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But by damn we are competitive. If that was the number six team in the country, I like where we are right now. We got to get fully healthy and get us a closer. We are closer than I expected we would be and this beats the hell out of of last year. At least they made a hit to win it and we didnt give it away, although you can?t grove a pitch to their best hitter in a chance for them to win it. And boy was it grooved. Just heartbreaking.
Yep agreed.
Tough tough lost. I just knew when we hit the first batter it wasn't gonna go our way. I'm betting most of us on ED had that thought. Pitching was good this weekend except for two 9th innings. Not sure we can solve this problem this year. We have two good starters and 3 or 4 good middle relievers but no closer which we haven't had since Sims went down two years ago.
All this is true. BUT, I put both losses this squarely on pitching DECISIONS!! Stayed with the lefthander way, way, way too long Friday night, and stayed with Siary way, way too long today. Their lineup had already seen him for corn's sake; time for a change in the 9th inning. And in any event, he should have been yanked when he hit the first batter. Just insane pitching decisions both Friday and today. If it's Lemonhead, then once again he's showing he's dumber than dirt. If it's the new pitching coach, then he ain't very smart either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
I'm venting somewhat here, but damn, this was a disappointing weekend for two out of three nights!!
I mean I get you want to change, but who are you going to go to? Hardin pitched last night. You had already burned Schuelke. Did you really want to run Auger or Davis out there again? So that leaves you, realistically, with Kohn, Black, possibly Stevens, Holcombe, Dotson, or Cheatham. I mean would you rather have seen any of those guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
After hit batter I would have gone to one of the lefty guys. Just my opinion. We had a few arms and I realize it's all a gamble but too late to over think now.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Stevens would have been a good choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I have disagreed with a couple pitching decisions myself. We have the benefit of hindsight but I also was bitching to myself when we made the change Friday night. We just got to get a little bit better and find a closer. We beat their best pitcher today and just gave it up at the end to their best hitter, who just so happens to be their best pitcher. Still can’t believe he grooved that pitch!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
My thought too. Just hope Friday wasn’t in his head, but if he had any nuts about him, he would want the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
How far we have fallen. Much better than last two years but MSSTATE baseball should never be satisfied with losing a series, especially one we should have swept
I doubt you want to run the guy who gave the up the walk off Friday night into another tight situation where the opportunity to give up a walk off again exists. If he gives up that homer you might as well sit him for the rest of the year. He would be done mentally. Again, I think people are just looking for someone to blame. We only gave up 4 hits the entire day. We lost because we walked 6 and hit 5. Siary and Schuelke both pitched out of jams and Ligon held his own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I totally agree with you, especially considering you're facing their best player who is a lefty. Left on left just made a lot of sense to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I disagree, I would put Steven's, we need help and we need to find out who has stones. Stevens seems to be a cool mature guy. Hell, it could not be any worse what happened!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
People were literally complaining about losing for the exact opposite reason Friday night. People complained the Shulk was dealing and taking him out cost us the game. Today Siary was dealing (did he hit a batter to start the 9th? yes, but had been solid otherwise) and you're complaining because we didn't pull him? Can't have it both ways. Don't forget we also had a chance to blow the doors open with bases loaded and instead flew out to end the inning (credit to the Florida player made a heck of diving playing)Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
Did pitching let us down in both games to get walked off in the 9th? Yes. But as far as pitching decisions go I don't have a problem with the moves we made and overall we pitched really well outside of the 8th inning on Friday that let Florida back in and gave them all the momentum. Too easy in hindsight to say what we should've done.
We hindsight a lot lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
I’m far from satisfied but trying to see the progress. We should have never fallen this low after a natty, but we have had a tough SEC schedule so far this year too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
I?m not pleased with what happened after 2021 but this team would beat the dog$hit out of last year?s team. If they can continue to play with the same effort and grit, it will come together for a host.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
You are 100% right about that! This years team has some stones.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
When did Bednar appear and when did Sims to appear in 2021?
Would be interesting to know. Maybe we have time for others to click.
Pulling Schuelke Friday night is one of the decisions I was referring to.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
Siary is not overpowering; UF had seen him through the lineup, so logic says it's time for a change.
Once Siary hit the first batter how can you not pull him?
And, how can you leave a right-handed Siary in to face UF's best hitter, who happens to hit left-handed?
These are 4 pitching decisions which can be legitimately debated!!
Landon appeared Game 1. Shut down Texas.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Bednar got injured and was out a few weeks but pitched really well on the road against LSU in the first SEC series.
Pre-game today, Lemonis bragged to an interviewer about having a lot left in the bull pen. He used 2, Two, TWO of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yes, but both really started dealing very late in the season. The Bednar of the CWS was nowhere to be found throughout the season. He was a good Saturday starter. In the CWS, he was an automatic win.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Sims was "allowed" to pitch 1-2 innings per weekend after that opening game against Texas. He hardly ever threw more than once per weekend during the regular season. As the season went on, he would throw 3 innings to close out a game.
There was some really good coaching in that 2021 season that won our Natty.
You got that right. The staff did an outstanding job handling the staff and game management that year.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Let me say this also. People who have played ball should understand it. I consistently hear about this player needs to show some stones, or this guy has big balls, or this guy needs to nut up. It’s different sophomoric sayings for a player “getting it done”. But don’t ever forget than in athletics, the other guy always has a say-so. Sometimes a pitcher is confident, locked-in, and throws the perfect pitch, but the hitter hits the crap out of it. So it’s not a lack of testicular fortitude. Other times a pitcher is scared to death, timid, and throws a crappy pitch, only to watch the batter whiff. Then everyone talks about how he nutted up. The opponent always gets a say-so. It’s what makes the three major sports so great. In golf, it’s just you and the ball, club, and course.
Man I wished more people understood this. Nobody wanted it more than me but that "want to" would've not helped me one bit against NolanQuote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
Ryan. These kids are out there giving everything they've got and for people to say they don't have stones or are soft is ridiculous and a cop out. These kids put in hours of hours of work before most of us get up in the morning and late after classes. If you've been to this level you know what I'm talking about. I love this post and thank you for posting this!
ETA: example from today. Bryce Chance smokes a ball that probably would've been a game winner but the other guy makes a highlight play. So did chance lacks stones there because he made an out with runners on? Heck no!
My definition of "stones" is he is tuff. Nut up to me is tough or toughness. I don't think of it being negative. But I do see athletes who are soft.
I would have put a left handed pitcher in the ninth to face Fl left handed slugger and told our pitcher to "nut up and let everyone know you got stones"! LOL
I said it last night. At this point we need to mix and match to close games because we don't have a closer. If we have to use multiple pitchers to close do it. Yeah I would've brought in a lefty and then a righty to face the next hitters and go left right if I had to. We need a closer bad it's the missing piece. Last 3 outs are the toughest in baseball and why closers make so much money!Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I figured you would go left to left, right to right. After the hit batter to start the ninth, I think it made him anxious. I would have loved to see our freshman Stevens, I just like what I’ve seen of him. Yes he struggled Friday but I just think he can handle pressure. He just needs to pitch to gain experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Understood. And I don’t disagree. But the pitcher could have done that very thing and still gotten hit. He could have nutted up, let everyone know he has stones, and still gotten hit. Because the batter gets a say-so.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I agree that toughness is good. It’s not negative. But toughness doesn’t guarantee success. And failure doesn’t necessarily mean you were soft. Toughness does greatly improve your chances for success.
Yeah I go lefty on cag and throw nothing but sliders and that's stevens best pitch. Then go to a righty after him.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Baseball is just so different. Pitcher/hitter with it on the line, there's just nothing else like it in sports imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
No doubt, it goes both ways. I didn’t question our pitcher in the ninth. He just made a mistake pitch, I would have changed pitchers after hit batsman.Quote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
I agree with you 100%. Base you know the game well and you know baseball is the most second guessed, hindsighted game there is, which ironically is what makes it specialQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
In general I would agree, however last year?s team was soft as a kitten. They had no heart and no obvious leadership group. Could?ve been youth/maturity because this team has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
2022 was similar but gloating when some had no business gloating.
Take him out, leave him in, LOL. 24 I never coached baseball, my Dad coached little league and what was call Dixie seniors for over 20 years. He was a fundamentalist, throw strikes don’t walk them, and don’t stand out the plate and take strike 3. He won lots of championships,LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
We need to get together and go to a game. I have connections to great seats.
Man I'd love that! Just say when.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I can agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Ok. You can drive up to Brandon and ride with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Cool with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog