Biggest Football screw jobs against MSU

Here are my picks:
1- Dick Pace : Even UM coach Steve Sloan knew that it was a terrible call. He laughed and said sarcastically, "Great call."

2- BYU in Starkville: Their refs called the game and they were trying to keep BYU alive for the National Championship game. Really awful. I was glad that BYU lost their next game to get knocked out of the title game

3- SEC Championship game 1998 : the sister of an SEC ref wrote the CL and said it was horrible.

4- Upig in Little Rock 1999: Jack Cristil said, "The officials are a disgrace to the SEC."

5- 2013 vs UM: it was 11 versus 18 and we won.

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I was at the Dick Pace game. Easily the worst screw job ever.

Another that sticks out to me is versus Houston on 2009. Used their refs, who allowed them to hold blatantly all day long, and only called a couple of meaningless penalties against UH in the last minute or two, as I recall. They attempted 52 passes and didn't get called for holding once. They also got away with defensive pass-interference, one that resulted in an INT for them. But the worst call was the one on us for passing beyond the LOS. It wasn't remotely close to being over. I am still pissed at Mullen for not challenging that call, as it would have set us up with a first down inside their 10, I believe. Instead, we gave the ball back on downs, as I recall.

Egg Bowl 2013 was worst in the past few years unless you count us playing kentucky in basketball.

How we got almost every bad call, while at home, while trying to get bowl eligible.....well, those refs must not be fans of scientology.

What about Baton Rogue 2001?

How did 1999 @ Bama not make this list? The phantom hold on Pig Prather's punt return should easily make the list on its own merit, much less all the other bullshit calls whenever you're playing in T-Town on top of it. Hell, I can STILL hear the Bama fans laughing about that "hod."

I'll just leave this here.....

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Yeah the no call on John Wall's goal tending in game 1 was shit-tastic, then, he gets a no call lane violation in game 2. Complete shit show.

Number 1 is Dick Pace. It was flat out cheating. That's the bottom line.

Number 2 was BYU. They were trying to get BYU into the BCS for the millions of dollars it would have brought in. It was obvious- nobody misses holding calls like that night. If the game had been called properly, we would have won by 2 TD's

I remember a game in Death Valley where they gave the Tigers 5 downs. Also a game down there where they took a down away from US.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Yeah the no call on John Wall's goal tending in game 1 was shit-tastic, then, he gets a no call lane violation in game 2. Complete shit show.

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Complete screw job. My post was football related. We could have another thread on hoops.

In baseball, the home Florida series when the got mad at our catcher's signal to Polk when the call was bad. The ump told our catcher he was going to call balls no matter the pitch and we walked a few in route to a Florida comeback win. Yeah, the ump was suspended by the SEC, but it remained a loss.

Everyone get bad calls, even Bama suffered thru Upig getting a 5th down in Tuscaloosa, but we get way more than our share.

My Dad always told me about some game in BR against LSU in 60s or 70s where we had a the ball driving for game winning score. Our receiver caught a pass, took 2 or 3 steps and then went out of bounds. They called it incomplete!

I was at the BooYoo game in 2001. It sucked.

Mother Nature blowing a field goal back has to fit in here somewhere.

Tim Nelson hanging on to Tee Martin's ankle for dear life, Martin looking to pass the ball, tackled by Kevin Sluder, 15 yard roughing the passer. That was one of the biggest single screw jobs I've ever seen.

Yep, and good ole Mike Stuart called both games and guess who called the Ky vs Wisconsin final Four game. Mike Stuart. Makes you wonder sometimes.

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Yeah the no call on John Wall's goal tending in game 1 was shit-tastic, then, he gets a no call lane violation in game 2. Complete shit show.

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Yep, and good ole Mike Stuart called both games and guess who called the Ky vs Wisconsin final Four game. Mike Stuart. Makes you wonder sometimes.

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"Mike Stuart and Rick Stansbury are jaw to jaw" One of my favorite TV quotes from that season. Mike tried to **** us on that play too. He has never been a friend to MSU.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

I was at the Dick Pace game. Easily the worst screw job ever.

Another that sticks out to me is versus Houston on 2009. Used their refs, who allowed them to hold blatantly all day long, and only called a couple of meaningless penalties against UH in the last minute or two, as I recall. They attempted 52 passes and didn't get called for holding once. They also got away with defensive pass-interference, one that resulted in an INT for them. But the worst call was the one on us for passing beyond the LOS. It wasn't remotely close to being over. I am still pissed at Mullen for not challenging that call, as it would have set us up with a first down inside their 10, I believe. Instead, we gave the ball back on downs, as I recall.

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Tyson Lee was 2-1/2 yards behind the line of scrimmage when he threw that pass. That was a huge WTF moment in MSU sports.

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Tyson Lee was 2-1/2 yards behind the line of scrimmage when he threw that pass. That was a huge WTF moment in MSU sports.

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What made that call bad, was it was compounded by all the other shitty calls we were on the wrong side of; i.e., Bump's TD return against Bama called back; Brandon McRae stripping the ball after Tyson's INT against Florida non-call, which would have given us a touch back.

Are there any more during that stretch I'm forgetting?

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What made that call bad, was it was compounded by all the other shitty calls we were on the wrong side of; i.e., Bump's TD return against Bama called back; Brandon McRae stripping the ball after Tyson's INT against Florida non-call, which would have given us a touch back.

Are there any more during that stretch I'm forgetting?

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Touchdown against LSU in 2009 that would have won the game and put us in a bowl

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Tim Nelson hanging on to Tee Martin's ankle for dear life, Martin looking to pass the ball, tackled by Kevin Sluder, 15 yard roughing the passer. That was one of the biggest single screw jobs I've ever seen.

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I think it was third and long too. I knew it was over after that. Saw an article once that said UT winning that game was worth seventy million to the conference.

Everything mentioned here are definitely legitimate gripes. However, M.Fillmore's #1 & #2 are easily the biggest overall screw jobs. Without question. I saw both first hand.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

How did 1999 @ Bama not make this list? The phantom hold on Pig Prather's punt return should easily make the list on its own merit, much less all the other bullshit calls whenever you're playing in T-Town on top of it. Hell, I can STILL hear the Bama fans laughing about that "hod."

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Was at the game Dawg. Could not agree with you more. Great call.

1. Dick Pace - my first Egg Bowl - that walk across the parking lot afterwords taught me to despise TSUN.
2. Auburn - Cam Newton and the complicit press that allowed them to indite MSU by association. The above posted 'First Down'. The smug 'things are back to normal' after last year. Their imprisonment of an American Bald Eagle for circus tricks. A noble university would have set it free. Cam Newton, Cam Newton, Cam Newton. Listening to our coaches headsets. Bobby ****ing Lowder. Pat Dye. They are the single most corrupt program in the conference.
3. SEC Championship Game
4. Dick Pace a thousand times DIck Pace - the image of John Fourcade in the end zone AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
5. The damn wind at the Egg Bowl....that was one of those drunk moments where you are instantly sober and hungover. Thankfully I have since retired my liver from that level of abuse.

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I think it was third and long too. I knew it was over after that. Saw an article once that said UT winning that game was worth seventy million to the conference.

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Mike Slive gets a million dollar bonus if a SEC team wins the national championship, that should put some of the screw jobs in perspective.

The reason I think the biggest is the Houston game is think of the ramifications of what that loss did. It cost us a bowl game. We win that game if the correct call is made. We get to 6 wins, get to a bowl game to get a potential 7th, and in Mullen's first year we possibly go 7-5 instead of 5-7. I think that would have drastically altered the national perception of our program and could have been huge for us on the recruiting trail. Would also be 5 bowls in a row.

By officials, BYU.
BYU RT pulls our DE to the ground by his arm. Ref looks at them and looks away.

Within a few minutes MSU throws a completion on 3rd down with no holding. Flag comes out, holding MSU.

I don't normally get annoyed at FB refs, it's a tough job. Those guys should never have called another NCAA contest.

By Satan:
Wind blowing FG back against OM. I was there and still can't believe it.

In basketball, the last 15 minutes of the home game against UK in 2010 was as bad as I can remember.

Last season's EB was freaking awful. They took one int and one fumble away from us.

The 2009 Houston game is probably the worst, though. That was inexcusable.

Auburn 2011 gets honorable mention. I still think Vick broke the plane before they stopped us at the goal line a couple of plays later. Not to mention that first down an inch behind the sticks.

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The reason I think the biggest is the Houston game is think of the ramifications of what that loss did. It cost us a bowl game. We win that game if the correct call is made. We get to 6 wins, get to a bowl game to get a potential 7th, and in Mullen's first year we possibly go 7-5 instead of 5-7. I think that would have drastically altered the national perception of our program and could have been huge for us on the recruiting trail. Would also be 5 bowls in a row.

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Should've/could've thrown the red flag on top of the yellow one.

He asked the line judge how close it was, and he said "it wasn't close coach". So in a close game, Dan was probably saving the flag for later. I don't know what the dudes in the box were looking at, or if they even told Dan to challenge or not.

In the 1992 Bama game, we were leading in the 4th quarter when we sacked Barker and he fumbled around midfield. Official runs in seconds later and calls incomplete after we had recovered. They punted and we fumble the punt. Completely changed the game and they go on to win the national championship.

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Yeah the no call on John Wall's goal tending in game 1 was shit-tastic, then, he gets a no call lane violation in game 2. Complete shit show.

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Under Ron Greene, Peck dunks on an inbounds play to seal the win at Rupp. The Refs wave it off call a foul on Peck and we lose by a point. Ky wins the SEC and we come in second place. They are the only team to make it to the Dance ( only one team per conf). We don't even go to the NIT and Greene gets pissed at Tyler and leaves.

Not the worst, but the Egg Bowl last year was awful. If we lose that game, people probably consider it the worst. Not only did they miss two turnovers, they had instant replay that they didn't use. That's what I don't understand.

There was a game when I was at State and I remember a specific bad call, one called by a ref I knew to have children at the time currently attending MSU... In a year where MSU was fighting Arkansas, the ref's alma mater, for a favorable bowl...

It's impossible to find a referee without a bias in the south. I don't care how levelheaded or honest the ref is, he's biased towards certain schools. To boot, we have a commissioner who has not only a personal incentive to see the favorites win... The multi-billionar dollar corporation he runs needs the favorites to win to keep those multi-billion dollar contacts coming in every 15 years.

ETA: The fact that the SEC doesn't have full-time referees and other leagues do tells you everything you need to know.

I've always said there are only 3 MSU sporting events that I KNOW cheating occurred.

The BYU game, the Bama game in 1999, and then the year we got Tubby a T and beat kentucky (can't remember the year). We cheated the shit out of Kentucky that game. Lol

Also Gibson didn't cross the goal vs LSU in 1999. I don't think we cheated there, the refs just blew that one. Thank God they didn't have instant replay back then.

I've never seen video evidence that Gibson was down before the goal line. Most seem to think he was though. However, LSU player clearly dropped the ball early before entering the endzone in 2000 overtime game. Their streak should be one less.

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Also Gibson didn't cross the goal vs LSU in 1999. I don't think we cheated there, the refs just blew that one. Thank God they didn't have instant replay back then.

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Almost every film angle was inconclusive, but there was one angle that sure looks like Gibson scored. I saved in on an old VHS tape I have buried in a closet.

I have been on many a high school and college sideline. I can tell you that when a 6' running back runs into a mob of 6'4" linemen at the goal line it is very difficult to tell if the runner scored from the goal line near the sideline.

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ETA: The fact that the SEC doesn't have full-time referees and other leagues do tells you everything you need to know.

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There are some full-time college basketball refs but they work three or more conferences and they work 5 or more hoop games per week during the hoops season. There are no full time college football refs unless they have some other source of income. The refs at the BCS title game were paid $2,100 each. Assume that as a high pay level and multiply by 13 games and you get $27,300.

Most NFL refs work another job and they are the highest paid football refs. I read an interview with an NFL ref and he said he also has a pension from another job. I know a guy who is an NFL ref and his starting pay (it was before the most recent labor contract) was $85,000. The longer they ref in the NFL the more money they get.

I talked to a Juco ref who told me that after he backed out the costs of his registrations, equipment and camps and if he counted his travel time and pre-game and post-game time, he averages $5 an hour. We hammer the high school and juco refs but a whole lot of them are simply out there for the love of the game.
Note: I talking high school and juco in this paragraph, not D-1 college.

The Houston one was pretty bad. Not only was he clearly at least a yard and a half to two yards BEHIND the line of scrimmage but the rule doesn't even require you be fully behind it. In actuality, it is not an illegal forward pass until both the player and the ball are FULLY accross. If during the throwing motion the ball begins behind the line of scrimmage it doesn't matter where the rest of the player's body is. Likewise, for instance, if his plant foot is still behind the line of scrimmage, nothing else really matters either. So, they missed that one by like THREE yards!!!! I always said the replay guy must've been off taking a peepee or was getting a bj at the time.

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Originally Posted by Dawgowar

1. Dick Pace - my first Egg Bowl - that walk across the parking lot afterwords taught me to despise TSUN.
2. Auburn - Cam Newton and the complicit press that allowed them to indite MSU by association. The above posted 'First Down'. The smug 'things are back to normal' after last year. Their imprisonment of an American Bald Eagle for circus tricks. A noble university would have set it free. Cam Newton, Cam Newton, Cam Newton. Listening to our coaches headsets. Bobby ****ing Lowder. Pat Dye. They are the single most corrupt program in the conference.
3. SEC Championship Game
4. Dick Pace a thousand times DIck Pace - the image of John Fourcade in the end zone AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
5. The damn wind at the Egg Bowl....that was one of those drunk moments where you are instantly sober and hungover. Thankfully I have since retired my liver from that level of abuse.

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I agree on the wind but at least that was bad luck and not a bad call. I was there for the Dick Pace fiasco too. He kept on making bad calls. That has to be the worst I have ever seen.