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They should also list special teams that cover punts and kickoffs ***
They need to add "for coveted transfers". That isn't the avg when almost all of CFB sucks
I don't understand. The Times published research data that covers a broad range of NIL cost, what are you inferring? And what part sucks the the most, is it us not being any good that diminishes your joy or is there another factor? I'm intrigued to see your point of view here.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
There are 136 FBS schools and a majority don't spend much at all. There's over 200 QBs in the portal ( https://247sports.com/college/transf...positionkey=57 ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
The avg for them will not be 1-4 MM. Just common sense
While your point is a fair one there are alot of back-ups at P4 schools that make 750K-1MM. You also need to understand that alot of schools are indeed spending quite a bit of money. Just because Boise and UNLV arent in a P4 doesnt mean they dont spend. You're bottom 50 dont spend a great deal but hell- even 1-AA schools do NIL now.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I feel we must infer that the very top and bottom aren't part of that data set. Anyway what is coveted? Is us being bad the problem with your enjoyment? I definitely watch the game differently than most, I've officiated it, I still do study the game and interact with those that coach it and officiate it, so the way I watch it is definitely not the way most do.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The very top are absolutely included in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Now do all positions on that list for 138 teams. The list is a great guess for what P4 teams are doing in the portal, but that's nowhere close to the total avgQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
If you get paid NIL money, then you should not be receiving scholarship.
Dude you assume way, way to much and if you think this way about football basketball will shock you.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Keyshawn Murphy got $2MM. Basketball is ridiculous. He is playing 23 mins and going for 10/5.5Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
15 vs 85. That also is common sense... same reason nba players make more than nflQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
What did we just pay the 2 commits in the portal this week?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
more for the WR but if you notice we buy off the bargain shelf quite oftenQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It's not the same here at all, not the point. This isn't a marketplace with rules like the nfl or nb, this is the wild west, common sense has nothing to do with it. I'm done here. Have a nice day.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I would say we are definitely on the lower end of those ranges. And guess what.... there's 40 (prob more) programs out there that will kill for that level of coin. Bc of this, it's absurd to think those avgs are for all the players in the portals. It's the good players, and by good players, I mean those that are pursued by p4 and upper G5 programs (very few).Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He got that for ONE YEAR??!!???!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Exactly, great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Pts and rebounds down while mins basically the same. Glad we didn't match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
ETA... don't take this as I'm happy with who we did spend on. We have our own problems, obviously
And coaches should be making less than the men actually on the field making the plays. Andy Reid is the highest paid coach in the NFL, 120 players make more than him.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
And nfl owners make that decision. We (fans) pay college football players to this point while the schools pay the coaches. Schools should pay them all since they get tge revenueQuote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
This is not directed to you 7 but it's an appropriate place for itQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'm not sure we're all the fans - school stuff started. Prior to big tv contracts, the fans were footing the bill before. All of it. Coaches, stadiums, players( just the money was under the table and all didn't participate for this part ). Now tv contracts pay a portion. And the fans pay the rest. Which isn't new, it's just that in order to compete a greater portion of the fan base has to pony up. So this why are the fans paying for it, isn't some new revelation. How in the hell does the school get there money??? Donations, ticket sales, concessions and or concession contracts, etc. who in the hell do people think have being paying prior to now?? The tooth fairy. The price of poker went up. Who was paying for it really didn't. Our sec money doesn't sniff paying half our ath budget. I understand we wouldn't have a remote chance wo that check. But that check has gone from very small to bigger and bigger starting in about 1992. Prior to that it was pocket change. And in the nil era, again is an important piece for a small player but just a small piece. Small.
Exactly. And we were winning all the woe is me NIL talk would be that it's just the cost of doing business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
This format sucks for us bc... well, we're poor. Not sure this is the best metric to measure NIL, but we have the smallest endowment in the sec. Under the old format, at least you had to weigh risk/reward by going all-in. Now it's just you have money or you don't.
Under this new format, competing in football every season just doesn't seem feasible. Maybe the best plan for football is punt 2 seasons and save and try to do something every 3rd season. That or do what we are: try to compete in sports with less players (MBK and baseball). Trying to fund all 3 seems like a good way to suck at all of them.
Only because we dont have that kind of money for the most part. We buy what we can afford- but in the SEC those are the prices. We gonna find out next January I have a feeling with KT when he gets some 3-5MM offers.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well, if he does then maybe we had success. Now days it would be carry on with business as usual. We most Definitely need scouts and analysis helping with scouting and research as well as game planning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This is where I think MSU often comes up short in the past. We want to be Moneyball but we forget that we have to have the staff to do identity and attract the talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
MSU has never excelled at football recruiting and player acquisition. And never had focused enough on it. So MSU being resistant to the portal and NIL is the least surprising thing to me.
I'm interested in what money ball in football looks like. All I can figure out is some offense that no one runs... something like what the service academies do. This seems like a bad option for excitement, but it could be a path to at least being a bowl team year-in, year-out. The triple option is the last thing I wanna do; but with the massive turnover on teams, it would be like the first time a defense in the sec sees it every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State