... has opened an investigation on OM and nothing here?!? Hmmm... I guess my thread title is the overall feeling and the expected outcome is zilch?
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... has opened an investigation on OM and nothing here?!? Hmmm... I guess my thread title is the overall feeling and the expected outcome is zilch?
They can't wait to tell their side of the story ***
There are no rules now
We'd self imposed the death penalty.
It pisses me off that we self report, then cooperate with the NCAA and get shafted. Other programs, with much more serious infractions, fight the NCAA and get little to no penalty.
Might be leverage against OM suing them over chambliss
Here's what I would do if I was Dabo. I'd get with every ACC coach and any other coaches that had players tampered with from Ole Miss and I would get all of those coaches to en masse tamper with their players.
If the NCAA won't do anything you just take matters into your own hands and handle it yourself.
That's a separate issue. We'll see what happens with the basketball player from Alabama because whatever happens there I'm sure the NCAA will follow the same route if they are successful. No idea what will happen with that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
chambliss and pete tampering are 2 different issues. chambliss case is him alone vs the ncaa. i do see what ya'll are saying though.
You can call it separate, but Ole Miss will spend millions to help Chambliss win his case. Can you imagine them going into next season with an unknown QB, and questions about their HC and OC. No way. They expect to be in the playoffs next year. They will assist Trinidad in the only way they know how! $$$$Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Nothing is going to happen. We need to stop wishing for OM to go away and start playing the way they do. It seems to be working a little better.
Unpunished cheating will destroy what's left of college athletics and accelerate the destruction. It will be the proverbial straw that causes fans to find something else to do with their time and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'm willing to bet a sizable amount that won't happen. Ratings are as high as they've ever been and interest in the sport is higher than ever. It may be what causes you to find something else to do with your time and money but not to everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Also, tampering is cheating. Do you want everyone who tampers to be punished. Because if so, we're going to get hammered for it.
Who did we go after from another team's roster, that would have been considered tampering?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Brennen Thompson, Zion Ragins, Dillon Gabriel, Markel Bell, Jordan Seaton, Anthony Evans, Kendel Dolby, Isaiah Autrey-Dent, Jardin Gilbert.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
I could go on. The truth of the matter is that 75-80% of these guys know exactly where they're going before they enter the portal. They're tampered into the portal. If you're not tampering then you'll be left behind.
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We didn't get caught if we did. so there's that. Play the game reckless you get reckless results. All of this everyone is doing this is a crazy take when they're investigated that won't hold up. Ole Miss isn't Alabama or a blue blood they should be nervous.
Did our head coach call them after they signed an FAA? I don't believe so. I believe we contacted their agent or someone close to them to "encourage" them into the portal. That is tampering, but it is not against the establiched rules. What Ole Miss did is clearly and presumably provably against the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
No Lebby straight up called Thompson during the season and told him to get in the portal. We were contacting Bell all season trying to get him in. Same with Evans last year. Hell Lebby's first call when he got the job was to Dillon Gabriel.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
EVERYONE TAMPERS. EVERYONE.
You have no clue about conversations. It sounds good for discussions but Lebby is not stupid enough to let that word out and he's not telling boosters and don't say Bumphis told everyone lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Bumphis didn't have to tell me. Lebby and the GAs were quite open about it. Wasn't some big secret. Wasn't like we were going to get punished for it. And what do you know.....we didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
The only reason we know anything about it is because its Dabo. He's relatively clean when it come to poral violations. The reason no one else has made a stink until now is because they all tamper too. OM just happened to pick on the one guy who's nose is clean enough to crow about it without anyone turning him in for the same crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Never did it ever happen. Coaches aren't that negligentQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Every coach is that “negligent”. Because it is not negligence. It is the environment we live in.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
We're $hitty AND we don't play by the rules. Great. Can't even be proud of at least being clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Why would we want to be clean. Jesus. No one plays by the rules these days. I want us to be dirtier than Ole Miss. If the Saudis want to give us 100 mil in blood money then let’s rollQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
I?ve already given up on college sports. A lawless system is not for me. I bet I didn?t watch 2 hours of college football this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Good God you’ve hit a new low. Peace out.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
So you don’t want to win? That is what I am getting out of this. EVERYONE TAMPERS AND EVERYONE CHEATS. Stop trying to be holier than thou and just play the game. Thankfully we are doing exactly that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgface
Who cares if we’re tampering? When in Rome. This thread is like ugly women complaining about the hot chick in the cul-de-sac having fake tits. If you can afford ‘em, get ‘em.
What you describes us doing was what Dabo called "tampering 101." That's not in the same league as Ole Miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I want to win according to the rules - as they are enforced, not as they are on paper.
Some of the playoff ratings were way down. The Mississippi vs Miami game was horrible. Nightmare for espn.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
It has nothing to do with winning but with keeping one’s integrity and self worth as a human! Just because some or maybe even the majority may act like lemmings and walk/run off the cliff doesn’t mean we should follow the path to destruction! I still think that one day, the non blue blood university sports teams will withdraw from the current alignment and form a new true college league and the blue bloods can continue to be the minors for the “pro” leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The current NIL/TRANSFER arrangement is not sustainable.
Sometimes I really enjoy a simple analogy. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
Correct me if I'm wrong but in this situation with Clemson to my understanding the player in question already had signed a FAA with Clemson and was attending class.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I know there is tampering and we do it- but there has to be a line somewhere. To my knowledge we haven't done anything like that where a guy in the portal goes somewhere else and signs a FAA and then MSU still recruits them and basically just throws money at them until the say no.
I think Dabo is basically saying "Hey, once a guy signs the FAA and is enrolled in classes the portal recruiting for that cycle needs to be over and stop at that point." Now, if Ole Miss wanted to keep recruiting the player and get him in the next portal cycle- that's different. They have to draw the line because otherwise the portal never ends.
They're getting into breach of contract issues here.