No surprise here. But impressive portal haul for UT.
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No surprise here. But impressive portal haul for UT.
Tenn flat out raping Mississippi
Curious to see who they hire next June
but doesn't bianca have the 7th best portal class in the nation and 5th in the sec behind ark, lsu, UT and a&m?
Where we at on this list?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
There's really no list. It's all a guess. The one site everyone uses is pretty laughable with some of their ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Must mean State.....I mean Lemonis.... is in the bottom 6 then. Not that former Ole Miss players would transfer to State anyway. Who was the last Rebel to become a Dog? Chris Lotterhos?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Based on what? And has no returning players worth a crap to bootQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
The rankings are based a ton on numbers, and uga has a huge class. A lot of them w bad numbers at their previous spots
They have lost 2 of their best players to the portal. Something that has yet to happen to us thanks to Lemon/Staff/CharlieQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Nah, they've picked up 2 nice OF's. That's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
You can?t blame kids?Vitello matches the kids enthusiasm and is clearly a good coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If any of us were 19 and he showed interest, we?d go there immediately.
Someone will so no, or that they don?t like his antics. They probably didn?t like Cohen?s antics either?
He outworks other coaches and is great at developing relationships. That + their NIL budget makes him tough to beat. He's added arguably the best 2B, 3B and 1B in the portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
This cannot be argued with. Add great evaluator.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Last I remember that was similar was Cohen.
Great recruiter
Can outspend everyone
Great college town
Great facilities
Wonder why he is doing so well?
Somewhere between the "A" & "T".Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The only thing that might help the little guys now is limiting roster sizes.
Removing the "1 time instant transfer" rule would help smaller programs in all sports. Then they'd only have to worry about grad transfers leaving for NIL deals. I could also see some kind of contract situation where players get NIL but have a "buyout" if they want to leave early. That means other schools not only have to offer a better NIL to the player, but want that player enough to pay the buyout which the other school can use to Portal in a replacementQuote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
3 of the 4 are directly attributable to TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The recruiter.
They weren't spending money before him.
And their facilities sucked before him.
Point being, it's about having the right guy. If we hired TV in 2018 instead of Lemonis we'd be a powerhouse.
confucius nails it again....... excellent post
Bucketman vs. Rocketman at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I agree that he forced them to step up. But nothing I said was incorrect- all the points are true. Also- Tenn hired him a year before we hired Lemon. We had our own version of Vitello then before he self-imploded.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
And I'll remind you- They have the same number of Nattys
So much truth here. Cann was Vitello. They were a carbon copy of each other. We had our Vitello and the College Baseball world knew it. There was legitimate fear within college baseball when we hired Cann because everyone knew he was an ace recruiter and a motivator like none other. Cann keeping his head in the game and out of his phone may be the biggest what if in MSU baseball history. Right up there with Gene Morgan in 85.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I have been very critical of Lemonis, especially regarding his player development. However, C34 made a good point here. Theres no question that Lemon is a "players coach," and the guys seem to enjoy playing for him. The value of that can't be overstated in the current NIL/Transfer climate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The points are true because they hired TV. Without him, none of that exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He would have walked to Starkville for our job in 2018 when we hired Lemonis.
Now that said, I'm not anti Lemonis like many. He can still be very good to great here. But he's not dynamic like a TV.
That season before the wheels came off was pretty damn good. Cann had us like 9 outs away with a pitching staff about like we had in 22-23. That staff was the next man up all year.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We had MULTIPLE position players log innings pitching. Hell Cole Gordon started the year as our backup 1B and ended the year as our Saturday starter. Cann taught that team to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
I'm willing to bet they will bounce back a little better than we did though lol. The trajectories of each program post 1st baseball natty couldn't be more opposite but you play dumb to help your stance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
If you were running the program you'd just ride the '21 season into the sunset and be ok with that and tell fans that's all we deserve and to lower expectations.
Injuries killed 22. You’re just being a hardheaded ass if you can’t acknowledge that
23 we were a young team. Certainly blame Lemon for not getting a couple more portals to fill out the team. Because he didn’t- his job was on the line this season.
24- he responded and got us back on track. Parker did a good job but the guys being a year older was also a big deal.
25- better respond again
I mostly agree with this. 2022 was forgivable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
2023 was horrible job of running a program though.
2024 ok but we squandered a top 10 pitching staff.
2025 we better be in a super
How good was our haul in the year following our NC? LOL