Seems we will get a P5 HC for baseball. Plus he or they have been to CWS. We shall see. I?m good with ?he or they?.
It?s early and things could change.
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Seems we will get a P5 HC for baseball. Plus he or they have been to CWS. We shall see. I?m good with ?he or they?.
It?s early and things could change.
If it?s Butch Thompson I?d be happy
BOC, Butch, Tom Walter, Skip Johnson
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Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Current AI Predictions with Odds -
1️⃣ Butch Thompson – Auburn HC +355 Mississippi native, ex-MSU pitching coach, and the name almost every insider mentions first.
2️⃣ Brian O’Connor – Virginia HC +455 Reports say State is willing to spend; chatter he’s listening, even after a polite public “I’m happy here.”
3️⃣ Tom Walter – Wake Forest HC +615 ACC power-builder; multiple hot boards have him climbing fast this week.
4️⃣ Nick Mingione – Kentucky HC +900 Nine years on MSU’s staff, fresh off SEC Coach-of-the-Year honors; buyout is real but not prohibitive.
5️⃣ Skip Johnson – Oklahoma HC +1150 Has history with AD Zac Selmon; Sooners resources good but not SEC-level—watch leverage plays.
6️⃣ Wes Johnson – Georgia HC +1325 Early favorite slid after he publicly said, “I love Georgia,” yet insiders say door isn’t fully shut.
7️⃣ Will Coggin – Georgia Associate HC +1565 Starkville native, MSU alum, lauded recruiter; gets serious buzz if big-name targets pass.
8️⃣ Justin Parker – MSU interim HC +1900; a regional push could make “remove the interim” a real option.
9️⃣ Chris Pollard – Duke HC +1900 Built Duke from the basement; holds a master’s from MSU and keeps surfacing on every board.
10 Willie Bloomquist – Arizona State HC +3235 Name floated by 247Sports but little traction so far.
I'm obviously hoping for a BOC or a Bakich, but if I were a betting man, I'd lean towards Tom Walter.
Which isn't a bad hire. It's just not the grand slam some are hoping for.
Kinda funny that this is brought up. I was told a couple of hours ago by someone that I have talked to for awhile now that we got our guy lined up. Those were his words. I don’t know if that’s true but we will see.
I would not be mad about a lot guys on that list, but BOC would be a grand slam imo.
Id be thrilled with Butch
I've come around on Butch a lot. He makes sense here in a lot of ways. Only thing I don't like about Butch is the "WTF" years he has sprinkled in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
But he would do well here.
I'm sticking with my original prediction.
It's Butch.
basedog mentioned "he or they" - so that could mean Tom Walter with Corey Muscara agreed to come as PC. That would not be a bad pull.
I can't imagine WF lets Muscara walk without naming him the head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruz
One thing that is a fact, u don’t have to win your conference to win a Natty. Look at us and Ole Dixie, make a regional and get hot. If you make a super regional u got a 50% chance of going to CWS.
Maybe it?s just me but I?d be a bit underwhelmed with Walter. Quick Outside looking in glance, he hasn?t done much of note in his tenure there until Muscara showed up. Sure Muscara can come with him but what happens when Muscara leaves for a head coaching job himself? Then we are left with a guy who had made a regional in 2 out of 11 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruz
Walter is the only guy mentioned I would not want.
Butch would be a solid hire. But he is about to be 55 and to
Me it?s meh. Could we do worse? Absolutely
I?m hoping for a guy in his 40?s- the problem with that is that those guys don?t want to live in StarkVegas because of schools for their kids. It?s not a coincidence the 3 guys named in this thread are all in their 50?s. Older kids. Good strategy by the AD I guess
The thing about Butch is- and this is why he doesn't make sense to me IF this is true- he is very old school. Allegedly we are going to try to become more pro/modern with everything.
And that's part of the reason why I think Walter is being mentioned because Wake Forest has one of the best pitching labs/pitching coach/analytical team in the game but as others have said that is more Muscara and if we hire Walter I'm not sure that there is a guarantee that he would be coming with him and if he did come how long would he be here? That's a very legit concern.
That's also why I think Wes Johnson has been mentioned a lot because he is also very modern.
Guys like Brian O'Connor, Erik Bakich, and Pollard from Duke- if you hire one of them two of them are guys with Omaha experience and Pollard is a guy that has very little to work with at Duke and is an elite guy at identifying talent- those are guys that are probably going to feel like they entered the Death Star when they got here. I think that could be very appealing to one of them.
I don't think Skip Johnson is a real candidate personally. And actually Selmon being a Wake Forest alum might be why Walter is getting mentioned to a degree.
