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I think Akron has more problems than just Moorhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatdog
Couldve had Leach 4 years earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by phatdog
Because we had an AD that always thought he was the smartest guy in the room but was really out of his depth.
In 2017 Moorhead was named the No. 1 rising assistant in college football by Sports Illustrated and Yahoo. A lot of people missed on that one. Turns out that Saquon guy makes playcallers look pretty good.
Raises hand. I was on board 110% but it didn't take until game 4 at UK for me to realize how bad it was and how wrong I was. Game 5 against UF just cemented it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
This is the answer. Most sports people thought we had made a great hire. Turned out horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
This is what people don't remember. ESPN, 247, Athlon, Bleacher Report, etc. all universally praised the Moorhead hire. Granted they also praised the Scott Frost and Chad Morris hires in the same cycle. That cycle just really sucked outside of Mullen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
Any of you guys stop to think all the sunshine pumpers on Moorhead were just basing the hire being a good one because it was for SEC bottom feeder MSU and their opinion that it was the best State could do? ALL YALL know the sports media has never thought very highly of State Football so probably any hire following the successful tenure of Mullen could be considered a good hire! Likewise, if State has hired a name coach who wasn't in his twilight, they would have called it a stepping stone job. And likewise, had State hired Art Briles to assist his son-in-law they would have burned us at the stake!
No. Moorhead was seen as can't miss and supposed to complement the team. He brought in a quality defensive staff that held together a national championship caliber team.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
If we just played every game like Auburn that year then we go 11-1 (maybe 12-0 if we still injure Tua against bama but that one ref was hellbent on screwing us) and are in the CFP. Probably lose to Clemson because they could compete with our defense (and ran the same scheme we did against bama in the natty). Moorhead, like Arnett, and Leach all chose to coach their way. Leach was the only one of the 3 we hired with the intention for him to do that.
Jeremy Pruitt was the top guy for 2018 coach candidates, today he is a PE teacher at a Junior High.
Reporters get the inside scoop in exchange for sunshine pumping for the admin. Coinz fell for the ring size BS bc he's smarter than everyone
What I heard was Cohen asked for advice from Stricklin on who to hire and he told Cohen that MSU hires rising assistants. So instead of going after people like Mike Leach we ended up with Moorhead.
When that failed miserably we went after established head coaches and had interest from people like Jeff Monken, Gene Chizik, Troy Calhoun and ended up getting Leach.
Our defense was elite but our offense was extremely one dimensional. Fitz struggled passing and our receivers were awful. Our o-line was average at best. That wasn't changing no matter who the coach was. If we had the portal culture we had now we might have been able to get some receivers and a QB to take us over the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Apparently Akron doesn’t have people taking test for their athletes as most do. You rarely ever see athletes suspended because of academics any more.
Franklin only allowed him to have 10 total play call options. Franklin determined those 10 plays too. not JoeQuote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
Moorhead tried to make Fitz do calculus instead of letting him rip lines and play like he was used to with simple reads and out-talenting people. Moorhead isn't a head coach, he's a wannabe NFL QB coach with his complexity. Auburn had a stout team that year and our line did just fine against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Go rewatch the Kentucky game. There's one set of downs in particular where our LT kept getting beat that was purely bad scheme against a top 5 pick. If we had Mullen as head coach and could still luck into Shoop not Grantham then we'd have threatened Clemson for the natty.
Cohen got taken on this hire. The minute you hear moorhead go into his coach speak jargon you should know what he is. It was evident extremely early on once he took the job....well before the started. Then watching him on the sideline and pre/post game it was so embarrassing.
Go to any high school coaching clinic in Mississippi and find the guys who were just hired for their first head job at any 4A or below and you will immediately recognize the traits and mindset that moorhead had and why he failed as an D1 head coach.
