We are about to find out how good of a coach we have

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10-05-2025, 08:41 AM
Cowbell

We are about to find out how good of a coach we have

I like Lebby. Honestly wasn't thrilled with the hire based on my OU connections that hated his play calling. He did cost them a couple of important games there but he also won them a bunch. I think he's a young coach still evolving and he is the right fit for State and I'm excited we have him.

That said, we are about to find out if he is better than just a good fit. It's obvious to my dog even that we are very weak in areas and very beat up. His offensive scheme is going to have to be altered going forward for us to have any chance. Concrete shoes on your QB ain't gonna work if we can't block. I hope we start seeing some changes in two weeks because if not, we are gonna see a lot more of last night.
10-05-2025, 09:05 AM
Santiago

I think just from last year to this year we see how good he is. He played the number 6 team at their place. Now let's go get some wins .
10-05-2025, 09:26 AM
HoopsDawg

We have the right guy at head coach. I don?t see anything the rest of the season changing my opinion on that.
10-05-2025, 09:28 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We have the right guy at head coach. I don?t see anything the rest of the season changing my opinion on that.

While I agree on Lebby, I wouldn't go as far as you did in sentence 2. This is gonna be a rough season (it always was gonna be), and I don't wanna see the team quit once these losses start piling up
10-05-2025, 09:38 AM
EdwardDrayton

There's some good and then there's some not so good. We will see if he figures it out.
10-05-2025, 09:39 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

While I agree on Lebby, I wouldn't go as far as you did in sentence 2. This is gonna be a rough season (it always was gonna be), and I don't wanna see the team quit once these losses start piling up

If they didnt quit last year, I dont see them quitting this year.
10-05-2025, 09:40 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

If they didn?t quit last year, I don't see them quitting this year.

That's true, but 4-0 to potentially 4-8 is different.

ETA.. I think we get 1 of ark and OM. Need both though. I think 5-7 is final record
10-05-2025, 09:59 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

That's true, but 4-0 to potentially 4-8 is different.

ETA.. I think we get 1 of ark and OM. Need both though. I think 5-7 is final record

I think 7-5 if we get some players back. We win both of those plus either Florida or Texas. I think we've played our toughest opponents already. aTm on the road was almost impossible and I think Tennessee is the best team in the country.
10-05-2025, 10:04 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I like Lebby. Honestly wasn't thrilled with the hire based on my OU connections that hated his play calling. He did cost them a couple of important games there but he also won them a bunch. I think he's a young coach still evolving and he is the right fit for State and I'm excited we have him.

That said, we are about to find out if he is better than just a good fit. It's obvious to my dog even that we are very weak in areas and very beat up. His offensive scheme is going to have to be altered going forward for us to have any chance. Concrete shoes on your QB ain't gonna work if we can't block. I hope we start seeing some changes in two weeks because if not, we are gonna see a lot more of last night.

To your first paragraph, Kiffin cost Alabama several big games when he was their OC. His playcalling was terrible at times. But I guess you could also say he won them a lot of games. (It was really Saban and talent)
10-05-2025, 10:05 AM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by msstate7

That's true, but 4-0 to potentially 4-8 is different.

ETA.. I think we get 1 of ark and OM. Need both though. I think 5-7 is final record

We will beat Texas and Florida to go 6-6. Outside shot at Arkansas but we have historically struggles there for whatever reason. Egg Bowl you just never know but if we don’t get some depth by then it will end like the A&M game. Close for the first half then blowout in the back half
10-05-2025, 10:08 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

We will beat Texas and Florida to go 6-6. Outside shot at Arkansas but we have historically struggles there for whatever reason. Egg Bowl you just never know but if we don’t get some depth by then it will end like the A&M game. Close for the first half then blowout in the back half

Except for the part that ole miss has a terrible defense and aTm has the best defense we will face all season. I say 7-5 is still a real possibility.
10-05-2025, 10:13 AM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

While I agree on Lebby, I wouldn't go as far as you did in sentence 2. This is gonna be a rough season (it always was gonna be), and I don't wanna see the team quit once these losses start piling up

They didn't last year in a much worse year/team, I can't see them doing it this year. Lebby seems to have the culture and discipline angle handled. Now he needs to get the personnel
10-05-2025, 10:14 AM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Except for the part that ole miss has a terrible defense and aTm has the best defense we will face all season. I say 7-5 is still a real possibility.

Maybe. I’d love to see that. But without Reese, Fluff, Smith, and a banged of Brennan I just don’t see it. Plus our leading pass rush out for the season. This will end up being a shoulda’, woulda’, coulda’ year just based on injuries. It’s a shame. Could have been a special season.
10-05-2025, 10:21 AM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Maybe. I’d love to see that. But without Reese, Fluff, Smith, and a banged of Brennan I just don’t see it. Plus our leading pass rush out for the season. This will end up being a shoulda’, woulda’, coulda’ year just based on injuries. It’s a shame. Could have been a special season.

No idea on Fluff but Reese and Smith should be back after the bye. Brennan is fine, he caught a bomb last night and would've had a 2nd if the OL blocked another half second.
10-05-2025, 10:41 AM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

No idea on Fluff but Reese and Smith should be back after the bye. Brennan is fine, he caught a bomb last night and would've had a 2nd if the OL blocked another half second.

What happened to Fluff? Leg/foot? Honestly I fell asleep around the beginning the 4th quarter…had a long past few days of partying too hard in Nashville and it caught up with me last night.
10-05-2025, 10:55 AM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

What happened to Fluff? Leg/foot? Honestly I fell asleep around the beginning the 4th quarter…had a long past few days of partying too hard in Nashville and it caught up with me last night.

Ankle it seemed. Carted off but no air cast. Got rolled up on. Best case would be high ankle sprain and he can return at some point before season end.
10-05-2025, 11:17 AM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

What happened to Fluff? Leg/foot? Honestly I fell asleep around the beginning the 4th quarter…had a long past few days of partying too hard in Nashville and it caught up with me last night.

I thought it was a bad sprain based on what they did for him on field. Hopefully 4 weeks.
10-05-2025, 11:41 AM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

We will beat Texas and Florida to go 6-6. Outside shot at Arkansas but we have historically struggles there for whatever reason. Egg Bowl you just never know but if we don?t get some depth by then it will end like the A&M game. Close for the first half then blowout in the back half

Florida has a talented defense. They sacked Manning 6 times yesterday. That doesn't bode well for Shapen and the offense.
10-05-2025, 11:45 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

We will beat Texas and Florida to go 6-6. Outside shot at Arkansas but we have historically struggles there for whatever reason. Egg Bowl you just never know but if we don’t get some depth by then it will end like the A&M game. Close for the first half then blowout in the back half

How much money would you be willing to bet that we beat Texas and Florida? I'm I'm interested in a wager on that.
10-05-2025, 11:46 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Santiago

I think just from last year to this year we see how good he is. He played the number 6 team at their place. Now let's go get some wins .

That's the point of the post. I think we have the right guy. But just how good is he? We are about to find out
10-05-2025, 11:47 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

To your first paragraph, Kiffin cost Alabama several big games when he was their OC. His playcalling was terrible at times. But I guess you could also say he won them a lot of games. (It was really Saban and talent)

100% agree but I will also say that I believe Kiffin has improved as an offensive coach. He still makes some bad calls at times but I think he's a good coach.
10-05-2025, 11:50 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We have the right guy at head coach. I don?t see anything the rest of the season changing my opinion on that.

I don't think anybody is debating if we have the right guy. He's definitely done well enough here to prove that. But he also has the ability to improve and adapt and become better than yesterday.
10-05-2025, 11:52 AM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

100% agree but I will also say that I believe Kiffin has improved as an offensive coach. He still makes some bad calls at times but I think he's a good coach.

Kiffin's biggest weakness is his arrogance. Rather than admit bad decisions, he doubles down, determined to prove he's ultimately right. That leads to continuing bad coaching decisions.
10-05-2025, 12:48 PM
Cowbell

The Cowboys right now are putting on a clinic on how to handle pressure when you're working with second string offensive lineman,. Look at the amount of screens and quick throws.
10-05-2025, 12:50 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

The Cowboys right now are putting on a clinic on how to handle pressure when you're working with second string offensive lineman,. Look at the amount of screens and quick throws.

As Dak says, pressure is only pressure when there's no plan.
10-05-2025, 01:02 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I don't think anybody is debating if we have the right guy. He's definitely done well enough here to prove that. But he also has the ability to improve and adapt and become better than yesterday.

We all do
10-05-2025, 03:22 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

As Dak says, pressure is only pressure when there's no plan.

That was the best quote of the game. Dead on.
10-05-2025, 04:40 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

100% agree but I will also say that I believe Kiffin has improved as an offensive coach. He still makes some bad calls at times but I think he's a good coach.

He's a much better coach these days. Age and experience.
10-05-2025, 04:41 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Kiffin's biggest weakness is his arrogance. Rather than admit bad decisions, he doubles down, determined to prove he's ultimately right. That leads to continuing bad coaching decisions.

Agree 100%. It drove me crazy watching his play calling at Bama when they would play ole miss.
10-06-2025, 11:18 AM
CaptainObvious

I think "most" of us expected to lose Saturday night. The performance gave pause to accept that he is the right guy with respect to starting 4-0 and finishing 5-7 or 4-8. Those results would indicate He cannot prepare the team on HOW to beat a couple of teams on the schedule that are more closely aligned to our talent level.

I've seen some say you can't hold last year against him! Bull Crap. Did we hold 2023 against Our former D-coordinator? Have we continue to "blame" our DEAD HC for the past 2 seasons? Then heck YES! We can hold Lebby accountable for 2024's debacle.
10-06-2025, 01:50 PM
DownwardDawg

He has to make some offensive adjustments before the Florida game if we are to have a chance at winning.
Short quick passes to the RB's similar to Leach's system. Lots of RTDGFB along with those short passes. Then take your shots downfield.
Also I would love to see Kamario get a few possessions in some situations other than inside the 5 yard line. That's just too predictable. That might help get the D off balance a little bit.
10-06-2025, 03:42 PM
AROB44

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

I think "most" of us expected to lose Saturday night. The performance gave pause to accept that he is the right guy with respect to starting 4-0 and finishing 5-7 or 4-8. Those results would indicate He cannot prepare the team on HOW to beat a couple of teams on the schedule that are more closely aligned to our talent level.

I've seen some say you can't hold last year against him! Bull Crap. Did we hold 2023 against Our former D-coordinator? Have we continue to "blame" our DEAD HC for the past 2 seasons? Then heck YES! We can hold Lebby accountable for 2024's debacle.

👎 Disagree with everything in this post.
10-06-2025, 03:59 PM
Pancho

i think cap'n obvious is on the sauce

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