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Who will be the first person to "make up" with Mississippi State. These were big time supporters of State, but have little or nothing to do with State anymore.
1. Ron Polk
2. John Grisham
3. Rick Stansbury
4. None of the above
I'm saying none, because there's lots of bitterness by those guys toward State.
Grisham has part of the library named after him and raves about the LFL. I think he just has to split his alliances between us and OM since he went to law school there.
Of the other two, Polk... without a doubt. His issue was with the Ninja. Stan's is with the grasshopper and his paw-in-law.
The only one I'd want back is Polk, he made some great contributions and laid the foundation for the success we have today. Grisham is a hack that is in love with the myth of Oxford and Stans I could take or leave. Stans was always style over substance and over-hyped imho.
I would say Grisham.
I think Polk would come back if/when Cohen leaves and Polk is still alive at that time. Heck, Polk still hasn't forgiven the NCAA for Title IX.
Grisham was a situation where we shunned his kid- but he probably understood at least to a degree since Grisham was cut a Delta State when he went out for their baseball team. I think his instance was more about supporting his son's new school (Virginia) as opposed to dislike for MSU.
Stansbury- I don't know much about his situation.
I think MSU baseball is better with Polk as a part of it, and I would love to have him back. But that would be in a perfect world. As long as he is bad mouthing Cohen, he doesn't need to come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by randyholloway
Picture: Grisham Stadium
Why would Stands be wanted back? Our success in basketball was basically built on smoke and mirrors, he clapped like an Ole Miss fan, his best assistant, Stan Jones, he ran off, he allowed the program to be run into the ground, and he BUTCHERED the English language!!
But he did it all with STYLE! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Thick
Todd, 100% agree. No argument that Polk would need to man up and give Cohen his due. It would be worth him doing it to have him back and be part of what we have going in baseball, it has the potential to be very special over the long-term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Shit like this makes this board almost unreadable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
What was wrong with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldFatDog
You look more like an idiot every time you discuss MSU basketball. Stans never ran off Stan Jones, he left to go back with his buddy, Leonard Hamilton at FSU. If smoke and mirrors is what we had with Stans, then it sure looks better than the crap we are watching now. You guys who have hatred for him are sick individuals. He has never done anything to hurt MSU athletics and I have yet to hear him badmouth MSU or Rick Ray. I would suggest if he were involved in any way, our basketball would be better off because we sure as hell aren't recruiting now. You remind me of the Democrats still blaming George Bush. Get over it and the people you have mentioned have all given 1 million more things to MSU than you could ever dream of doing.
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Originally Posted by Thick
Thick gave quite a bit for State on Scott Field Saturday after SaturdayQuote:
Originally Posted by coastdoglover
Go ask the ole miss football team.**Quote:
Originally Posted by K9 Avenger
Is this the clapping you are referring too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Clap_Emma.gif
I love you Thick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
What the hell is wrong with you people
No point to even argue with the crowd on this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Five-tool Poster
This thread started off good, but the Stansbury bashing took it south. And quickly.
This is from someone who definitely wanted him to "retire."
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Originally Posted by OldFatDog
Got an awesome solution for ya when your ready...
Interesting responses. I don't think Ron Polk has a lot of love for stricklin, because stricklin was Byrnes right hand man and was as responsible for Cohen being at State as Byrne. No love lost there.
John Grishams love of the leftfield lounge and MSU baseball ended a long time ago. He didn't even show up for the super regionals in his own backyard in Virginia. Spare me his conflict with Virginia baseball. The stuff he wrote about the lounge was written 25 years ago. When was the last time grisham attended a game at Dudy Noble. Ten years or more. This is a guy who has private jets and could fly into golden triangle airport and attend and support MSU baseball at the drop of a hat. He doesn't.
Stansbury was fired so I understand his situation.
Polk will probably never get over it. Grisham maybe.
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Originally Posted by MSUMatt
I just want to know. Are you Matt Wyatt. lol
Is the word "almost" a little too complicated for you? I'm assuming that you didn't see this thread before it was edited. But, then again, you might have.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
None. Polk hates Cohen but backed off to keep his name on the baseball stadium. Grisham already built a baseball field in Oxford. Stansbury still working on a workout video with fat ass. Check 4.
Read an article written after Cohen was hired. I had forgotten just however nasty Polk was. That wad vicious stuff.
Grisham built Virginia's baseball stadium.
Which fat ass are you talking about. Those are a dime a dozen in Mississippi.
The smoke and mirrors comment is pure idiocy.
Grisham could be a great ambassador with his finances and fame.
Yea, we always find a way to screw those relationships up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pollodawg
If that was the case, why did he make NO comments or appearances in our deep postseason run -- while staying FAR away from the program and showing no actual support whatsoever?Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
No -- Polk deflected his wrath to Byrne publicly -- but his ultimate problem is with John Cohen. He did more on the front end to sabotage Cohen's success behind the scenes than most people will ever know. Still is trying -- to the best of my knowledge -- it's just falling on deaf ears now that people have learned to love Cohen and the success he's bringing us. Totally hates him for whatever reason -- and despises the fact that Cohen processes players that don't perform. Of course, Polk would NEVER admit that holding dead weight simply because you offered them out of highschool hurts all the kids that were good enough but never got their one chance to play for MSU equally -- and obviously hurts the true depth and success on the team tremendously.
I love how Cohen has played it though. Professes love and respect for Polk, gives him great credit for everything, and basically continually worships him publicly. The obviously open door Cohen has kept for Polk reduces Polk to a babbling fool the longer it takes him to walk back through it(if he ever does)...
Ron Polk might be the most stubborn man on the face of the earth.
I wouldn't count on Polk ever coming back- and I hope he doesn't until he publicly apologizes for all the shit he's put us through. Polk claimed to love Mississippi State, but at the end, all he did was hurt us with his hatred of Cohen/Byrne.
I'd love to have Polk back on board, but he'll never be able to swallow his pride.
Polk has some ill will still for sure, but he's older and people tend to think a little more about their legacy and how they want to be remembered. If he shits on State, his legacy become irrelevant and faded quicker than turtle necks in the 90's.
he may be stubborn, but he'd have to be stupid to ruin his own legacy. That said, he's one of the few State coaches in the modern era that I've never met so he may very well be willing to tank his own legacy.
Wonder if the new stadium will hasten his "comeback". The name on the new stadium doesn't have to include Polk.Quote:
Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero
Polk won't come back in my opinion because Cohen did what Polk wrote the NCAA and told them couldn't be done. Of course Polk was right in that scholarship limitations are unfair for baseball, but cohen's winning makes him look dumb.
Grisham. I didn't think there was a problem here but we need to really force his hand by continually extending ours. He could be a much better visible celebrity for state.
Stansbury is still in Starkville and just doesn't seem to harbor the disdain fans seem to hold onto toward him.
I asked earlier about when was the last time Grisham attended a game at Dudy. A long while. Besides Grisham's star has faded. He doesn't sell nearly the books he used to. Most young people don't have a clue about him.
...John Grisham has to "make up" with MSU?Quote:
Originally Posted by bully99
After reading several of your posts I've concluded you are a 13 year old kid.
Just 12. After reading your posts I've concluded like most on here you are a certified DICK.
Ronny might be Dickish at times but I appreciate his posts. They are not blindishly supportive.
There is a better chance of Israel and Palestine making peace than there is of Ron Polk coming back into the State camp. We played for a national championship in June, A FREAKING NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, where was ol' Ron? Exactly.
Like my posts are "blindishly supportive ".