No they didn't, Sports Illustrated, who isn't even a real "sports" publication anymore that it was. Nobody even knew who he was outside a couple media people. It was Cohen doing Cohen shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Seen as Can't Miss by who? John Cohen? Mrs. Moorhead? His daughter? Come on man! I was at the airport when he got off the plane. When he asked the players their ring size, several of us started laughing. He just looked like a big goof ball and has proved he was what he looked like. At the Bin serving Smothered Fries to show he was a man of the people. I was sitting at the bar the night of his radio show where he told the fans to "kick rocks!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Media thought he was the perfect fit for a program like State. As simple as that! If he was all that, he would have had multiple opportunities to choose from and State would not have been the choice of a guy from the Northeast! As has been said, Jeremy Pruitt was to top assistant and rising star that year. Pruitt was awful, but was better than Moorhead! The one thing you can give Moorhead credit for: Ole Miss hiring Lane Kiffin because their admin was sick and tired of losing to State and being the second rate team in Mississippi. Ole Miss owes Moorhead a debt of gratitude. And they owe Cohen the same for hiring a guy that could do the one thing that mattered most to the Cigar boys: Beat Ole Miss! 1-11 would be a successful season for most of them as long as the 1 is Ole Miss! We have never had the money men who really wanted to win big! I'll take 10-2 six ways to Sunday if the 2 or to either Alabama or LSU or Texas and Ole Miss! 10-2 in the current environment will be playoff bound every year!
People aren't making that up, Athlon graded it the 6th best hire: https://athlonsports.com/college-foo...ach-hires-2018Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
"Mississippi State landed one of college football’s top offensive-minded coaches when Moorhead was picked to replace Dan Mullen in Starkville. Moorhead spent the last two seasons revitalizing Penn State’s offense as the team’s coordinator. After the Nittany Lions averaged only 23.2 points a game in 2015, Moorhead helped this unit average 37.6 per contest in ’16 and 41.1 this past season. Additionally, Penn State’s offense averaged 6.5 yards per play in both seasons under Moorhead and generated 45 plays of 40 yards or more during that span. Prior to calling the plays in Happy Valley, Moorhead posted four winning seasons (38-13) at Fordham and led the program to three FCS Playoff appearances. He also has stops on his resume from stints at Akron and UConn. Considering Mississippi State is the toughest job in the SEC West, hiring a coach with a background on offense and a strong reputation for innovative schemes and play designs is a home run. With Moorhead’s offense in place, the Bulldogs will provide a tough matchup each week in SEC play. And the Pittsburgh native is already off to a strong start, hiring a standout staff and putting the finishing touches on a good recruiting class. With several key pieces returning from a team that won nine games in 2017, Moorhead has an opportunity to start fast in his Mississippi State debut.
On paper Moorhead was a good match. It turned out he sucked. Both can be true.
This is going to be Joes 5th season at Akron. He has yet to post a winning record. He's a snake oil salesman. James Franklin figured it out pretty quick and had no problems pumping him up to get him out of Happy Valley. That offensive output those two years is more on Franklin and Saquon than Moorhead. I've already posted about my conversations with a Penn State alum.
The majority of my close friends are PSU fans or alum and they still jab me about this. Everyone except Cohen and Sports Writers with no real knowledge of football looking for a big story knew this hire was a disaster and our usual sunshine pumpers on here that will pump anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I serious doubt Dan would have done much to adjust for the left tackle getting his ass beat against Kentucky. Hevesy just would have cussed the guy out the whole time and that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Ole Miss was awful. I think Croom would have gone 2-0 against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
You can't talk about our people being obsessed when the literal reason why Luke was still there was because he "beat" us in 2017 with dirty play and officials that decided to look the other way all night.
Moorhead is like Bob Stitt. Innovative X's and O's coach but can't coach a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
LSU took Moorhead's RPO's and paired them with Sean Payton's offense and built a monster offense with their NFL talent.
That said, we would have been better off hiring Pruitt who would have had our defense playing at elite level. Guessing we would have had Tyson Helton as our OC which would have been 10x better than Moorhead.
Imagine if we had hired Klieman in 2018 when we had the chance. People probably would have said "but but he is coming from a lower division" but he won huge at NDSU and now typically has Kstate winning the Big 12 or playing in the title most years. I remember he came into Starkville in his first year with a bunch of 2 star players and coached circles around Moorhead and the guy was literally trying not to laugh.
Dan would have ran the ****ing QB up the middle instead of making him a dropback passer. Read the OLine blocking holes and QB draw it. That shit stops the speed off the edge and downhill dline running in a hurry. We played plenty of hellacious DL when Dan was coach. Never did we have a game like that Kentucky game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I'd say the 2014 Egg Bowl was similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
And that's the game I left Moorhead over. Early September in Mississippi and K State was knocking our dicks in the dirt on every play. Our guys were sucking wind after the first quarter and K State's players were barely sweating. They were so much more conditioned and better coached it was freaking comical. That's when I knew 100% that Moorhead had to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG