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You mean Todd didn't know wtf he was talking about????
Shocked I tell ya**
What did Todd say? I see he's being called out in the threadQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
The only one who does is the folks in Brandon who love the Rogers because Brad Peterson hired Barbay who changed the offense.
I like Todd but he is way off on this.
He has stated multiple times that Bookie had to be physically restrained from Arnett after the Kentucky game because Arnett went in the locker room and said that two more wins in HIS job was safe. I’ve had that story told me a dozen times by people who love Zach Arnett and people who hated Zach Arnett. That story is true. However, you can get pissed at somebody in the heat of the moment in the locker room after a loss after they said something stupid, and it was stupid, but still think the guy is a good defensive coordinator. Because he is a good defensive coordinator. He just sucks as a head coach. But we didn’t hire him to be that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Some of y’all using your personal handles to tag Todd? Lmao
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And not surprised that MSU is trying hard to frame this as "don't remember 2023 that didn't count."
Todd and others have legitimate concerns about this hire as do I. Now, I?m not going to completely dog it because Arnett had decent defenses under Leach, but it just seems like the usual panic MSU hire.
Wait what?? I thought he was going to beat za's ass???Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Damn, Todd going all in on bashing the hire on X. Not a good look, like a child throwing a tantrum.
So, which concern isn't a legit concern? I'm just curious here because right now all fans have right now is "hope" as in "I hope he has learned a lesson." And you know what? Maybe he has learned some lessons and is better than ever before. But until he proves that the concerns are still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dawgnight15
When you hire a figure that was a part of the downfall of a program back you are going to have fans that have concerns and I am far from the only one.
You act as though ZA never did anything right. You went on twitter to insinuate that a former player had issues with the hire, only to be proven wrong.
So because a player tweets an emoji it means that they never had an issue with the coach? Got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dawgnight15
MSU fans don't understand that it's not always that black and white. You can have issues with someone and then still be Ok with them. It's not "the players loved so and so all the time" or "the players hates so and so" the entire time either.
Absolutely correct, but for you to go out of your way to name drop Boobie out of spite for Arnett is childish. Especially since you are a State fan. I?ll say this about OM, their fans pull in the same direction for their school. You intentionally tried to bash our new DC by insinuating one of his players would hate the hire.
Todd, you overreacted and made yourself look stupid. Just own it and move on.
I've done it. The times I fought it, I looked bad...the times I owned it, it ended quickly.
You can not love the hire but still not be an emotional basket case about it.
It's much easier to pull in the same direction when MSU doesn't make divisive decisions. They do not always do things that help with that. The interlocking MSU is exhibit A of that isn't it? It took them 20+ years to come back to that even though fans wanted it for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dawgnight15
How would Ole Miss fans react if they replaced Kiffin with Coach O? Some would say he did well at LSU and won a NC. Some would point out that he had issues winning at Ole Miss and only won because of Joe Burrow. It's easy to pull in the same direction when you are 11-1 and your schedule is easy.
The incident with Bookie has been confirmed in this thread. You can believe it or not. The mistake I made was taking what happened in the locker room into the public and I should not have done that. That doesn't change what happened and it was more than one player that issues with Arnett.
Ole Ari Gold. I miss him posting here.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
My real frustration is MSU makes these types of moves repeatedly. I keep thinking oh we learned our lesson now but no.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Maybe MSU is due for it to work out for once.
Could have been in the works for a while given our struggles the last third of the year. We will probably never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
Ole miss is 11-1 and in the CFP and about to play in the second round because their draw is a joke?AND THEY HIRED THEIR DC as full time HC because kiffin wouldn?t commit to then and they believed he would stay anyway. And their fan base is lapping it up like it was the greatest thing that ever happened to their program. They?re even talkin about how weis coming back is totally different than kiffin being allowed to coach when in reality it?s the exact same. They?re morons but they read the talkin points and stay in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah. It was definitely out of left field.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBobDawg
Just an observation. It seems like Lebby locks in on one guy for DC whether it's Durkin or Pry and if it doesn't work out it seems like he panics and does something like this or hire Hutzler. I just wish he was a little more thorough and be open to more than one guy.
I kind of wonder if Arnett just contacted Lebby and said hey if you have an opening I'll take it. Could have been that simple. I don't really know the whole story yet.
We had fans that were the same with Arnett as head coach after we were 9-4. Remember Barbay Bombs? I had fans telling me that Barbay was better than Leach. LOL. Come to think of it one of them was the guy that started this damn thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
Here's what makes me feel a little bit better about this situation. It appears as if it was Lebby acting on his own and not MSU. That tells me that Arnett probably wasn't pushed onto us by some booster. And there are rumors that MSU has talked to Arnett about the situation last time and is trying to put some guardrails into place to prevent what happened last time with boosters having too much influence. I don't know that MSU can eliminate that but at least it seems like they are aware of the potential there and they likely made it clear that the leash is short.
I bet Arnett reached out to Lebby. I remember reading a story about he and his family loved Starkville. Ithink he bought a farm and had cows and horse. I don’t hate this hire, he was ok as DC. Good players make good coaches.
If OM hired O has a DL coach, which is what he has had success at, their fans would love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He still owns it.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog