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Good, hopefully the NCAA is about to cut out some of this nonsense
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Good, hopefully the NCAA is about to cut out some of this nonsense
Fingers crossed the same for Chambliss....bc **** OM.
Finally a judge with a brain and balls.
Let the GaMES begin*******
It is two entirely separate issues. That is what a lot of State fans are not seeing. The Bediako case and the Chambliss case are only similar in that the NCAA denied them and they went to a state court.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Charles Bediako has played in the G League for 3 years and then decided he wanted to come back for an extra year. He was basing his argument on earning power.
Chambliss, to my knowledge, has never played in the NFL, Arena football, UFL, etc and is trying to get an extra year of eligibility on the basis of Ferris St messing up his records.
They are not remotely the same situation. It is why Chambliss will win and he will play for OM in 2026.
And I do think we?re about to see an NFL guy do this btw. I fully expect there will be a player that was making 7 figures at [insert school] and he goes to the NFL, gets a chance with a team, plays a preseason game, and gets cut. That guy will sue to come back on the basis of the NCAA limiting his earning potential. That is when this thing will get real interesting. The NCAA got a big win yesterday with Bediako. That was the case they needed to go their way, not the Chambliss case. They fully expect that injunction to be granted.
The ncaa moved quickly and got the injunction lifted quickly. The cases are different, but the speed at which this was handled is the news to me. Hopefully they're about to start doing this on all infusions.
Does the NCAA do anything about the games he played for Bama and they won? I did not keep up with the impact he had but had but if an illegal player made me lose a game I would be upset.
I don't think so. That's how the ncaa needs to solve this though. If they rule a player ineligible, and you get an injunction, any wins with that player have to be vacated. Do this and get the injunctions settled quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by SPDawgs
They won't. They had a little bit better of a case with the Bediako stuff because he had forgone his eligibility and had went into the draft. It's why the Baylor kid had a little bit more of a leg to stand on. He had never gone to college.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The Bediako win was important for future cases of G League guys who left early trying to come back(i.e. Amari Bailey) but not much else. It's good that the NCAA finally won a case, but they're going to lose many more before they win another one.
Don't think anyone said the same. Still don't make Chambliss right. He has been denied 3 times for a reason. They got it right the first 3 times. This is BS too for different reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
This is a State board so we don't pull for anything to go well for OM.
Agree they have to establish some order at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I just think we need to be real careful being all high and mighty. Because I think there is a pretty good chance that we are going to try and get Jahron Manning back through the same process.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
You have such a beautiful way with words. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I want it to end for everyone. I also want to limit free transfers to one.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
So we should have gotten Spivey to lawyer up?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Probably so. Although I have heard different things about who was at fault there. Some say it was Spivey's fault but I have to believe that the NCAA rules are so complicated you need someone that can guide you through the process if you are a player. Not sure if TCU dropped the ball or MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
Not being high and mighty. We sat back and watched everyone else cheat for decades. Got to establish some fair rules and enforce. Chambliss for Manning yeah that is an even swap.***Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Oh we cheated too. We just didn't do it as well most of the time. I mean we tried to underpay on Cam Newton. We wouldn't pay what we needed on Chris Jones until literally the last second. We have overpaid guys that weren't worth it plenty of times.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
We cheated. We just sucked at it.
Oh I can come up with a great Blazing Saddles SLim Pickens Quip for this one about Mr Taggarts description of a lady of the night and Hedleys way with words,Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Never said we didn't cheat; it is all relative. Compared to Olemiss we ain't never cheated. That is why they need the Chambliss thing shoved at them.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
What is Chambaliss' argument?
He wants to earn NIL dollars with an additional year? Or that his D2 years should not count?
He red shirted in 2021, did not play in 2022, claims injury in 2022, but he in videos in 2022 on the bench with pads, then played 2 years in D2, and then OM for 1 year.
Are OM dollars more valuable than 2nd or 3rd Round NFL dollars?
Yes. He's guaranteed 5 mil at OM. He's not anywhere near that for a 3rd to 4th Rd pick, which is what he would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
In terms of his argument, he is arguing that Ferris St should've applied for a Med RS for him in 2022. There's also videos out there from announcers saying that he was injured in 2022. He's going to get it so it's honestly a moot point.
FSU couldn't file for a medical rs for him. He had already redshirted in 21. You can only file for a med hardship(meaning he's already rs, you only get one wo the hardship, period) after ones eligibility has expired. Which was after 2025. Getting tired of reading that point when it isn't accurate. eta, I agree hes going to get the year from a judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
You're right. Ferris St can't apply for that for him. The issue that OM is contesting, and the entire basis of their case, is that Ferris St didn't properly document the injury that they are claiming he had. I misspoke on that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Like I said though, moot point. He's going to be OM's starter Week 1.
There are rules and Chambliss and his schools didn't follow them. Case closed and why NCAA ruled 3 times that case is closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Except it is not. There will be an injunction and he will play. Just like Diego Pavia. And hopefully just like Jahron Manning.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Chris Jones payments weren't the reason he almost didn't sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Generally speaking if a player has a legit claim to an injury and it is documented properly they grant a medical redshirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
So if they thought that Chambliss legitimately should get one they would have approved it long ago.
No shit, lol. Me wish-casting here doesn't mean I don't know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Fully aware. I was a part of all that. We just had to go higher than a lot of people wanted to go and then Robert Dunlap finally stepped in and just cut a damn check. Chris signed in a brand new sports coat that we dropped off that morning. The check may or may not have been in the left front pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
The girlfriend, or friend with benefits, he had in Oxford made things more complicated than some of our old heads understood.
Wild nite at the Gin was adventurous
I was fully apart . I know Chris, his mother, and the driving decision keyholder in the situation. I had conversations with Mullen surrounding Chris. Money wasn't the driving factor. It helped but it wasn't the ultimate factor in the situation. Chris is a loyal guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Were you granted the free benefits at the Gin in Oxford too?
The girlfriend muddied things to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
They always do.*******Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve