DC Hutzler

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08-30-2025, 03:37 PM
MrCoachKlein

DC Hutzler

I was looking at the pregame notes on the hail state site earlier this week. Our defense was garbage last year obviously, but I did notice it was a dumpster fire in first halves based on their stats and just next day thrown away crawfish the 2nd half of games. 2 ways to take that. Hutzler is good at adjustments or teams let off the gas.

Based on today's evidence seems like the former. Granted its a sample size of 1. I get why lebby didn't want to burn down the house on that side of the ball with the lack of talent we had. It'd be like judging a qb playing with uber drivers at wr and ol.
08-30-2025, 04:00 PM
chef dixon

We are improved for sure. We looked faster and our corners were a pleasant surprise. They were actually covering properly. D line is still not great, but improved from the disaster it was last year.
08-30-2025, 04:02 PM
Bothrops

We still have no pass rush.
08-30-2025, 04:03 PM
MrCoachKlein

I'm curious if we had more of a mush rush thing going on. Don't want to get deeper than qb if they are a legit run threat and braxton is.

I didn't like the space we played with in the front 7. Gave them a lot of 5 man boxes. Even 4 at times. Can't argue with the result though.
08-30-2025, 04:06 PM
MrCoachKlein

Seemed like the game plan was just keep 3 bigs in on the line and play a lot of zone with 7-8 behind it. Make braxton beat you with 40 5 yard completions.
08-30-2025, 04:07 PM
chef dixon

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We still have no pass rush.

True. We are definitely better against the run at least. I am still traumatized with Toledo going in dry on our front 7
08-30-2025, 04:16 PM
AlSwearengen

Last year was such a mess as far as personnel, I don?t know how any coach could be judged fairly. You had Leech, who recruited niche type players and kept 20 wr on the roster, the Arnette debacle, and a fanbase that did/does not embrace NIL in a conference that loves to throw money around if it means winning games.

It looks like the talent is much improved from last year but make no mistake, MSU doesn?t have the resources to go from 2-10 to 10-2 in one year. We have to be patient and try to improve gradually from year to year.
08-30-2025, 04:16 PM
DEDawg

Anyone see if Stonka got snaps at S? Saw he got one carry but don?t remember hearing his name on D
08-30-2025, 04:16 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We still have no pass rush.

We do when we have 4 DL, 3 not so much.
08-30-2025, 04:20 PM
MrCoachKlein

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We do when we have 4 DL, 3 not so much.

Whitson and reed had some moments. Didn't notice much from our actual edge guys
08-30-2025, 05:15 PM
99jc

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We do when we have 4 DL, 3 not so much.

When you play 3 man front you better have a beast at nose tackle.
08-30-2025, 05:19 PM
PGHBulldogBG

There seem to certainly be improvements defensively. The tackling is a lot better and the overall defensive talent is better. Winning in the SEC is going to be hard, but it makes me feel better knowing we at least have a defense that is closer to SEC talent. Last year we had a lower tier MAC defense
08-30-2025, 05:31 PM
Coach34

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We do when we have 4 DL, 3 not so much.

Yeah we were alot better when we had 4 down
08-30-2025, 06:31 PM
archdog

We didn?t blitz, and we only ran like one stunt. Mostly 3 DL with 5 to block them.
08-30-2025, 09:58 PM
Thick

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99jc

When you play 3 man front you better have a beast at nose tackle.

^^^This^^^
08-30-2025, 10:12 PM
DawgFromOxford

Speed seems to be better or USM is slow or both. Seemed to tackle pretty which was nice to see
08-31-2025, 12:32 AM
Cowbeller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach34

Yeah we were alot better when we had 4 down

Hutz will realize this off film this week or be job searching by year end. 5-0 is possible if our D gets it
08-31-2025, 09:37 AM
msudawg1200

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein

I was looking at the pregame notes on the hail state site earlier this week. Our defense was garbage last year obviously, but I did notice it was a dumpster fire in first halves based on their stats and just next day thrown away crawfish the 2nd half of games. 2 ways to take that. Hutzler is good at adjustments or teams let off the gas.

Based on today's evidence seems like the former. Granted it's small sample size of 1. I get why lebby didn't want to burn down the house on that side of the ball with the lack of talent we had. It'd be like judging a qb playing with uber drivers at wr and ol.

I think it was mainly because we were getting our asses handed to us at halftime and the opponents played backups most of the 2nd half and melted clock, hence why the stats looked better.
08-31-2025, 09:37 AM
Ezsoil

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We still have no pass rush.

I think some of that was by design ...I think they had a mentality to contain a mobile QB as the priority which they did for the most part
08-31-2025, 10:09 AM
Harrydawg

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

I think it was mainly because we were getting our asses handed to us at halftime and the opponents played backups most of the 2nd half and melted clock, hence why the stats looked better.

So you think USM played back ups the whole second half on D? Really? Do you really think that was the case?
08-31-2025, 10:35 AM
State82

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Originally Posted by Harrydawg

So you think USM played back ups the whole second half on D? Really? Do you really think that was the case?

He was referring to stats from last year.
08-31-2025, 09:07 PM
NCDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bothrops

We still have no pass rush.

And therein lies a huge problem to have a real competitive team.
08-31-2025, 09:21 PM
PGHBulldogBG

I will be the first to say I was not impressed with the Lebby hire, but at least it?s wasn?t Moorhead level bad. Rome wasn?t built in a day so I am willing to give him time to see what he can do. Honestly if he can win 5 games this year that is a big win. There is definitely significant improvement defensively It?s not a very good defense, but it?s majorly improved from last year. The OL is clearly problematic, but I do trust Lebby offensively to fix it. We just got to keep moving forward and see what the year brings.
08-31-2025, 09:35 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Hutz will realize this off film this week or be job searching by year end. 5-0 is possible if our D gets it

Tenn is alot better than we are right now
09-01-2025, 07:49 AM
Brobi-wan

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Tenn is alot better than we are right now

I’m with you on this. I don’t see us being 5-0. I think there’s a game or two that we can steal. I’m not a believer that Tenn is one.
09-01-2025, 06:56 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Brobi-wan

I’m with you on this. I don’t see us being 5-0. I think there’s a game or two that we can steal. I’m not a believer that Tenn is one.

I may be wrong but Tenn looked better at QB since the guy left for UCLA and that may end up being a blessing for them.

I like our chances at UPig better than Tenn at home
09-01-2025, 07:17 PM
ZedFedder

Iamaleava struggled big time for UCLA. Dude certainly has all the tools and more, but it sounds like his family and himself may hinder him from ever becoming what he was meant to be. He would have become a legit Heisman contender at Tenn, but he wanted more.
09-01-2025, 07:40 PM
DEDawg

TN will be interesting because they?re down their top 2 corners. If we are 4-0 it?s because we established ground dominance so TN could come in stacking the box and our game plan is to have Shapens coming out party. That one will be fun I think