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Here is a list of names that could/should be considered for attrition. Some may not even be on scholly- I'm just going thru the Spring roster:
Ricco Sanders
Sam Cowart
Ivan Muniz
There were plenty of other names- but they were guys I'm sure were walk-ons- though maybe had been put on scholly
We have a real problem come this Feb...shit we have a young team
As far as youth, I am not worried about that for this year or next. I'm more worried about 2015 where we'll have the young OL.
Ricco Sanders has played a good bit and is a Sr. Why would he transfer now? I really don't see much of any scholarship players leaving.
Ricco is a Sr and is not even on the 2-deep...he needs to go to Delta State and help them- we need the scholarshipQuote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
As far as the OL- we will bring in some jucos. That's a given
Ricco has actually seen some PT on the field. I would have expected him to contribute some this year as one of the few veterans we have at WR.
Corvell Harrison-Gay - only upper class men not on the 2 deep.
I agree. I don't think we are young so much as we are finally hitting the red shirt bubble created by the Mullen approach vs Croom. It should stabilize after this year. If Mullen left now, the new coach would actually have a foundation to build from instead of having to start from scratch.
We are going to play with 2 TE's more on offense this year- sometimes even 3 TE's...that leaves 2 WR's and sometimes 1 WR in the formationQuote:
Originally Posted by PMDawg
Our WR's:
Robert Johnson
Jameon Lewis
Fred Brown
Jeremy Chappele
Joe Morrow
Brandon Holloway
Would you rather have Ricco fighting for the leftover reps or Freshman Fred Ross getting some experience?
I agree that Ross is the better candidate. I don't totally understand one thing about Ricco leaving. We need scholarships for the new class we will sign in February. Right now there are less than 20 slots available. How will Ricco transferring help? He is a senior, so his scholarship will be avaible for that class anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
While I think Croom left Mullen a good foundation himself, I will say there were some glaring holes, and most of them came out in 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMDawg
Maybe Steven Bench? Just a thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo Darville
I'm a dumbassQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo Darville
juniors like Muniz though and some others need to ship out
true- Ricco leaving would help thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
I heard a rumor of Corvell doing some offensive work this Spring, no idea how true that is...But it could indicate that they have other plans for him.
That is the thing about losing guys like Knox, Redmond, and Lawson along the O-line. You hate to see guys leave or not pan out, and you lose depth when they do. However, if they weren't capable of contributing at the necessary level, then we are better off because it opens up a scholarship for someone who might can contribute.
Without a doubt, the worst scholarship to give is to someone who plays a full 5 years (redshirt plus 4) and never sees the field for any reasonable time.
Ivan Muniz isn't on scholarship. His brother is though and is 2nd string guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I don't think Ivan is on scholarship. I hate doing this but if you made me:
1) Ricco
2) Harrison-Gay
3) John Harris
4) Paul Thompson
5) Taveze Calhoun (medical)
I hate picking guys for this but there's my top 5. The thing is, all those guys are good players. Shows you how far the program has come when an athlete like Harris won't ever get in the DE mix. 2 of the guys I suggested are seniors so it wouldn't do much good. Calhoun is a good player but has been injured more than healthy and CB looks fine this spring. Thompson has shown a lot of progression and certainly isn't Lawson or Knox, but he doesn't get many 2nd team reps.
There could also be a surprise or 2 for a discipline issue that pops up. And I have no idea who, just saying you can't predict that type of thing.
ETA- Sam Cowart isn't on scholarship either
Ivan and Sam not on scholarship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Paul Thompson isn't on scholarship. Right? Never heard of him. John Harris is someone I can see moving on.
I thought he was. He was a Hargrave guy if I remember correctly. Hate even suggesting him. He seems like a really good dude
Walk on:
"I am going to be walking on at Mississippi State University," said Paul. "I had some offers from some 1-AA schools and invitations to walk on at Mississippi State and NC State. After visiting the campus, I knew Mississippi State was the place for me."
What we are establishing here is that the attrition we are going to have, we aren't going to really like even though it's absolutely necessary at this point. Good players that we've felt all along had good potential are going to have to be let go so the next crop can be brought in.
5 classes on campus = 17 players/class = 85 scholarship limit. I think we take 22 or so in every class going forward to account for some attrition. You can bet that we will have some early attrition in the 2013 class as well from guys that just can't cut it at the college level -- just like we did in the 2012 class.
seems to be a disciplinary issue, but I'd take a flyer on him over Ricco at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
Coach made a good point about not needing him.
If only Templeton Hardy would've followed them, what a waste he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo Darville
Griffin (medical)
Muniz
Harrison-Gay
J. Washington
Those are the guys that immediately come to mind for me, although I think some of them still have potential to produce. I think we can probably cut lose of an OLB or two as well and maybe a DB.
ETA: Had Lawson on the list...
Jordan Washington hasn't even had time to show what he can do yet.... Is he that bad off right now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
There has to be a few cuts somewhere- or we will be signing 13-14 guys this Feb....might as well be at a position with lots of young guysQuote:
Originally Posted by missouridawg
I've never seen him play/practice, but he's apparently no head-turner because we hear nothing about him. He was a bit of a head-scratcher signee anyways.
Griffin won't be cut. He can/will come back.
how does harrison-gay play as a true frosh, then never see the field again?
I've never heard a negative word about Washington, just wasn't that impressed with him coming out of high school and think he's going to get left behind by the other players we've pulled into the program. I hope he proves me wrong.
Headscratcher signee? It was us or Ohio State at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by hailmari