer since he was a junior in high school....he did not show up yesterday.

Dak wasn't the problem.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I've been this biggest Dak backer since he was a junior in high school....he did not show up yesterday.

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He accounted for the only 2 TDs that we scored and had to run it up the middle time and time again with no help from his OL or HC. I disagree 100 percent

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I've been this biggest Dak backer since he was a junior in high school....he did not show up yesterday.

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Dak didn't play bad. He actually threw the ball really well.

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Originally Posted by Pollodawg

Dak wasn't the problem.

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The problem was our HC. I never said Dak was the problem. It was clear there were only a few players that came to play with any intensity.