Being as though we are less than 4 weeks from preseason camp, any insight into what is expected?
QB - Shapen, LK, Taylor
RB - Booth, Bothwell, Daniels
TE - British
WR - ?
OL - ?
Defense?
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Being as though we are less than 4 weeks from preseason camp, any insight into what is expected?
QB - Shapen, LK, Taylor
RB - Booth, Bothwell, Daniels
TE - British
WR - ?
OL - ?
Defense?
Before the portal we could name the roster 2 deep. Now haven't a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I'm not a football guy... is Luke Kromenhoek not that good? Shapen still the man?
Didn't Shapen QB the Toledo game?
Kromenhoek is a more talented version of Fitzgerald. He can play and COULD be deadly in this system. Unfortunately for him, he may have the second coming of Cam Newton also in the QB room with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
As for Shapen, yes he QB’d the Toledo game. Our first 3 drives in that game had 2 killer penalties and 2 sacks where Shapen had about a second to throw. On our fourth drive, we get a false start penalty at the 1 after Shapen had driven us down there and had to settle for a FG. Our 5th drive, after we are down 21-3, Shapen again gets sacked and it kills the drive. You can blame stuff on Shapen last year, but the Toledo game is not something he should catch blame for.
Don't understand the blame that Shapen gets for Toledo at all. If he threw 3-5 interceptions and was below 50% completing his passes and maybe had a fumble or two in there then Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Our defense gave up 41 points and our offensive line simply didn't show up.
A lot of new faces. Shapen, Booth, Traore, and Albert Reese might be the only familiar ones on offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Defense I'm guessing Kai McClendon, Branden Jennings, Isaac Smith, Kelley Jones, and Stonka will be the most familiar faces.
Shapen is pretty good and we probably win the Egg with him at QB. I dont know anything about Hawk. But I can tell you this, Kamario Taylor is the best QB we have ever signed out of HS. At the state championship game you could hear the ball leave his hand and that was with 25k in the stands. He is the real deal. I think he needs to play. It would be huge for this fan base to have another player to really rally around that loves State.
He's going to be special. I want to see how he looks against some of the OOC teams before we play him more. I usually typically err on the side of redshirting with QB's because of the level of development that most need even if they are elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I would play Kamario as quickly as I could.
If he?s what they say, sooner the better.
It will help everything - probably recruiting in MS to name the most obvious.
I'll take a really wild guess at the depth chart
QB- Blake Shapen with Kamario Taylor as the back up.
RB1- Davon Booth
RB2- Fluff Bothwell
RB3- Xavier Gayten
H-Back/FB- Max Reese
WR- Ayden Williams
WR- SanFrisco Magee
Slot- Brenen Thompson- he seemed to appear a lot on highlight videos from MSU.
Slot- Cam Thompson
Slot- Anthony Evans
WR- Markus Allen
WR- Ricky Johnson
TE- Sam West
H-Back/WR- Seydou Traore
Secret redzone weapon- Emeka Iloh
C- Brennan Smith
G- Trevor Mayberry
G- Blake Steen
LT- Albert Reese
RT- Jimothy Lewis
DE- Trevion Williams if he is healthy, maybe Jaray Bledsoe
DT- Will Whitson
DT- Kai McClendon
DE- Jamil Burroughs- I have a really good feeling about him
MLB- Branden Jennings
OLB- Jalen Smith or Zakari Tillman
EDGE- Raishen Thomas or Malik Sylla- probably in that order
STAR- Isaac Smith
CB- Kelley Jones
CB- Dwight Lewis
S- Jahron Manning
S- Tony Mitchell
S- Stonka
K- Kyle Ferrie
P- Ethan Pulliam
KO- Marlon Hauck
LS- Ethan Myers
KR/PR- Cam Thompson
KR/PR- Brenen Thompson
I'm honestly surprised it didn't help last year. You can tell the guy is special. I do like that we have his brother committed and I like Jayden Cration and Zayvion Cotton as weapons for the future. We need some more weapons for the future like JJ Hill but we are off to a decent start there.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
The thing with Kamario is that it's in everyone's best interests if he's able to play in 4 this year, keep the RS, and then compete with Kromenhoek in the Spring. Because that means 1. Shapen stayed healthy and 2. Shapen probably got us to 5-7 wins. That would build A TON of juice with Kamario waiting in the wings AND people not seeing him and raising his price. Because if he plays, no matter how he does, his price would be raised astronomically just due to his physical abilities. It's a bit like Van Buren. Did his talent pop off the charts last year from his play? No. But he has a rocket launcher attached to his right shoulder and has some mobility. That alone is going to raise the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
And KBJ and TrevionQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Actually heard some encouraging things on Trevion. KBJ may have trouble seeing much of the field this year. There's going to be a ton of new faces over there. The only starters to return will probably be Issac and Kelley.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Agree on some of it. Burroughs is a DT all day though. He's 6'3 330. That's not DE. I also think some are forgetting about the NC State transfer Red Hibbler. A lot of good things around him and I think he'll factor in at a DE spot. He's got really good bend off the edge and I know Dancey is high on him. On corner, don't sleep on Hunter Washington. Staff has been really high on him and I know MacIntyre is really high on him and he's going to be helping out a lot with that back end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It's not the players I worry about its the defensive coach. If we start giving up 30 plus points a game Lebby better can him fast or it will cost him his job. Everyone got a pass last season due to the cluster we had but they had better make big strides this season or I'm done.
Well having an actual defense is going to help out a lot in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
If Trevion moves outside more, I'm excited to see what happens. There are times when he looks like the next Fletcher Cox but he just hasn't put it together yet. Maybe this is the year?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We just need to get some momentum. Taylor, Hill, coming in with some current guys stepping up and either becoming who we thought they could be or a few more surprising us. When this happens in our history, MSU shows up. Guess my long MSU history just can't see a long dry spell. Too much talent in Miss. We need to get the LOS fixed on both sides and we can be in business.
How about getting back to the basics with the DL. Insure that they know how to blow off the ball and get penetration and at least plug the dam holes. Last year they were getting blown off the LOS and getting pushed back 5 yards. I don't know if anyone else noticed last year but the RTGDFB is making a comeback.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
QB's don't play defense.
You don't think Nic Mitchell starts at MLB? What about Hunter Washington at one of the safeties? No Johnnie Daniels at a RB? You think Gullette from Texas and Sanders from NIU will get many reps at backer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
These discussions always interest me. Not necessarily that I expect inside knowledge from those with great insight and connections, but the contrast in the descriptions. The we won't suck quite as bad as last year but it will be close - and the we actually have great players at that position that will be buried in the depth chart, at multiple positions. I understand that both can be true to some degree but a bunch of cup half fulls and cup half emptys talking about how the water will taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
For the record, I think we will be noticeably better with somewhat reasonable chance at 5 wins and an all the planets align shot at 6. This is not an inside scoop, just my thoughts.
I think we will be markedly better on both sides of the ball, but I'm just not wholly confident that the record will show it. I mean we could be a WHOLE LOT better and still go 5-7.Quote:
Originally Posted by NWADAWG
5-7 is a wildly better win/loss record from last year. With this schedule, that will show a lot especially if that defense gets back to what Mississippi State should be putting on the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yeah football ain't rocket science that everyone makes it out to be. The team that wins LOS, wins the game. We lost our identity as a program since 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
This all day. We've stopped winning in the trenches and until we get that back- it will remain a struggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Defense was a joke last year and the same coaches are back. Having more talent can help, but is not the end all be all. We made no adjustments in game and seemed lost most of the season. Unless there is marked improvement from a defensive coaching and scheme standpoint, there will be little significant improvement in the defense. With our schedule a minimal improvement in defense will equate to
8-10 losses.
There is no scheme in the world that works with bad talent. The ball always finds youQuote:
Originally Posted by No BS Dawg
Fully agree, but even a decent defensive coaching staff can use scheme to mask some deficiencies and make them less prominent. Our staff did not even do that. We did not even adjust alignment half the time based on offensive shifts and what their strong side was.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
thats what the 2 analysts are for
I still say no staff, even at State, should go 2-10 and 0-8 and I've seen it all in person since 1963. We are the "Washington Generals" of the SEC at this time. Nothing but winning our share and being competent and competitive in losses will change this!Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
Exactly- these guys were brought in to help game plan and scout. We will be there from a coaching standpoint on D for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Talent still remains a question
We shall see, hoping you are correct on the coaching side of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We will actually have a run game this season. Not being able to run the ball last season cost us a lot. We will have a much better run game that will open up shots downfield for Shapen.
Half the guys on defense last year wouldn't make the 2 deep at Millsaps. And that being said, the defense actually improved some as the season went on. With the upgrade in talent I expect us to have at least an average SEC defense which means we get enough stops to give the offense ample opportunities to score.
Half? I'd be willing to say that 85% of our D last year, and a couple of starters, couldn't have started, or seen the field, at any other SEC school and very few P4 schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I was being generous for sure. Most of them wouldn't qualify to be hydration engineers on the sideline.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
No excuse for it. We halfway competed against a few teams with a lot more bullets than us, the kids played hard in all but 2 games. Those were the only positives in Lebby and Staffs first year. He has got a lot to prove. It is make a bowl or beat ole miss. Neither happens its time to move onQuote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
We have no chance at 6 wins this season. 5 would be a pleasant surprise
Our roster is Bottom 4 in the SEC. It is what it is
He is going to get 3 years at least. Our Admin knows and understands where our funding is in football relative to other programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
If we go 5-7 with 4 non conf wins and one SEC win there is no chance we move on from him. Ole Miss doesnt matter. Need to look at this as 09 Dan year with how awful a position Keenum and Arnett left our program. If the guys play hard, you improve from prior year, and you can see an identity forming it is a solid year.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****