I'd pitch Lo lefty 2-3 innings. I see no reason not to. We need this game and our mid week pitching scares me against any team with a pulse. Ain't going to hurt a thing.
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I'd pitch Lo lefty 2-3 innings. I see no reason not to. We need this game and our mid week pitching scares me against any team with a pulse. Ain't going to hurt a thing.
I like the idea of CJ pitching LH during midweek, develop his game. Should have been doing this all along. Not 70 to 100 pitches. But 1 or 2 innings when he is all RH in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
If this get's Pico's services to the weekend, that's a good thing.
Sticking to the script: Pico, Siary, Schulke, then Holcombe if we must, then Davis to close if it's close.
Informational: Ligon only pitched 1 inning this weekend. He was a starter at Miami, seem he could use more work. He pitched 1 inning vs. OM that should have been a Win.
Historical: Seems OM feasted on Shulke in Oxford. Holcombe was also dog meat in Oxford.
Pico hasn't shown he's ready for the weekend but damn, who has in that middle relief group? If you throw Siary and Pico that limits weekend times. This game doesn't set up well for us except OM pitching isn't good either.
Yea it will hurt a lot. First off, we're trying to get him out of pitching lefty unless the splits determine it. Secondly, he's not great from the left and we need to win this game from an RPI standpoint. This isn't some throwaway game against UNA where we can try dumb shit just for the sake of trying dumb shit. We need to go Pico for 3-4, Siary for 2-4, and then go Davis/Hardin/Ligon/Schuelke to close it out. Basically piecemeal the backend together with guys we can count on instead of Holcombe or Stevens or leaving Schuelke in there for longer than 2 battersQuote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Lo left is better than half of what we pitched midweek all year. Reason I mentioned it is we need to win this midweek. if anyone struggles, need to pull them before it is bases loaded and no outs. We took many losses with Holcome early year leaving too long. Lo can manage a few good innings left.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Coaches don't want to do that. They've weaned him off left for the most part because that will end when he gets to the next level. They want to refine the right and make it as elite as possible and IF there's a batter that struggles mightily with LHPs then we'll switch him. He's also never been primarily left. I do agree that we need to win and if anyone struggles we need to pull them.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Our pitching should be better than theirs. I would pitch Stevens, Ligon, Davis, and Hardin. Maybe Pico for an inning. Those 5 can get it done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yep, I doubt anybody goes more than 2 innings unless a lesser arm gets hotQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I agree, one time through the order at most and then bring someone else in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
No matter who we throw Id take him vs their midweek options.
Pico gets the start tomorrow night. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/SKh...ibextid=WC7FNe
The staff wants Pico to grab that last weekend spot going forward so we're going to continue working him towards that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintDawg
That's never going to happen. And I said that before his injury too. Plus, if Auger has another great outing that's settled really. Pico needs to work to be that Hooty change of pace type. Can start but can relieve. If he can give us 3 innings in relief that's big. Just not sure he can but OM will be a good look at him.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Lets hope we get a better Pico than last week. His command was terrible and had to groove to many pitches and got barrelled up . We were lucky we got him out before it got out of hand. He's got the potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I like what Auger has done so far. He's much more comfortable in the starting role it appears. If he pitches like the last couple of times out, he should be the third starter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Plus, they're in a worse position than we are in that they need their main pitchers for SEC wins just to make Hoover/Field of 64. I can't imagine they'll burn any guys Wednesday night that would be needed on Friday against Auburn.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I didn't say it was nor that it should. Just that the staff wants Pico to be a starter for us. Auger has sucked at closing, sucked at middle/long relief, but has looked pretty good starting. So I'm of the opinion that we need to leave him in the 3rd starter role until he can no longer do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Some guys just can't pitch in relief and some just can't start. Auger looks so much better starting than in relief.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
For one game- Pico, Ligon, Schuelke, Davis, and Hardin. That's what I'm rolling with.
Good point. If they could somehow sweep auburn or even win the series they would have some hope, so one would think they save all their bullets for this weekend, but who knows with little mike.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
I wouldn't let Schuekle pitch to their LH bats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think he wants to get in one more tournament and then ride off into the sunset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Mississippi still has a path to the NCAA's. But they have to sweep Auburn. Big game for both teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Here's a thought. If Auger is only going to pitch 65 pitches a game can we not use him tomorrow for like 30? He is a relief pitcher by trade.
Agree. Need to have Davis, Stevens, or Cheatham ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I wish Stevens was ready
No. This isn't Little League or 1984. We're not pitching a guy for 66 pitches on Saturday, 30 pitches on Wednesday, and then turning around and pitching him for 60-70 pitches on Saturday/Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Pretty sure we've thrown guys 20-30 midweek and then around at least 50 on the weekend before.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Actually pretty sure we did that with Nate Dohm some last year.
Just looked it up- we did indeed do that with Nate Dohm last year.
The same Nate Dohm who has arm issues right now? I think we need to pass on doing that. Also, Auger sucks in relief so if we're not going to start him then do not pitch him. Lastly, we aren't doing it so it doesn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah the guy that got arm issues one year after the data I provided and did so on multiple days of rest.**Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And by the way throwing Auger 65 pitches on tbe weekend and 30 pitches tomorrow is still under Dr Andrew's protocol by a full ten pitches for a week.
We've got a staff that won't pitch but one kid over 80 pitches for the weekend and you think we're going to pitch one over 110 pitches in a week.......not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
No. Not happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Schulke got shelled in Oxford. Not a competitive outing at all. Rest Schulke pitch left hand CJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
No and here is why almost nobody pitches more than once a weekend for us:Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Lemon's pitch to parents on the recruiting trail is that he is not going to overwork pitchers. Which makes sense after you look at our pitching decisions weekend after weekend- altho he must hate Cam Opener's parents pitching him every game
Our coaches not making decisions based on actual data doesn't shock me at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Also it looks like there is a decent chance of rain on Friday which could push things back a day as well.
Me, Ari Gold, and ISeenItDawg have been friends for 35 years and have a text group. We were losing our minds about bringing in Stevens instead of using Davis again after he only threw 25 or so pitches the day before. Now I understand why that decision was made. We simply are not going to use a guy B2B days except in rare circumstancesQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Right there with ya on not using Davis!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Or using Stevens instead of Hardin of game 2 against Ole Miss?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Frustrating!
Me three!Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I hate the ESPN app so much. It's hard to find games, it won't cut on to a game until it's literally starting that second, and if you're hanging on the "This Event Has Not Yet Started" screen, it doesn't cut on automatically - you have to back out and keep reloading until you get it.