MSU is the tallest defense in the SEC

http://3rdand57.com/sec-defenses-with-the-most-length/

Main reason I wrote this is because in every Bama game, the announcers talk about Bama's length and how much that helps when the field is shortened. I decided to average the height of every SEC projected starting defense. MSU is the longest unit in the conference.

Interesting side note: Ole Miss is the shortest. I ended up going with D Jones starting at CB since their official depth chart said so. It wouldn't shock me if Mike Hilton beat him out. He currently listed at #2 at CB and Huskey. If Hilton starts, they average under 6 feet on defense.

Now what does this mean? Statistically I can't find any trend to identify if this matters. Announcers love to beat this to death in Bama games but what say you? Does team length on defense matter at all?

Yup, height and length are probably the most under valued and non evaluated components by recruiting services. All they care about is straight line speed and maybe change of direction. It's hard to see height and how it impacts the game on game film taken from high above.

When you recruit more length, you don't have to have as much speed because you take up more space.

Ole Miss has a hobbit defense! That's what you get when all you do is look at stars.

The Hobbit Rebelbearsharks

In a word?

YES!!!!

Anyone who has any experience on defensive coaching will tell you that length of a player, not just their height, but their body length (wingspan, etc.) is a definite effect on how you can utilize those players, ESPECIALLY in the red zone.
the coaching staff has been placing an emphasis on this in recruiting the past 4 years now, and it is showing up very convincingly on the field now. and i LOVE it.

One play answers this question...

2009 jump pass against LSU. Lee's lack of length vs Jones length. End of discussion.

With the exception of Floridia, they all are in the 6'-1.5" to 6'-2.5" range. That's really not a large spread, especially considering 18 year-old kids average 1 inch of growth over 2 years. I would expect there is a high correlation to average class vs average height.

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Ole Miss has a hobbit defense!

The Hobbit Rebelbearsharks

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Gold. This needs to stick.

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Gold. This needs to stick.

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So who is Freeze?

Gandalf or Sauron?

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So who is Freeze?

Gandalf or Sauron?

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Gollum.

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Ole Miss has a hobbit defense! That's what you get when all you do is look at stars.

The Hobbit Rebelbearsharks

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So who is Freeze?

Gandalf or Sauron?

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Gollum.

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http://i.imgur.com/RSCcYCh.gif

Who can photoshop Hugh's face on Gollum and RK's face on an Orc? PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!

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Gollum.

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Frozo Baggins! My precious! Haha!

Guess I need to watch at least one of these movies so I have a clue who you're talking about.

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Freeze is Borromir because he is borderline weak douchebag that is usually pretty cool but when the rubber meets the road he lets everyone know how big a fake he is.
Or Freeze is the Wormtongue. Wormtongue could be a good cross over for Yancy if you will.
Freeze really strikes me as Smeagal before and right after he finds the ring. Seems like that fits my impression of him more than Gollum. Gollum is less than him. Really removed from his "humanity"
Now Smeagal was fishing with his cousin. His cousin finds the ring at the bottom of the lake. Smeagal thinking he should have it because its his birthday asks his cousin for it. Cousin refuses. Smeagal then kills his cousin and takes the ring. Lots of parallels with my impression of Freeze's persona.

Well I killed this conversation.

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Freeze is Borromir because he is borderline weak douchebag that is usually pretty cool but when the rubber meets the road he lets everyone know how big a fake he is.
Or Freeze is the Wormtongue. Wormtongue could be a good cross over for Yancy if you will.
Freeze really strikes me as Smeagal before and right after he finds the ring. Seems like that fits my impression of him more than Gollum. Gollum is less than him. Really removed from his "humanity"
Now Smeagal was fishing with his cousin. His cousin finds the ring at the bottom of the lake. Smeagal thinking he should have it because its his birthday asks his cousin for it. Cousin refuses. Smeagal then kills his cousin and takes the ring. Lots of parallels with my impression of Freeze's persona.

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One problem with your analogy: In the end, Boromir actually WAS a badass. Sure, the ring corrupted him and made him a bitch for a while. But at the end, when it mattered, he saves the Quest. It took like 8 arrows to put him down, and he was still trying to fight.

I could definitely see Yancy as Wormtongue. Or Saruman. Or maybe even The Mouth of Sauron.

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Just one of Freezums

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Just one of Freezums

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Freaking fantastic!

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You show great promise, Padawan.

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Lolz. If it helps, I followed ya.

They're all trolls to me.

Great analysis again, beast man. Florida doesn't surprise me, when I think of UF I think of small blazing fast black kids. I know that's not really accurate but that's the stereotype I call up. Not just UF either but the state as a whole.
Good thread until it went full geek retard with the harry potter stuff.

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Great analysis again, beast man. Florida doesn't surprise me, when I think of UF I think of small blazing fast black kids. I know that's not really accurate but that's the stereotype I call up. Not just UF either but the state as a whole.
Good thread until it went full geek retard with the harry potter stuff.

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That's not really what they were when Urban Meyer/Dan Mullen were recruiting there. Dan Mullen is following the model that he and Urban used at Florida as far as player prototype.

Never, ever curse Gandalf by equating him with Freeze.

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That's not really what they were when Urban Meyer/Dan Mullen were recruiting there. Dan Mullen is following the model that he and Urban used at Florida as far as player prototype.

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Dan is basically building a working man's Florida Gators in Starkville. And I am fine with that.

I think that Benarrick McKinney is who makes us taller than everyone else. Of course taller also should mean the ability to weigh more and still be athletic. So I would be interested to see who the heaviest defense was? I think goal line is where this could factor in the most.