There has been almost zero discussion about spring practices. Have the expectations gone down so low that the sport is a non-entity around here.
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There has been almost zero discussion about spring practices. Have the expectations gone down so low that the sport is a non-entity around here.
No, I expect to start a new 13-year bowl streak this fall.
No sir, not at all. I'm bullish, looking for 6-6 in 2024 and then improvement for there. I like the new coach.
I've never been into spring practice or recruiting, although I do understand how important both are.
Practice? Nothin to see there
Discuss something we can't go see and barely get any reports about??? That would be productive, fact based debate****
Not according to the over under thread. Every comment has us going over. Lot of optimism around here.
I am excited for Lebby, but more burned out on how the past staff was put on us with praise when we clearly could see the HC was over his head.
Ready for results.
Heck I'm excited about Coach Lebby and hopefully getting to watch a competent offense and a team that plays hard. Yeah I'm good
I love practice rumors but we got burned last year hearing about how good Barbays offense was looking. Likely the reason they were looking so good was because they were going against our defense.
Football is the only thing a give a shit about. That's why I don't partake in the baseball and basketball threads. Those sports just don't get me fired up like football. And honestly, I can only take so much heartbreak from one sport anyway.
I'm really looking forward to see what this team looks like year one of the Lebby Era. I'm not excited yet but I will be come August. If we can manage 6-6 and look good in most of the losses, I'll be happy for year one.
Yeah. Pretty much. We missed a huge opportunity with the start of NIL. Our fanbase is just not big enough to maintain the spending required to get the best when we play in the same conference as Oklahoma, Texas, LSU, Alabama, Georgia, and aTm. We are even further behind the curve now.
Thanks Joe Morehead.
Practice? We talking about practice? Not a game. Practice?
I am waiting to see what we look like on Sept. 21 against Florida. Toledo and ASU will definitely be challenging but we have better athletes at almost every position than those teams. Just like I said last year, if I have a comment on the offense before game 4 then that is not good.
I’m excited about Lebby. I’m hoping for 6-6 this season and getting better each year after
That. The best thing about him seems to be his tireless recruiting. HOWEVER, nobody wants to say it but I will, the one thing affecting many fans right now is Lane Kiffin. The dude can flat out do it and he’s at our rival school. He’s doing all the right things at OM and they are lapping us. It’s got a lot of fans discouraged. Again, nobody wants to say it but it’s def affected our fanbase’s excitement. We have to take our focus off of them and just focus on us. But it’s hard to do that when they are doing what they are doing at om.
There was a lot of agenda from certain people at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Toledo and ASU will be good measures for year one. I think we can out talent them. Now Florida could be that upset game that gets people talking. I'm not sold on Sunbelt Billy. He's a mediocre coach. Unfortunately, if we beat the breaks off Florida they may pull a Brinks truck up to Lebby's house at the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Agree- this is the huge game for usQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Sunbelt Billy is on the chopping block and has to beat us. Would rather play them later when things probably start going South for him.
That's exactly it.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
Lane is a good coach and we have accept that he may be there for a long time. Hopefully a desirable NFL job comes calling, I don't see him moving on to another college job. Hopefully their success will drive us to succeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
I do think Lane may be at a salary level now that only a Top 5 program would pay him to leave Ole Miss. There will be no more lateral moves or (downward moves if he gets caught in bed with a dead girl or live boy) so Lane may be in his Retirement Home.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Lame Kitten doesnt really bother me. He is doing a very good job there but most of my angst is about the rest of the SEC getting tougher and tougher. Bama/Georgia have been the dominant but Tenn is up as well. Add OU and Texas now. Freezus will make Auburn solid. A&M likely stays solid. SC likely stays solid. Mizzou is playing good ball.
It's getting harder and harder to stay in the middle
To OP, nope but not hearing much from spring.
Be something to talk about after spring game but even then only tempered. Question will be, boy O looked great or are we concerned about D or boy the D is gonna be better than we thought or is it O is learning a new system, etc. But I look more at personnel in spring vs O or D output. You can't hide individual talent but O and D statistics can be mileading.
I'm not sure if it's giving up but I just don't have the vested interest in it like I used to. NIL, etc. has just transformed the game into a product that a lot of people are just kinda getting fed up with and it's not just me, I hear this sentiment a lot.
Hail No! Win or lose, not until they remove my 45 year old cowbell that my late SuperDawg Dad had made for me from my cold, stiff hand to put in my maroon and white casket with me! BTW, read Lebby is keeping details from Spring practice close to the vest and I'm good with that. He has noted Spring Game will be 1's on 2's & 2's on 1's with special scoring systems. Sounds good to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
Do you suggest we focus more on Basketball and Baseball with our meager funding program because we don't have the funds to keep up in football. Just let football be a nice social event for fans to gather on game day and accept that 5-7 and 6-6 will be the norm going forward with an occasional bowl trip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Or wait for one of our supporters to win the $Billion lottery and donate half to MSU athletics?
Agree with this. It has affected my interest and care but I'm True Maroon and will always support my school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Same here gold.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I really dont know the answer. We have to keep trying in football because inevitably football is what pays alot of the bills. But its going to get tougher and tougher. With the talk yesterday of a new 80 team "Superconference"- we have to work to make sure we stay part of that. That's where the money will be. I like the 80 team Superconference idea and then hopefully NIL will transition into something that isnt gouging us- the everyday fanQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
No. You get a really good offensive coach who can get really good QB play. Any competent recruiting staff here can get enough athletes on defense to keep you competitive if you get the QB position right and a good offensive coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Fans typically aren't going to be fired up about "rebuilding" seasons coming off of a bad season.
Even if odds are we will be better.
The 80 team super conference stuff is just clickbait. It doesn't take much brain power to understand that the SEC and Big 10 run CFB. Neither are giving up any power. These two conferences will stay intact (and maybe add a highly derisible team or two like UNC or FSU). Other divisions/conferences will be part of it, but second tier. ND will likely stay independent, but have a voice at the table, they will likely continue to negotiate their own football media deal(s). Lower tier teams in the ACC/Big 12 should be concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yes. I'm with you on that. We need to stay in the Top group. I just don't want us to always be the whipping boy "Tied To The Whipping Post!" It just isn't fun to me to go watch us get pounded in to submission by the big boys even when we do win enough to make a small bowl. I will continue to travel to those bowls as long as state makes them because it is like a second vacation trip at Christmas time for us. But Competitive is not enough if State is still losing. I want to go watch State beat Arkansas, Missouri, Vandy, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, A&M, Kentucky, USCe, ole miss and Florida and occasionally Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama and Georgia!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I disagree. Some type of change is coming sooner rather than later. What's going on now is not sustainableQuote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Why bother? It's always wash, rinse & repeat. There was a time when I couldn't wait for the latest buzz from the board's insiders, but not so much now as apathy has set in, especially in today's college football world. 2014 was our only and greatest hope but we botched that one. Even if we had won a natty in 2014, we probably would have gone 4-8 or 3-9 the next couple of years after, that's the State way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
I don't understand this augment, CFB is more popular than ever. 2023 was likely the best season in history and 2024 will be even better. The 12 team playoff will be huge. CFB will get even more popular. The money will even out, eventually dollar figures will be assigned to positions, but like draft picks, small market teams will have to play money ball. We're not going to win a natty anyway but that doesn't mean we can't go 7-5/8-4 most years and challenge for a playoff berth periodically. There may not be 100+ teams trying to play big team football and there never should have been that many. It'll settle out at 60ish teams, the same teams that won in the past will continue to win. In person attendance will continue to trend down, but TV viewership will remain strong and increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I'm sure during integration folks were screaming, "CFB is dead!" There was an adjustment period, but the product was much better in the long run. Change comes to everything, it doesn't mean doom.
2023 was the best ever? What? I'm not saying change is all bad or good but that's a stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Eventually players are going to be paid by booster clubs through university's instead of by fans through collectives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
That's what our future Bulldog Club is going to be if I had to guess. Probably with Charlie Winfield managing it.
yeah not sure where that comes from. Attendance is down and other factors affecting it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Here is what I am talking about:
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/...l-super-league
When Presidents start supporting something- change is coming
Attendance means little, it's been trending down for a long time in many sports and will continue. Look at viewership it is up and will increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-r...d-season-ever/
I didn't see anyone from the SEC/Big 10 quoted, when powerbrokers from the Big 2 start chiming in, you'll know something is coming.
There are more and more entertainment options competing for our eyeballs, that CFB ratings remain strong is huge.
Attendance means little? Not sure that is correct. What kids want to play in empty stadiums?