MSMS is moving to Starkville on campus. As far as schools go I'm not sure it would get much better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I am good with any of those on the list except Walter or ASU coach who I know nothing about and not sure where his name came from. Walter had a 1 year fluke trip to Omaha because of his pitching coach. This would be bad and really make me question Selmon. I think anyone else on the list would be solid though
As long as he went to the CWS as HC, and not the crap our media tried to salvage with Cohen's comments by saying Lemonis went multiple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
"He or They".... Basedog are you getting into pronouns these days ? ***
Edit: I hope it is not Walter. If so, then fine, but while we get to post our preferences, hoping for a few others on the list.
LOL, I think we have two that are highest on the list. I think so far, we have a good back up plan something Cohen never had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I'm with you on HC with CWS experience, to me that says a lot. I'm not worried about a Coach being in their 50's as long as they are driven and motivated. From what I read about Butch was interesting saying he is quite and nice but has a burning desire to win and is a good recruiter. Btw he has the potential number one draft for MLB on his team right now. I like the fact he knows the Sec and our tradition.
I really like BOC, but I'm not sold on him coming to Msu, But I would take him for sure with his experience, his CWS experience is another plus.
I also have grown on Wes Johnson, he has proven he can win.
Walters may be ok but he is way down my list.
One thing about Selmon, he keeps things out of the media for a reason. I don't think he is nearly as bad as many ED posters say. What I like about him he doesn't draw attention to himself.
P.S. 34 my man, being in your 50's is not old for a baseball coach. I'm in my 70's and that is the new 50's! Hell I rode my bike 34 miles the other day, LOL! Stay out of Wendy's and the bars and eat right, living in Small Towns is much safer than big cities!
We just fired a guy with CWS experience. It doesn't carry much weight for me.
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Yeah, Butch's age and a couple down years on his recent resume worries me. You can count on one hand the number of coaches who have had sustained success past their mid-50s in the modern era. Plus, everything has changed so much lately. How much is he going to want to embrace it all and keep evolving? Like everyone else, I want stability in the program. It's critical. Are we going to be doing this again in 5 years because Butch has had enough?
I'm torn, because Butch and BOC are among the best in the game NOW. It seems silly to not be excited about either of them possibly being the next coach. I just cant help but wonder where they are on the "give a crap" timeline plot.
Northeast MS is built different.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I like Butch, and why I would have no big issue with Coggin. Lots of people from that area are driven in life.
Basedog, did you ride 34 miles as a tribute to C34?Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Good pick up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I'd be thrilled with butch. if you've ever been in a room with him when he talks baseball that dude gets it and has a fire and the knowledge to go with it. i don't know him personally but have been around him several times and its no wonder he can recruit while at the same time isn't abrasive.
the "old school, can he adapt" concern may be a legit one BUT one thing to remember about that '13 team is how butch and cohen basically invented the "opener" role that then became the thing to do in pro ball. now, adapting game plans is different than adapting to NIL and the portal but he's shown he's not stuck in tradition and can't adjust in order to win.
there's also some other names on these lists i'd be highly interested in and think would be great hires...BOC, bakich, and even coggin would get me excited. but no doubt i'd take butch and run with it for the next 10 years.
I think that's what a lot of people don't know or understand about Butch. He's a Cohen protege' and we all know Cohen was the IB. I know Butch and he's one fierce competitor. He might not be a homerun hire but he'd be a triple IMO. He'd do well here with the support he would get.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
It would be nice to stick it to Cohen and make him have to hire another HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
LMBO, actually it was 34.2 miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
The elephant in the room I've never wanted to bring up. I'm not trying to step on toes, I'm sure Starkville High and Starkville Academy are fine schools, but most of these coaches are coming from locations that have legit, well known private schools and that's the type schools they are looking for. My boys attend a private school here in Memphis that have athletic facilities closer to college than high school. It's a big school with a large campus with everything you can possibly imagine. I'm not saying that to brag, we are beyond blessed that's where they attend but I imagine coaches who have money, are looking for that same type of education and facility for their children and unfortunately Starkville just doesn't offer that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Butch would be the normal MSU hire. Safe and with a MSU connection. I wouldn't hate it, but it wouldn't excite me either.
Base, did John Cohen say this again?*****. Seriously, hope this is true this time. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
A new nickname? Coach34.2? ***Quote:
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I inspire people. It's a giftQuote:
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Rosebowl has been holding firm that Butch is not a possibility. Assuming that comes from Cohen.
It's hard for me to see an SEC coach leaving to come to State but obviously anything can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
If we are indeed getting an experienced HC with CWS experience then to me that sings "disgruntled ACC coach" that sees the coming future of college baseball as very SEC heavy
It's still Pollard from Duke. All the rest of this is just smoke signals from the dangerous radical left media talking heads.
This is why Coggin does not bother me at all as a HC. He grew up wanting this, MSU baseball, and sees this job for what we see it also.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg