I'm curious if any of you statisticians can help me figure out our overall record with Jake G as hitting coach. Then it would be interesting to see his record with Lemonis vs without. It might be very telling.
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I'm curious if any of you statisticians can help me figure out our overall record with Jake G as hitting coach. Then it would be interesting to see his record with Lemonis vs without. It might be very telling.
Hopefully my math is correct....
As of right now, he is 319-192 overall. (2017-present)
with Lemonis 199-115 (2019, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25)
without 87-57 (2017,18,25)
His first season as an assistant was 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
We were 39-29 in 2018 and 15-15 in conference. We are 8-1 and 7-1 without Lemonis this year. So, 47-30 overall with Gautreau and without Lemonis.
I will say this, my daughter loved Jake with his recruitment of her son.
I thought he came on when Can came in... ill redo it...Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Jake isn't the problem, It's the lax approach bred here over the Lemonis years. He's a good hitting coach.
Cann hired him after the 2017 season was over. Will Coggin had Jake's position during the 2017 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
Well we've raked this year.
We're second in the league in hitting and top 4 in I believe HR and slugging. Kudos.
You are the man! I appreciate this so much. My point is that I think Jake has been good regardless of who is in leadership. It makes me wonder if he's not one of the better head coach candidates in the conferences in terms of assistance. He's been Great with our recruiting. I would rather hire him honestly as a head coach and some of the assistance that I've been named. He's earned his stripes in this league. He went to college World Series with Tulane and with us under two different administrations.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
He's not been that great a HS recruiter (not terrible either) but has found players in the portal. I thought he'd have gotten the Tulane job but we pay more I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Looking at Coach Waz?s history, he didn?t take his coaching staff from Purdue with him to Oregon. Instead, he hired assistants that either had ties to Oregon or the West Coast. I think he would strongly consider keeping both Parker and Gaut.
Or bringing in CogginQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I've noticed people stop making smartass comments about me talking about cold weatherQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I was really surprised that we didn't make Jake the interim coach. Basically it's a sign that the posts that be would rather keep Parker than Jake IMO.
The reality is Jake is way more qualified to be a head coach than Parker.
This the reason I brought it up. Jake as a HC with coggin as a hitting coach would workQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Coggin vs Gaut. Interesting debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
People would probably be surprised that in sec play we are hitting 40 points higher than UGA and slugging more.
Also better than Elander at Tennessee.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I am a Jake fan. I just like his steady Eddie attitude. I mean if you wanna step back and look from a thousand feet, this staff is taking care of business. Just hope we can get Frei and Fireman back soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
This staff isn't being fired because they were bad. It's because they weren't meeting expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydawg1
We're rebooting our program. We'll see if they get the right people in. I would be very surprised if anyone is back other than maybe Bobby Austin because we're going to be in need of analytics people.
Lemons- Fox were a plague and disease upon Mississippi State.
I thought Lem was an analytics person. I do not feel great about this coaching search. Slim pickings out there. For us to pull O'Conner from his very safe job in Virginny would be a feat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Ummm...seriously??Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydawg1
I resorted to name calling, my apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Maybe im not picking up on your sarcasm, I'm talking about the "I don't feel great about this coaching search part"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydawg1
No, I'm serioulsy not feeling good about the coaching search.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Lemonis was an analytics person. That's not what I was totally referring to as much as I was referring to making sure that we were maximizing our resources available and making sure that MSU is at the top of the SEC in terms of utilizing modern baseball technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydawg1
To sum it up- we were basically spinning our wheels with Lemonis and people were tired of it.
What I was referring to was our analytics department is going to be expanding. For example, Tennessee has a guy that does the analytics for pitching only. They also have someone that exclusively does hitting. We have one guy handling it all.
But it's much more than that- we're going to likely add a GM position that is going to focus on things like recruiting and the portal.
I think we're going to see former MSU players involved more in the program in terms of donations and things like that as well.
As far as equipment goes I think we need to increase what we have on the hitting side as far as tech goes to match what we have as far as pitching goes.
And I think we're also going to see some old school things- hopefully a coach that emphasizes baseball fundamentals as well.
I've heard people say that we are going to a more pro model and the thing about that is that is going to be a blend of analytics, biomechanics, and old school baseball fundamentals. That's one thing I hated about the movie Moneyball is it made it look like that people that adhered to old school baseball fundamentals and ideas were old relics and that none of their stuff worked. And that's not the truth. There are good things to take from everything and you have to put it together rather than go all in on one or the other. And that's what we're going to try to do.
I feel good about the search and where it is going. I think it will end better than when we hired Lemonis.
I am kinda digging this teams metrics. Knock the cover off the ball. We have had an entire week of practice, seeing terrible pitches and knowing what NOT to swing at. I think we will win a few in Hoover. We should be a solid 2 seed out West or a 3 seed closer to home. Hopefully Tallahasee. Todd, I hope all you said comes true. We deserve it.
BatnaQuote:
Originally Posted by Skydawg1
Best alternative to negotiated agreement...is you don't hire anybody. Just hire another top Pitching Coach and let Parker tend the bucket.
Tell Goat to go full gorilla like Elander and Coggin. Or hire an MiLB hitting coach,
Go hire a recruiter and 3rd base coach. Hype Guy.
Keep Goat as recruiting and portal scout.
Saves money
I don't see Gautreau taking a demotion with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
I have a feeling that he might end up at UL Monroe as their head coach who fired Mike Federico today. I'm not sure if they would pay him more than MSU or not- but maybe so. And even if not at least it's career upward mobility. Unless Tulane or Houston make a coaching change. I wouldn't rule out Texas Tech making a change either. Tadlock has had a really bad year.