**** you Jeff Lebby and welcome to the hot seat dumbass.
It's stupid decisions like this that make us 2-10. **** Selmon for not forcing a change too.
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**** you Jeff Lebby and welcome to the hot seat dumbass.
It's stupid decisions like this that make us 2-10. **** Selmon for not forcing a change too.
And let me guess- we had to keep Hutzler to keep our JUCO class together to keep them from flipping to Troy. **** you Hutzler.
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RosebowlQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Not sure how I feel about this. Maybe we feel like we have a talent upgrade in line
I'd feel optimistic if not for the play calls/match-up choices throughout the season that were damning regardless of talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
So, what is the plan other than recruit a lot JUCOs?
Heavy in the portalQuote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Ladies and gentlemen, this roster just plain ol sucks. No DC worth a steaming pile is going to take our job for any amount of money. My opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Wow, I’m not sure I have seen Todd so upset before. If this is true, I hate the decision too.
The defense play calling improved. The talent remained the same.
I'm telling you guys, this is a win/win. Lebby just drew a line in the sand and if he's wrong, it makes firing him an easy choice. If he's right, we got ourselves a ball coach.
Lebby ain't cut out for this. We've got a year to find his replacement
So when he is wrong again I don't want to sit through it again for the third year in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
I said a couple of weeks ago if we don't make any coaching changes (DC being the obvious one) I think they know Lebby can't get it done and there's no point firing the DC when the whole staff will be let go a year from now.
I think he gets 3 years minimum, just bc we're so behind...who could we hire that would improve us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I still think it was a combination of bad luck, HC death, knee-jerk hire, a shit president, lack of AD leadership re NIL (i.e., Cohen), shit prez again!, and more bad luck which led us to where we are. I honestly don't think we're in a hole we can't dig out of.
Guys Lebby is getting MINIMUM 3 years barring a scandal. Our D will be better next year. We have close to 18 million dollars for NIL. Everyone needs to remain calm, wait 60-90 days, and see what we get out of the portal. I think you will like what we come up with. And yes, Hutzler is a big part of a few of those guys.
And I’m not going to! This really makes me angry. This is a statement that says this administration, coaches and university is really not going to compete in the SEC in football. Completely kills any enthusiasm for the fan base or typical MSU most will just shrug their shoulders and say it might work. And settle for mediocrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah I'm done with Lebby, no sense in even caring about football at MSU anymore when you won't fire the worst DC in the NCAA.
For those thinking it was ever an option for him leaving, from what I was told it was never on the table. I?m sure an atrocious egg bowl may have done it but that didn?t happen, so he?s here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If he keeps Hutler, then if we go 2-10 again, it's on Lebby. Or even 3-9.
If we do, I'd try to get Mullen back.
We don't "owe" 3 years or whatever. If we go 2 or 3 wins next year, get Mullen.
So this retaining of Hutzler we are supposed to forget/forgive that a mighty powerhouse of a football team called Toledo came in our house and hung 41 points on his defense. Really? Unbelievable
I am afraid this is becoming a Chad Morris situation each day. For as much flack as the defense gets, we need to get rid of Kennedy. The fact our OLine is this bad is inexcusable. That is just as big of an issue as defense and Hutz because the defensive talent is so bad
Give us some names or something so most of us can get off the ledge. We are ready to jump!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
This isn?t even close to the same situation, I know a parent of a kid that was in that locker room. It was totally toxic and both of his teams quit before the season ended. This team didn?t win but they never quit and played hard even when they were worn out.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
It’s nothing amazing. The mouthpieces are just pushing this narrative right now to get over the hump of upset fans over retaining Hutzler.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
Agree. Our OL needs vast improvement,
Go to the portal thread and you can start piecing it together. Not hard to follow on some. We will start to have some traffic this week on the portal front.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
It seemed Hutzler was training on the job. We went from awful to just bad at the end. He figured out a little but ........ Now we're stuck in not being able to attract a DC of note at this juncture. But it sure seems like we could upgrade right now; doesn't seem like it would take much.
Big bet by Lebby, he's pushing a big pile of chips to the center.
The defense will be better next year. Just don't know how much. The offense could be worse.
Well shit, it literally couldn't be worse
I expect our HC and DC to be better prepared mostly by having a year together. I’m betting we will have a few assitants gone.
Keeping a coach for recruits is extremely short sightedQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
That’s what we did with Arnett.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
Lebby has bet his house on black. Now we just gotta see if he wins.
Yall realize no decision has been announced right? I know it's cool to try to break a story but hell, at least wait until someone credible actually tells us about it. You ladies love to bitch
Your first two sentences are dead on. But that third...I mean, pot meet kettle...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I told y?all
I mean, his name is, cooter. LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell