Is is to be blamed on the idiot umpire for missing an OBVIOUS strike 3 call. And on the coaches for having our ace throw 103 pitches up 4 against freaking Evansville. Ridiculous
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Is is to be blamed on the idiot umpire for missing an OBVIOUS strike 3 call. And on the coaches for having our ace throw 103 pitches up 4 against freaking Evansville. Ridiculous
Not mad about 103 pitches. It was his last hitter either way. If he's hurt, just bad luck... pitchers get hurt
103 pitches is nothing. Geez. He was saying I'm good as he walked off and gave thumbs up. Besides if it's a ucl that's a cumulative type injury.
103 pitches on a cool night early in season is def something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Its his 4th start. 100 pitches is a requirement now for your Friday guy.
I was for Fall baseball when my boys were playing but I am now against it especially for under 13 pitchers. If you are going to have fall baseball for youth, use a dang pitching machine 7-12 so that the hitters get the extra at bats without taxing the young arms.. it could easily be done. And the coaches can set it to throw nothing but strikes so they gotta get the swings in.
I have a younger grandson ( another daughter, I have 3 daughters) who has some elbow issues. Plays 12 months, just turned 15. Doctor shook his head when he told him he plays on two teams. Told him young kids need to take off 3 to 4 months. Too much baseball. Just saying and too each their own.
Btw, no one wanted to tell me what Doctor said, LOL.
Hmm depends, not all pitchers made the same in mechanics, strength and stamina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Exactly. But that’s too logical for some on this page.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
If you are the #1 guy? Yeah its expected to eat innings and get that 100. The standard used to be 130. Its been lowered. If you cant go 100 pitches- you arent the top guy or even in the wrong roleQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I agree that 100 pitches doesn't seem like too many when you are only pitching once every seven days.
No it's not. It's not the pitch count. Geez come on yall. If it's ucl it's gonna happen sooner or later. It's a cumulative injury not a threw one pitch and it's gone thing. This is something I know quite a bit about. Dr Andrews is a client of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
If he has a bad injury it would have happened tomorrow. He might be done. He might not be. Had the same thing last year. I'll wait and seeQuote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
WhateverQuote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
You can say this all you want. And be right. And you are, and somebody is gonna say nah.... smhQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
If it's a ucl and we had stopped him at 90. He would have popped it in the pen next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
Lemon really downplaying the dohm injury in press conference. Calling it a zinger. And says if he’s not going to act like it’s a big deal, I’m not either.
100%! And I might add it's not like Lemonis has abused Dohm. He hasn't ridden him like a rented mule. His pitch counts have been managed well. It's called life as a pitcher that throws mid 90sQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
THISQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
UCL is a fraying of the ligament injury- not a popping at once suddenly.
Hope he's fine, but injuries happen. This isn't football where you pull the starters in a blowout.
We've been lucky so far to not have any pitcher injuries. Eventually the luck will run out, no coach should get the blame for it unless it's a truly ridiculous situation like throwing a reliever the day after they threw 50. 103 pitches on a reasonably warm night after a several starts ain't it
He's probably fine.
I wouldn't say we are lucky. Loftin and Ligon definitely aren't right and Simmoms may never pitch again.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
At least 2 other people on here get it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Make that three! (Raises hand)Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
UCL injuries are not like car accidents where you get into one and you break a bunch of bones and have trauma which were obviously caused by a car accident. It's a repetitive motion injury that comes from throwing hard since childhood. God didn't make us to be able to throw a baseball 100 MPH.
If he's out we're probably going to have to put Siary in the rotation. But I'd be fine rolling the dice on Nolan Stevens or Luke Dotson. Holcombe struggling is really hurting us right now. I'm guessing we'll see Loftin pitch some in Biloxi but we'll see. Ligon looks better to me than Holcombe did but he has to be able to get more than two batters out to pitch in the rotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Also happened to Tink Hence for the Cardinals in the minors and Loo a few weeks ago. And all were OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Siary isn't a rotation guy. He can help us but not as a starter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I agree. But what other choice do we have right now? The longest Stevens has gone is what? 2-3 innings? And Dotson has only been throwing 1 maybe 2 innings at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
So any way we do it we're essentially looking at an opener situation. Which we could probably pull off with our bullpen.
Right on, Todd! So many people think it just all of a sudden pops but that's not the way it works. It's like stretching a rubber band over and over and over til it finally snaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah it's because you hear about Kirk Presley throwing 150 pitches in the state championship game in high school or something and then he has a UCL tear and then people point back to that one moment to explain it. Not that I would recommend throwing that many pitches but it's not likely that ONE game that did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
A rubber band is a good way to put it. Ligaments don't have a ton of elasticity in them. And then in the elbow they're relatively small. But that's where a lot of the stress goes.
What ever happened to Presley? Haven't heard that name in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Dohm isn't hurt
I know he was the GM of the Tupelo American Legion team last I heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
He's still in the Tupelo area. Does a lot of private lessons, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Why is Simmons still on the roster? He is taking up a roster spot of someone that may could have helped.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
It’s amazing. I didn’t realize that ucl was the only injury the arm can sustain. Thanks for notifying us though. Geez. Show me anywhere where I even said anything about a ucl injury?
Some just don’t like to be wrong. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
He was expected to pitch this season but had a set back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked