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http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclu...uining-america
well written and worth the read
And well played, Coach. Well played. I laughed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
2009? I know you didn't find this in the normal course of internetting, and it's pretty pathetic to imagine someone googling "soccer ruining America".
That said, article is dumb and baseless, and has to be satire?
It's like the guy got into my head!
Sporting should be about breaking kids down before you start building them up. YES!
Americans would never invent a sport where the better you get the less you score. YES!
Conservative suburban families, the backbone of America, have turned to soccer in droves. Baseball is too intimidating, football too brutal, and basketball takes too much time to develop the required skills. American parents in the past several decades are overworked and exhausted, but their children are overweight and neglected. Soccer is the perfect antidote to television and video games. It forces kids to run and run, and everyone can play their role, no matter how minor or irrelevant to the game. Soccer and relevision are the peanut butter and jelly of parenting.
YES!
Then the kids get to high school and start playing real sports.
Don't sec fans pound their chests over superior defenses preventing scoring and ball control offenses? And mercilessly mock HUNH offenses as a "gimmick"?
Also, not sure how little league, pee wee, or youth basketball "breaks down" a kid differently from soccer.
If you can't appreciate yesterday's game - US clinging to a 1-0 lead with a weary defense and their best forward out of the game with injury, enduring every attack from an athletically superior Ghana team, finally giving up the tying goal, and then answering in spectacular fashion - then you are a miserable person. No, it's not college football. But it was riveting. There is a reason it is the most popular sport in the world. The world cup is a once-every-four-year spectacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Wait, is this a soccer hater's thread that soccer lovers are posting in?
I may be a miserable person, but I am not shitting on my home state while living up north and having to borrow money from my parents.
Miserable > Loser everytime.
Holy Lord...it's funny seeing the glorification of a match-up that was like Madison Central playing Durant and MC scoring at the end to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb
Uh, I'm pretty sure that article was a joke.
Soccer is a girl's sport because it mimics child labor? There's no way this guy's serious. I'd hope not anyway...
The sheer fact that we are on par with Ghana in something means that Americans shouldn't support it. It's embarrassing.
Im curious. How does a country like Ghana even compete with us? I know very little about soccer but it just seems off.
Take a break man. He is a recent grad and just starting out in a career. No need to say that. Youre better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by curmudgeon
If I had to guess, and this is purely a guess, I would think it has something to do with it being their major sport. Maybe even their only sport. While our best athletes go and play basketball or football, most every other country goes and plays soccer. I could be completely wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar
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Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar
It's ok grandpa. Change is tough for some to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This is correct. Soccer is pretty much the only sport in 90% of countries around the world and Ghana is one of those countries. All kids do there while growing up is play soccer, and as the saying goes "practice makes perfect". Most of Ghana's best athletes end up playing soccer, while in the U.S. the best athletes are divided up among many sports such as football, basketball, etc. If soccer was the number one sport in the U.S. and all the best athletes were playing soccer, the U.S. would probably be a top 5 world powerhouse in soccer.Quote:
Originally Posted by boarmassage
and I would be disgusted by it every day of my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie_Sheen420
USA Dream Team
Mike Trout
Bryce Harper
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Billy Hamilton
Adrian Peterson
Richard Sherman
Colin Kapernick
Cam Newton
Johnny Soccerball
Percy Harvin
Calvin Johnson
Giancarlo Stanton
Dee Gordon
Yasiel Puig (he's USA now)
Tim Tebow
Thank god we are lucky enough we see these athletes playing the sports they are best at. It'd be a shame if we never saw LeBron James play basketball and he played soccer instead. Soccer isn't a threat to Americans. It's just a sport. Just like any other sport. Playing soccer or watching soccer doesn't mean you want to suddenly become a Hispanic or European country. Don't let your fears and hatred towards other cultures show too much this next month guys. USA is held to a higher standard. We set the example for the rest.
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt
Is this the reason why so many Americans hate soccer? Because we don't dominate the world in it? I can only assume these people hate other things we don't dominate the world in also. Like math. And science. And healthcare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar
xenophobes, the lot of you
but hey, we dominate the world in being fat and taking over countries!Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
So many Americans hate soccer because so many American soccer fans are insufferable nitwits eager to advertize their worldliness and sophistication.
I don't get why soccer fans are posting on this. Its a satirical article he posted for a laugh and to see who would get pissy about it, posting just makes y'all seem sour. Just don't post and let it disappear down the page.
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Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
Soccer isn't to blame. Those people just hate people.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
I'd scratch Hamilton for Jason Heyward. Yeah, Hamilton's fast and steals a bunch of bases. But he hasn't done much else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I'd also swap Stanton for RGIII. Stanton hits a lot of homers, but I wouldn't call him a great athlete.
Maybe they just hate soccer. Like some people can't stand basketball. Some people hate golf. Some hate baseball. It's ok.
How did we get beat by Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic. A SPORT WE INVENTED??
For reference their populations
PR - 3.6 million
DR - 9.4 million
Ghana - 24.2 million
USA - 300 million +
Is that a reason to hate baseball?
We can add both Heyward and RG3, good adds. We have way too much size on this team though we need some little burners running around.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
No. If I come to your cookout and say I don't like hamburgers, a normal person would offer me a hot dog, not lecture me on how wrong I am because the entire world likes hamburgers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I don't think its coincidental that I don't know people IRL that love soccer to the point of wanting to seriously discuss it. Casual observers every four years - that's fine. But telling me I am a miserable fool/idiot because I don't like it? That's really narcissistic. "If you don't see it my way, you are an idiot."
Plus, the main antagonist in all of this is a complete loser that in adulthood is having to live off his parents because he thinks he is too good for Mississippi. I don't hate people. I don't even hate complete total losers. I do hate soccer and what it does to people every four years.
Red herring. I don't hate soccer because we aren't good at it. As I said before, I became intrigued with handball during the last Olympics. The USA is horrible at that sport to the point where we don't qualify for major international competition. Am I scanning the internet for foreign handball stats and standings? No, but I found it enjoyable to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Statefan
I hate soccer because its a miserable, boring sport that is killing American youth. If you think baseball is boring, that's fine. I'm not going to think less of you as a person.
Ive been one of the main people disagreeing with you, and never once has it been because you don't like soccer. Its the fact that you tried to hate on it/its fans/ and the sport in general that has brought flak towards you.Quote:
Originally Posted by curmudgeon
I posted a thread asking non soccer fans if they would watch. I think Goat said no he doesn't like it and won't give a damn if we make the finals. I never attacked him for that. You got attacked for how you said that you don't like soccer
Medically, it is saving our youth geniusQuote:
Originally Posted by curmudgeon
You'd be surprised at how fast the team we just put together is. Harvin, RG3, and Calvin Johnson are all 4.3 guys. Trout, Harper, JHey, Johnny Soccerball, Puig, and Sherman are all fast as hell, too. Hell, even Newton is a 4.5 guy at 6'5 240. That team may be big, but it's FAST. I'd say the slowest guy on the list is Tebow, and he's probably 4.6-4.7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
The point: If the US was all in on soccer the way other countries were, we'd dominate. I'm not a big soccer guy, but even I can see that critical mass seems to have been reached for soccer to become a major sport here and that we've improved dramatically just in the last 8 years. I don't think it'll be long, certainly within my lifetime, that we'll be a legitimate contender for the World Cup. But we'll always split our elite talent amongst several sports, and I'm fine with that.
Keep telling yourself that, genius. Its good exercise, I will not disagree, but there is more to it than physical health.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
I think the pro-soccer crowd has gotten so vocal because the anti-soccer crowd is so outspoken about their hatred. Most of the time at something innocuous like World Cup highlights leading off sportscenter or people excitedly talki... I mean advertising their worldliness and sophistication about the World Cup. So of course the pro-soccer crowd is going to get defensive. It also comes from the types of "reasons" the haters hate soccer, like it's a communist sport, only poor countries like it, it's not exciting, etc. if you prefer other sports that's fine, but no need to attack one you don't like like it actively offends you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
It's like politics in this country. One side believes something, otherside attacks said belief irrationally, 1st gets defensive and attacks the otherside, so on and so on it goes, both sides blaming the other for starting it.
Again, I don't think less of another human being for liking something that I don't. There's only one side that does that.
I do think less of a human being for shitting on his home while taking money from his parents so he can live somewhere "cool" and pretend he's better than people back home.
Dude, you may know the entire story of whoever you're talking about, but I doubt it. You're saying someone is acting better than others, yet you're basically acting like you're better than him. How do you fail to see the irony in thatQuote:
Originally Posted by curmudgeon
I do see the irony.
There are people that are better than other people.
There are winners and losers in life.
Just not always in soccer.