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This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.
I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?
Every game but Georgia is "upsettable". Arkansas / OM / Florida / UTKnox / Aggy / Mizz / Texsa / Georgia in order of there's a chance to no shot. You could grab 3 of those if things break wrong for other teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
A 4-1 State team is just as likely as a 2-3 or 1-4 start.
See I think UGA is more gettable than Texas. Texas is very good and they have a QB. UGA is breaking in a new QB that doesn't seem as good as either of the last two and has less weapons than the last two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Yea but I don't like Texsa or the name Manning so I'm interjecting personal bias into my evaluation.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Also I'd put the ASU game around the Florida / UTKnox realm.
Just some perspective:Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Arch Manning has 95 career pass attempts. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...6/arch-manning
Gunner Stockton has 83 career pass attempts. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...unner-stockton
Both these teams will be breaking in new QBs.
Well but Arch has starts and he played in games in big time moments last year. It's akin to Tebow when he took over for Lee. He was ready to take over.Quote:
Originally Posted by MStateDawg
I just don't see us beating a team that just made the playoffs and got much better throughout the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If that game decides Lebby's career, then he's in big trouble.
Arch started vs ULM & State last year. Not exactly stellar defenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Stockton played the 2nd half of the SEC Championship Game and UGA's playoff game versus Notre Dame.
If anything, Stockton has more experience in big time situations.
I don't think either are possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I am not a Lebby fan and even I don?t think that game should decide his career. It?s just one game in a long season. If he can win 4 he gets one more year to prove he can take us to a bowl game. If he does that I will start believing. Until then, he has proven nothing. His recruiting is bad high school wise. Portal pretty OK though given the situation. At the same time I understand we need stability and if he can show steady improvement each year then that?s good progress considering the horrible situation he inherited
1. No one with realistic expectations thinks we?ll get 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
2. ASU is not must win, but the other 3 non conference games are.
3. Levee?s floor is 4, lose one of the non conference games means he?ll need to beat Ark or Misery on the road or OM at home.
4. Win 6 and Levee is national coach of the year.
i don't know why but i think we get 6 wins. this team will be much better than that stank show last year!Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Fair post. Refreshing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
Win 3 of Ar, OM, Tenn, Mizz, or Fl. Just have to hope we are a little better than we think we may be. Run the ball and control the games. Try in some way to keep our defense off the field or at least fresher so they don’t get gassed. Shorten the games to hopefully keep them close.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Not having a legit run game last year kept the Lebby offense stagnant. If we have a decent run game this year it is going to open it up for Shapen.
Winning vs ASU would do a lot to give Lebby and the team a big boost. It would mean 6 wins is very possible.
Run game got better towards the end. We need to pick up where we left off there and improve upon it. The RB room looks pretty good! Hope the OL pans out. If so, we will be a much better team than last year. Oh and the OL keeps Shapen upright and injury free. Hard to win with the situation we had last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I figure Lebby wins the first 4. Just a feeling. I said win them, not by much but wins.
Yep, spot on. The run game got better but our true freshmen QB couldn't exploit it. He just didn't have the reps and experience. I think we are going to be considerably better on both sides of the ball. We'll have a decent shot at winning 6 games. If we don't, well it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
The product is noticeably improved but we play in the SEC..........
I'm not sure I see a way to 6 wins with ASU. Lebby has to win 4 and be competitive in most games. I'm not optimistic that we're going to manage that.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Just being competitive and not getting blown out every sec game will be nice. We've lost 12 straight sec games by double digits.
I think the ASU game is the biggest of his career so far. I?ll be there for it. I?ll watch us go big or implode.
You mean win one of these?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
The issue is our schedule is beyond brutal. We can be much improved and only win 4 (3 really).Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
Well the OP said how do we get to six wins but lose to ASU so you got to win 3 non con and 3 sec. Tall task I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Our defense not being able to get off the field was a bigger factor to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
You don?t get to six wins without ASU, and there?s a world where you don?t get to 4 without them either? This is also assuming we beat USM in Hattiesburg at 11AM in 110 degree heat. The most MSU thing of all time would be going down there and shitting the bed, and if that happens put a fork in Lebby, ASU won?t matter.
They both cost us points and maybe two extra wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Texas, UGA, and Arizona State are our 3 toughest games in my opinion. Arizona State returns more starters than almost any team in the nation. They are loaded. Have continuity. And we play them early. Terrible recipe for us. If we win that game, we're absolutely bowling. Lose and we still have an outside chance.
People thinking ASU is not a top 4-5 team on our schedule is an out of place "SEC-bias" to me.
Yep. They return 17 starters, including their qb is who Big 12 preseason player of the year.
Have my tickets and will be there with bells on. :)
It is nice and fun to dream. Reality will not be so nice and fun.
We should be 2-0 when we see AZ State. This game will be a view into the rest of the season for sure.
Did we add a Week 0 game without me knowing????Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
my bad, had a brain fart and thought alcorn was game 2. oops
ASU beat us by 7 points at their house they had a NFL running back and we had a lame duck coach who drives naked through Wendys. I don't know where the 17 yawls brain cells are. I think now we beat the shit out of them!
Bro. Lebby was our coach when they beat us. Talk about brain cells......Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
just trying to show how stupid our fans our thinking this shitty team will come to our house and beat us....Time to get our swag back!Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
"This shitty team" went to the playoffs last year and will be preseason top 15. We have to have this win to get to 6 IMO, which is why I say it's the most important game of the Lebby era because we HAVE to find a way to win 6 this year, but acting like this is some throwaway game where we'll walk in and dirt roll them is having way too much belief in a team that went 2-10 last year. It's also the exact type of belief that we had last year rolling into Tempe.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
Saying all that, I don't think they'll be as good this year because I don't think Sam Leavitt can carry a team. He feels a little Nick Marshall-ish to me. Not that they play the same style but in 13 Marshall had all those weapons around him and everyone thought he was a great QB. In 14 those weapons left and they went 8-5.
ASU rolled when Skattebo rolled. If a defense shut down Skat then the team struggled. They will miss Skat this season. That was a bad ass white boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve